I don't know exactly how they could have done the same concept with a better design, but I'm pretty sure they could.
In general the more mundane designs (Mako, her brother, her family) stick out in how tidy and clean they are compared to the student council guys who are so full of props it risks becoming overwhelming. Sushio's artstyle saves the show, but I dunno how it'll look when a lesser artist takes on animation directing.
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or clothed?
Fuck it. Give me tits and ass. I like current. No Shame.
I like this show. I need to watch Gurren Laggen... Loafing...
This anime seems to be a gif goldmine too
See how much better that looks....but Gainax gunna appease to "that" crowd that apparently enjoy seeing the tits and ass of a schoolgirl. I never understood why fan service is always perverted.Place your votes:
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It's just part of the culture, man. Japanese is a perverted place.Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis
See how much better that looks....but Gainax gunna appease to "that" crowd that apparently enjoy seeing the tits and ass of a schoolgirl. I never understood why fan service is always perverted.
Also, doesn't her armor upgrade over time? Maybe? Gotta start at the bottom, like my man Drake always says.
Gainax made not this but Gurren Lagann, which was far worse towards its female characters. They're really the worst thing about that show by a mile, from design (Yoko) or personality (Nia UGH) standpoints both.Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis
See how much better that looks....but Gainax gunna appease to "that" crowd that apparently enjoy seeing the tits and ass of a schoolgirl. I never understood why fan service is always perverted.
Lambtron summed up much better than I could how I think the fanservice angle was approached in this episode, as well as why it didn't bother me the way it normally would:
So okay I'm really, really sensitive to fanservice for fanservice's sake for the most part but I am totally down with the Senkotsu design now that I've seen it in the context of the show. Soooo much of the show is taking the piss out of exploitation tropes and it's very clearly very intentional.
During the fight with Fukuroda once she's revealed, Ryuko is embarrassed by the Senkotsu. Instead of focusing on the fight Fukuroda starts creeping on Ryuko because of Senkotsu, which makes her upset. When he tries to attack her, it doesn't matter that like 10% of her body is covered, she's completely protected. On the other hand the Goku uniforms are like full body suits from neck to ankle. It's a total send up of the absurdity of the awful armor women wear in dozens of other exploitation films/anime.
There's a hell of a lot more thought to this than wank material for virgin otaku. Sexiness isn't an inherently bad thing; and I think using it in a subversive way like this is pretty god damn brilliant.
This is pretty well thought out.Just finished episode one. That fucking ruled.
So okay I'm really, really sensitive to fanservice for fanservice's sake for the most part but I am totally down with the Senkotsu design now that I've seen it in the context of the show. Soooo much of the show is taking the piss out of exploitation tropes and it's very clearly very intentional.
During the fight with Fukuroda once she's revealed, Ryuko is embarrassed by the Senkotsu. Instead of focusing on the fight Fukuroda starts creeping on Ryuko because of Senkotsu, which makes her upset. When he tries to attack her, it doesn't matter that like 10% of her body is covered, she's completely protected. On the other hand the Goku uniforms are like full body suits from neck to ankle. It's a total send up of the absurdity of the awful armor women wear in dozens of other exploitation films/anime.
There's a hell of a lot more thought to this than wank material for virgin otaku. Sexiness isn't an inherently bad thing; and I think using it in a subversive way like this is pretty god damn brilliant.
I don't know how I'm going to manage to wait weekly for more episodes of this show.
I'm interested to see where it goes, though.
Originally Posted by LordCanti
Episode 1 was definitely great. I'm hopeful that the rest of the series can maintain (or surpass) that level.
I noticed that (not necessarily spoilers, but theories based on observations) the school itself has eyes, a neck, and the shoulder outline of a seifuku. I wonder if that is just a motif, or if the whole school is going to enter the fray at some point.
Nice OT OP.
