Nice to see Ezekiel come out in Sam and that he can still kick ass even though he was hurt during the fall.
And I think Abaddon just talks big. She says how everyone will bow to her including the angels but she gets the fuck outta there at the sight of Ezekiel
The hunter that got shot and killed got forgotten pretty quick.
They definitely want people to believe that it's Lucifer, they didn't refer to him in this episode for nothing. Fans were already speculating and they are smart enough to play into that. Not saying Zeke isn't Zeke or he won't do something that goes against the brothers for Heaven but I for one don't believe he's the big red cheese.
Enjoyed the episode, it feels like they got direction and they know where they are going with the show. That makes me happy.
As for Abaddon, chances are she hasn't danced with any angels yet. Remember before they were common, demons feared the angels, she might have some of that fear where she hasn't dealt with them yet. Give her time and it will be Tuesday to her.
They definitely want people to believe that it's Lucifer, they didn't refer to him in this episode for nothing. Fans were already speculating and they are smart enough to play into that. Not saying Zeke isn't Zeke or he won't do something that goes against the brothers for Heaven but I for one don't believe he's the big red cheese.
Enjoyed the episode, it feels like they got direction and they know where they are going with the show. That makes me happy.
As for Abaddon, chances are she hasn't danced with any angels yet. Remember before they were common, demons feared the angels, she might have some of that fear where she hasn't dealt with them yet. Give her time and it will be Tuesday to her.
Writing my DeanXAbaddon flic now.
Good ep, I enjoyed it a lot, but wow the entire spiel from Zeke about love and family and how Dean would do anything for his brother, followed by Sam's confession at the end. And then the reference to Lucifer no less. I'm getting a serious vibe here that Zeke would do anything for his brother too, and we all know that Lucifer is one of Zeke's brothers. Maybe he was just trying to justify what he is going to do with Sam down the road?
Plus the whole Crowley & Kevin stuff finally happened, they needed to take care of that a bit. And the brothers calling in to Kevin back at the bunker for intel and help, I'm sensing a real "Return of the Men of Letters" feel going on here. There is so much more to the bunker that I'm sure they are going to explore this year.
I'm seriously excited for where this season is headed.
Plus the whole Crowley & Kevin stuff finally happened, they needed to take care of that a bit. And the brothers calling in to Kevin back at the bunker for intel and help, I'm sensing a real "Return of the Men of Letters" feel going on here. There is so much more to the bunker that I'm sure they are going to explore this year.
I'm seriously excited for where this season is headed.
Seriously the new title sequence is the best one since season 2.
Olivia Ryan Stern (Tracy) better come back for a few episodes.
Pls don't tell me crowley is going to be part of the team lol
The fanfic just writes itself these days.
Also it never ceases to amaze me how Dean keeps up with pop culture.
Also it never ceases to amaze me how Dean keeps up with pop culture.
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Jared padalecki tweeted this regarding midseason finale:
I'm pretty excited! :)We're filming our mid-season cliffhanger episode right now. And, I gotta admit, it's AWESOME!!
So a good friend of mine finally started watching SPN and she's hooked. This past week they kept advertising one of the conventions that Creation entertainment runs is going to be in the D.C. area. Great timing, because now my friend has decided to come visit next year and we're both going to go. I would have gone by myself but now I'm going to have twice as much fun. We split the cost of the Jensen/Jared photo op since they'll let two people in one photo with them. Pass me the smelling salts!
I'm really looking forward to the next episode about Human Cas. I have a feeling it's going to be fantastic.
I'm really looking forward to the next episode about Human Cas. I have a feeling it's going to be fantastic.
I own all 8 seasons + the animation on Blu-Ray but I feel as if lately the show has gotten really safe and predictable. Possibly even more so then the Sera Gamble years. I recently caught up on season eight and watched the first two episodes of season 9 and I feel like the show actually kind of boring now.
A few things I'd like to see happen in season nine that could personally help my interest in the show (some minor spoilers):
1. On of the highlights of season eight was the Men of Letters introduction. Really enjoyed that story and the discovery of the bunker. Really wish they would dive in and expand on the Men of Letters mythology more though. They only slightly touched on it in season eight.
2. Crowley has been the big bad for quite some time and I have grown kind of tired of this. Love the character and love the humor he brings to the table but I would like them to take the character into a new direction. He's currently locked up in the Men of Letters bunker. I hope the writers don't get lazy and just have him escape and once again retain his role as the king of Hell. Instead and some may disagree. I think IF WRITTEN PROPERLY they could have the boys help reform Crowley into a functioning member of the team. Perhaps have them find or make a Demonic Bracelet or something that keeps Crowley at bay and they take them with on missions as requested by Crowley and eventually the brothers work on reforming him into a hunter. I think it could work but would take some time and is something that should not be rushed. Keep Crowley as a jackass and not change his entire character but have him start to show a human side now that he's been introduced to Sam's apparently righteous (no-longer infected with demon blood), blood. lol I could go on an explain how they could write the reforming of his character but I won't.
3. Finally I would like to see them form a sort of Justice League of hunters. Obviously I'm more or less talking about a larger group using the Men of Letters bunker as their base of opporation. Could consist of: Sam, Dean, Castiel, Kevin, Garth, Charlie and Crowley. This would be awesome. Crowley would certainly bring his charm to the table, always insulting the boys and what not.
There is a lot they could do to make Supernatural feel less boring and safe. I also don't like to apparently obvious Ezikel or however you spell it, is evil and working with Metatron ark they got going on or so it seems so far. To predictable to the point where I sighed during the episode.
So what do you guys think? Like my ideas? Dislike them, what would you guys like to see?
A few things I'd like to see happen in season nine that could personally help my interest in the show (some minor spoilers):
1. On of the highlights of season eight was the Men of Letters introduction. Really enjoyed that story and the discovery of the bunker. Really wish they would dive in and expand on the Men of Letters mythology more though. They only slightly touched on it in season eight.
2. Crowley has been the big bad for quite some time and I have grown kind of tired of this. Love the character and love the humor he brings to the table but I would like them to take the character into a new direction. He's currently locked up in the Men of Letters bunker. I hope the writers don't get lazy and just have him escape and once again retain his role as the king of Hell. Instead and some may disagree. I think IF WRITTEN PROPERLY they could have the boys help reform Crowley into a functioning member of the team. Perhaps have them find or make a Demonic Bracelet or something that keeps Crowley at bay and they take them with on missions as requested by Crowley and eventually the brothers work on reforming him into a hunter. I think it could work but would take some time and is something that should not be rushed. Keep Crowley as a jackass and not change his entire character but have him start to show a human side now that he's been introduced to Sam's apparently righteous (no-longer infected with demon blood), blood. lol I could go on an explain how they could write the reforming of his character but I won't.
3. Finally I would like to see them form a sort of Justice League of hunters. Obviously I'm more or less talking about a larger group using the Men of Letters bunker as their base of opporation. Could consist of: Sam, Dean, Castiel, Kevin, Garth, Charlie and Crowley. This would be awesome. Crowley would certainly bring his charm to the table, always insulting the boys and what not.
There is a lot they could do to make Supernatural feel less boring and safe. I also don't like to apparently obvious Ezikel or however you spell it, is evil and working with Metatron ark they got going on or so it seems so far. To predictable to the point where I sighed during the episode.
So what do you guys think? Like my ideas? Dislike them, what would you guys like to see?
I'm also disappointed that they killed Meg off in a rather quick disappointing scene with no plan to bring her back according to Jeremy Carver. I always wanted to see the brothers work with her more, part of the team more.