Edit: Oh, if we're posting impressions:
The animation style is really working for me, as is the general atmosphere of the show. After seeing a classmate get beaten to death by the student council they all go back to class and resume their day. When asked about it, Mako tells her that it happens all the time and that she shouldn't worry about it in a comic tone. That carried through to the guys getting boiled in hot oil and then emerging battered and fried and other stuff like that. That's very reminiscent of FLCL to me, although there are obviously shades of Gurren Lagann in the basic premise of her having to fight minions in order to get to bigger bosses, which mimics Viral/Tymlyph (sp), Viral/ Uhh...Ocean Lady, etc.
I'm not in love with the design of her outfit, but assuming that it will fill in as she absorbs the power or threads or whatever of the other Goku it's not a big deal to me. It's definitely not the turnoff that it seems to be for some people.
Watched the first eps....I dig it. Also, Viral from Gurren Lagann is in the show! He voices Uzu Sanageyama. Itsuki from Initial D is there too....voicing the boxer guy. And of course, Viral's actor also voiced Initial D's Nakazato Takeshi (Night Kids leader).
Boob outfit doesn't really jive with me but as of yet it hasn't gotten a ton of time on screen so it's not really detracting from anything for me
love Gamagori.
art desgin is great. kind of loved Ryūko's outfit as a juxtopostion to all the school uniforms and the "order it represents
but
fuck y'all that guitar when title shows up behind Ryuuko was hype
Well, I'll be watching, as long as the subs stay free on Daisuki.
Most of the soundtrack was unremarkable, but I was thrilled every time that guitar riff kicked in. It showed up in the portion of the fight after Ryuuko's uniform was fully revealed, and it was awesome.i know Sawano gets a lot of shit for his music lately
but
fuck y'all that guitar when title shows up behind Ryuuko was hype
Yeah, I love the whole zoom out from the school to the spin around Ryuuko, that's a really cool sequence. Still think the music should be louder though!i know Sawano gets a lot of shit for his music lately
but
fuck y'all that guitar when title shows up behind Ryuuko was hype
At first I was all "THIS IS MY JAM!! I can't wait to show this show to my wife!"
But then... "Wait...wtf is that uniform? Why? Why is that uniform?"
I love all the over-the-top stuff, the characters, the music, the animation, but this chick is such a badass, hot-blooded hero. Why are we humiliating her? Like... Something about this feels so wrong. It's not her choice to wear this, she's forced to. In order to get what she wants, she has to wear this gross uniform. There's a statement in there somewhere.
Honestly, it's just a bad, distracting design when it comes down it. She was already sexy and awesome, now I just feel uncomfortable.
Excited to see where this show goes though.
So close. You are so close.But then... "Wait...wtf is that uniform? Why? Why is that uniform?"
Like... Something about this feels so wrong. It's not her choice to wear this, she's forced to. In order to get what she wants, she has to wear this gross uniform. There's a statement in there somewhere.
She was already sexy and awesome, now I just feel uncomfortable.
Alas, what it could have been.Loved everything except for the soundtrack - should have been by Iwasaki.
Studio Pablo is working on this? Nice.Yeah, they look good. Studio Pablo - the dudes who worked on Flower of Evil's background art, among others - is assisting as well.
And I'm glad they went with a skimpy outfit rather than yet another clumsy girl with baggy clothes and tiny hands. Now THAT's some shit pandering.
Other than that, put me in the wait and see camp. First episode alright, but it's really easy to see where the series could slide into an abyss of crap really quickly. Lot's of potential quality pitfalls. Good ideas, but didn't blow me away and that suit is distracting enough to make that whole boxing fight just not fun to watch (not to mention how bad the humor about the outfit during that fight was).
By being your sort of standard, kind of dopy, cute baby-faced sidekick girl. Really didn't like her that much. She's such a walking trope. Nothing all that clever or funny in the way she's written. She dragged down the scenes she was in for me.Originally Posted by jediyoshi
God, Mako just steals every scene she's in.
Thats her point, she is suppose to be horribly cliche and annoying on purpose, when shes balancing on a box constantly talking to the main character.By being your sort of standard, kind of dopy, cute baby-faced sidekick girl. Really didn't like her that much. She's such a walking trope. Nothing all that clever or funny in the way she's written. She dragged down the scenes she was in for me.