Ally of convenience, nothing more. If you don't remember she was responsible for Ellen and Jo sacrificing themselves so the boys could try and kill Lucifer. That act alone would put her on the "gank when usefulness ceases" list.I'm also disappointed that they killed Meg off in a rather quick disappointing scene with no plan to bring her back according to Jeremy Carver. I always wanted to see the brothers work with her more, part of the team more.
Yeah I suppose you're right. I actually forgot about that.
Exactly. Which is why I find it odd that so many people are sad she's dead. She's had it coming for a long ass time.Originally Posted by Remmy2112
Ally of convenience, nothing more. If you don't remember she was responsible for Ellen and Jo sacrificing themselves so the boys could try and kill Lucifer. That act alone would put her on the "gank when usefulness ceases" list.
Still think it would be a funny twist if Crowley eventually joined the boys. Keep him a demon and an asshole but human enough to be able to actually be on Sam and Deans side.
So I think I know what the season nine major plot points will be. Just me speculating but highlight if you want to see:
Ezekiel is working for Metatron to amass a large army of angels. However eventually Ezekiel kills Metatron and eventually becomes the leader of the angel army himself and also the big bad for this season. Possibly wanting to take over Earth and Hell (and heck maybe even Purgatory because why not?). Crowley doesn't want this and eventually agrees to works with Sam and Dean to stop Ezekiel and the army he's building.
So what do you guys think? Am I on to something here or will I be totally wrong? To me it seems like this will be another predictable season but I am actually hoping to be wrong.
Ezekiel is working for Metatron to amass a large army of angels. However eventually Ezekiel kills Metatron and eventually becomes the leader of the angel army himself and also the big bad for this season. Possibly wanting to take over Earth and Hell (and heck maybe even Purgatory because why not?). Crowley doesn't want this and eventually agrees to works with Sam and Dean to stop Ezekiel and the army he's building.
So what do you guys think? Am I on to something here or will I be totally wrong? To me it seems like this will be another predictable season but I am actually hoping to be wrong.
She had hilarious chemistry with Castiel.Exactly. Which is why I find it odd that so many people are sad she's dead. She's had it coming for a long ass time.
Honestly, feels too predictable.So I think I know what the season nine major plot points will be. Just me speculating but highlight if you want to see:
Ezekiel is working for Metatron to amass a large army of angels. However eventually Ezekiel kills Metatron and eventually becomes the leader of the angel army himself and also the big bad for this season. Possibly wanting to take over Earth and Hell (and heck maybe even Purgatory because why not?). Crowley doesn't want this and eventually agrees to works with Sam and Dean to stop Ezekiel and the army he's building.
So what do you guys think? Am I on to something here or will I be totally wrong? To me it seems like this will be another predictable season but I am actually hoping to be wrong.
I just hope they don't bring the Lucifer character back into this.
Meg made a great Frenemy for the Winchester bros though. Always just useful enough to keep around, but never close enough to be an actual friend. I thought especially with her interactions with Cas that keeping her would have been a good idea.Exactly. Which is why I find it odd that so many people are sad she's dead. She's had it coming for a long ass time.
I suspect part of getting rid of her was not wanting to find a third (fourth?) actress for her though, after Rachel Miner's MS diagnosis. :(
OK, that's a good reason. I can understand it. :(Originally Posted by AbsolutBro
Meg made a great Frenemy for the Winchester bros though. Always just useful enough to keep around, but never close enough to be an actual friend. I thought especially with her interactions with Cas that keeping her would have been a good idea.
I suspect part of getting rid of her was not wanting to find a third (fourth?) actress for her though, after Rachel Miner's MS diagnosis. :(
I am going to miss Meg, if only because she's another in a long line of characters on this show who never really got what they wanted before they died. The saddest part is she didn't really want all that much compared to everyone else.
Please don't kill Cas's new friend. Please.
Edit: she's dead meat now. The fan girls will not stand for a nice girl.
Edit: she's dead meat now. The fan girls will not stand for a nice girl.