That being the point does not make it good writing. There are smart ways to do that type of character, she just happens to be a terrible version.Originally Posted by foxuzamaki
Thats her point, she is suppose to be horribly cliche and annoying on purpose, when shes balancing on a box constantly talking to the main character.
I guess the only kind of anime like this I've liked was Panty/Stocking.
Case in point:Never trust ANN.
Rating: 2 (out of 5)
An undeniably stylish and frantically paced (to say nothing of well hyped) show, Kill la Kill nonetheless has some problems that impacted my enjoyment of it, to the point where I had to turn it off and go to bed before resuming in the morning. The most glaring issue for me was one that may not bother all viewers – the repeated references to the rise of the Nazi party every time the students were in class. Granted, this makes a grand total of two times, but the seeming significance of the references was quite clear. Honnouji Academy, which towers oppressively over a shantytown, is ruled by a despotic student council garbed in fantastic Goku Uniforms, which grant their wearers amazing physical prowess. One student in the class in question has stolen one, and thus the burly blond Iro is out for blood. And he gets it – we open the next school day with another history lesson about Nazis as we find out that the student in question was, in fact, killed. This was an uncomfortable juxtaposition for me, as I don't feel that it is one that should be made lightly.
In between these scenes, we meet Ryuko, our badass heroine. Ryuko has come to town bearing half of a giant pair of scissors, which apparently was the weapon that murdered her family an undisclosed amount of years before. Ryuko is on the trail of the other blade, and instantly invokes the wrath of the student council – although not the stoic Satsuki, supreme leader of the bunch. Apparently she knows more than she's letting on. In any event, Ryuko finds a skimpy and sentient sailor uniform of her own in Daddy's basement, which allows her to fight the student council in a spectacular manner, upsetting the not-so-fragile balance of power at Honnouji. Thus a series is launched.
Perhaps Kill la Kill does more right than wrong – it looks good and is visually fascinating, there are plenty of anime trope jokes, and the shantytown is a great piece of background – but the aforementioned historical references and the fact that virtually every line is screamed take away from that. It wasn't for me.
Also, there isn't anything wrong with the current battlesuit.

Episode I: My Scissors Are The Scissors That Will Pierce The Heavens!
THAT'S QUITE AN ENTRANCE
oh my gosh this is the best show to get back into anime for. and it's only 1 minute in. All my WTF. and HOLY crap that transition sequence.
Enter protagonist. Or maybe not. I just can't expect anything after I watched Gurren Lagann.
And it looksl ike Not-Ritsu is going to be a recurring character. Hopefully. I hope. Come on, please.
And I just continue to be astounded by this animation. Nothing really of note has happened, but there's just so much life and expressiveness in what's going on. Mako's just the cutest.
Also I know I haven't really watched anything other than the first episode of Utena but right now I'm getting major Utena vibes here with all this student council whatevers.
WOW this show is really going all out on the ridiculousness already. Wahaha.

That takes some real strength, Mako. You don't even need a super suit!
Welp. Anime redeemed, Anime Of The Year, etc. etc.
...Also I can't wait for the point where everything goes terribly wrong in this show.
I have this sinking feeling that things are just not going to go well for Mako. Something tragic is going to happen. It's just inevitable.
Also, I think it's pretty clear Ryuko's suit probably is going to be less revealing as time goes on; the one thread joining her suit at the end of the fight should make that clear enough. We're totally going to have our minds blown on this show guys, no need to worry.
Hate the armor design, thought it looked cooler with the cloak on. I actually like the first varsity jacket + uniform design better, not a big fan of the in your face fan service. Regardless, loved how crazy and hilarious it was.
Poor blonde ring girl lol
they overdid it, or at least that's what I thought and bothered me. I understand when she gets "assaulted" by the uniform or when she gets half naked for the first time, but in that fight she was blushing all the time....That's an interesting position to take. Why don't you like the blushing?
um. it's not only about slut/pussy jokes, not at all. there is a lot more than that, and really well done too.Originally Posted by CornBurrito
Oh thank god someone else put into words my exact thoughts on Panty & Stocking.
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