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Bringing in a homeless guy who may or may not have killed someone, and then sleeping with them, doesn't seem like the best idea.
Oh a setup, that's less weird.
Oh a setup, that's less weird.
Alright. She lied to and used Cas. Not cool.
Wtf at that preview? Lol.
Yea, somethings up. Theres no reason why Ezekial wouldnt reveal himself to Cas and doesnt want him around.
I was hoping that for once the bad guy wouldn't, you know, actually be so obvious. Like with Loki/Gabriel he had a delicious arc, I want more of that and less Sam/Dean doing something really, really stupid for all the right reasons and giving the bad guy an open door. Also, I'm totally on team #MakeCrowleyAnAntiHero, too much character to waste letting him go darkside again. Wit, redemption, skullduggery and someone on team Winchester willing to do awful things to win, that arc would hit all the right notes. He would make the most hilarious hunter and Mark Sheppard does a phenomenal job with that role.
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Yeah, that chick banging a bloody, homeless dude was a dead giveaway.
Damn, I didn't like the ending to this ep at all. It felt like the show was finally at a good place with all of the characters in one spot now. How cool would it be to have Sam, Dean, human Cas, and Kevin running around the bunker together, and with Crowley tied up in the closet to boot. All of them in one spot would be serious gold. But the last two minutes totally ruined that.
Did anyone else like sweet April? I thought the actress did that well, of course being female and banging a character means you die.
So what's Zek hiding, why would he not reveal who he is to Cas? What is he so afraid of from the other angels. Yeah, definitely a tip away something ain't right there.
While I enjoyed the Castiel segments the other parts especially with the angels were horribly written, it really felt like they were basically talking to the viewer to keep us updated and it was painful.
And did Cas get his heart broken or what.
Also angel blade....the ultimate protection.
So what's Zek hiding, why would he not reveal who he is to Cas? What is he so afraid of from the other angels. Yeah, definitely a tip away something ain't right there.
While I enjoyed the Castiel segments the other parts especially with the angels were horribly written, it really felt like they were basically talking to the viewer to keep us updated and it was painful.
And did Cas get his heart broken or what.
Also angel blade....the ultimate protection.
That ending... omg.
Yep, looks like the 2014 bit is coming true.
Oh god, Cas' face, you could see his heart breaking. Deeeeeaaaannnn smell the bullshit, it's right there! Ugh.
Dean won't kick Cas out next episode. He can't. He just got the band back together.
They could know that we know and already accounted for it....
God damn it Lucifer. God damn it.
Could just be a feint and Zeke just doesn't want to be found, but his little "kick cas out or I leave Sam to die" just makes me think "Uh oh."
edit: Also perfect usage of that gif.
Could be cool but I'm not sure they could afford to do the end times on a Supernatural budget. Not for more then a single episode at least. I guess I could see why you believe in your theory though.Originally Posted by Thunder Monkey
Season ends in 2014. Sam is currently possessed by a fallen angel. A fallen angel that hasn't let another see him. Cas is human and just got his first taste of sex.
We coming up to orgies and end times!
To add to it, angels and demons are both amassing an army on Earth. So I don't know, maybe? Then again didn't the future Supernatural end times sequence start in 2012. I remember a news paper blowing in the wind listing Sarah Palin as president. Thought it said 2012 on it.
Have to say I'm pleasantly surprised at the quality of the last two seasons. That leviathan crap was......crap.
Dean and Sam made different decisions along the way though. By sending Lucy and Michael to the pit, they averted that initial timeline. It just seems like it's in a round-a-bout way coming back to that timeline.Could be cool but I'm not sure they could afford to do the end times on a Supernatural budget. Not for more then a single episode at least. I guess I could see why you believe in your theory though.
To add to it, angels and demons are both amassing an army on Earth. So I don't know, maybe? Then again didn't the future Supernatural end times sequence start in 2012. I remember a news paper blowing in the wind listing Sarah Palin as president. Thought it said 2012 on it.
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