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chadskin
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(10-21-2013, 11:52 PM)
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"For the analog sticks, we did test having the analog sticks on top, since the Xbox has the left side on top [above the D-pad]," Sony's Toshimasa Aoki said. "Especially from the shooter teams--we got feedback that that's what they wanted. They knew that consumers liked the 360 for shooters."

Sony experimented with every possible combination of stick placement, even going so far as prototyping a controller with both analog sticks on top--much like the Wii U Pro Controller (above). However, Sony discovered that it didn't work.

Ultimately, "tradition" was what won out at Sony, with Aoki saying symmetrical sticks are part of the company's DNA. "The prototype team, myself, and also the management team really felt that having this look is the PlayStation look, and we had to keep that."

Source - via Shacknews

Shock if old.
Tucah
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(10-21-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Glad they stuck to the old configuration.
sestrugen
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(10-21-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Symmetrical > Asymmetrical so thank you Sony
Empty
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(10-21-2013, 11:53 PM)
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good decision. i prefer them that way.
BadWolf
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(10-21-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Good.
Amir0x
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(10-21-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Even though I never had a problem with symmetrical sticks (more the loose-ness and closeness of the sticks), "tradition" is a really stupid reason to make a critical design choice. "It simply works the best" should be the only consideration for a game controller.
LiquidMetal14
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(10-21-2013, 11:53 PM)
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They made the right choice.
Defect
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(10-21-2013, 11:53 PM)
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Should've had both versions.
faberpach
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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I would love to have the option.
R dott B
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Should have switched to that layout.
giancarlo123x
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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I'm glad they kept it the way it's always been.
Pop-O-Matic
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
You fucked up, Sony.
cyberheater
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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It's a pity. The Xbox controller layout is much more comfortable.
Haribo
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
Good.
Team Vernia
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
Tradition over functionality? BOOOOOO!

Still excited to try the controller, though. Heard good things.
Salvor.Hardin
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Did they prototype with a boomerang again?
Markitron
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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I regularly use both controllers, it makes absolutely no difference
Cuyejo
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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They made the correct decision!
zinder
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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Thanks god.
Fracas
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(10-21-2013, 11:54 PM)
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I wish there was an official DS4 with asymmetrical sticks. I may end up grabbing a third party controller.
kittens
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(10-21-2013, 11:55 PM)
As long as they feel good, I don't care. I've always preferred the Xbox controllers over the Playstation ones, but it sounds like the Dualshock 4 is a huge improvement.
Deadly Cyclone
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(10-21-2013, 11:55 PM)
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Should have released one of each. Best answer.
Orayn
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(10-21-2013, 11:55 PM)
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Layout isn't a huge sticking point for me, but it still would have been neat if they released an asymmetrical version. The Controller S and Duke briefly coexisted on the original Xbox, right?
serversurfer
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(10-21-2013, 11:55 PM)
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I prefer my controllers like I prefer my hands; symmetrical.
Smokey
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(10-21-2013, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by cyberheater

It's a pity. The Xbox controller layout is much more comfortable.

This
Mr. West
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(10-21-2013, 11:55 PM)
That's fine. The PS3 controller's problem was more the closeness and looseness of the sticks than anything.
Pagusas
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(10-21-2013, 11:55 PM)
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They made the wrong choice, they even basically admitted it. Tradition won out over the better implementation. Oh well can't win them all, and they've done enough other good stuff that I'm not going to complain, just suck it up and get use to it.
NoirVisage
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(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)

Originally Posted by cyberheater

It's a pity they didn't make the controller more like what i'm used to on an entirely different console. The Xbox controller layout is much more comfortable to me.

Fixed it for you my friend.
dmr87
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(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Thank you Sony, for keeping the superior design.
Ishida
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(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)
Thank God they kept the symmetrical sticks.

They made the right decision.
Loudninja
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Food for thought.
(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Pretty sure this was known.
Pain
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(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Team Vernia

Tradition over functionality? BOOOOOO!

Still excited to try the controller, though. Heard good things.

So you're saying the stick layout is nonfunctional?

If they put the analog stick where the D-pad is it would be harder to use the touchpad.
UNCMark
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(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)
Bad decision. But 'deal with it', I guess.
Doffen
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(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Damn shame, will probably get fixed with a 3. party controller soon'ish.
kittens
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(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone

Should have released one of each. Best answer.

That'd be so cool.

Originally Posted by Pain

So you're saying the stick layout is nonfunctional?

Functionality isn't a zero sum game.
Rizsparky
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(10-21-2013, 11:56 PM)
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Glad they stuck with it, I'm pretty sure third party controllers can cater for gamers who prefer asymmetrical sticks.
Zukuu
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(10-21-2013, 11:57 PM)
Glad they sticked with it. Asymmetrical is just atrocious and feels unnatural.
AkIRA_22
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Originally Posted by Defect

Should've had both versions.

It really wouldn't kill them to make an official asymmetrical controller for those that want it. Pack in the standard one with the console, that way they have to buy a second controller at the full retail price... is anyone at Sony listening? I just gave you free money
artist
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(10-21-2013, 11:57 PM)

Originally Posted by Tucah

Glad they stuck to the old configuration.

Originally Posted by sestrugen

Symmetrical > Asymmetrical so thank you Sony

Originally Posted by Empty

good decision. i prefer them that way.

Originally Posted by BadWolf

Good.

Originally Posted by LiquidMetal14

They made the right choice.

Originally Posted by giancarlo123x

I'm glad they kept it the way it's always been.

Originally Posted by Haribo

Good.

Originally Posted by Cuyejo

They made the correct decision!

Originally Posted by zinder

Thanks god.

Originally Posted by serversurfer

I prefer my controllers like I prefer my hands; symmetrical.

Originally Posted by dmr87

Thank you Sony, for keeping the superior design.

Originally Posted by Ishida

Thank God they kept the symmetrical sticks.

They made the right decision.

Originally Posted by Zukuu

Glad they sticked with it. Asymmetrical is just atrocious and feels unnatural.

Best decision.
Visualante2
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(10-21-2013, 11:57 PM)
Sony as a brand is known for form over function. I would like to think there's more to games than shooters, personally.
sublimit
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(10-21-2013, 11:57 PM)
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I'm really glad they kept the symmetrical sticks.Always hated the asymmetrical sticks on GC and xbox controllers.
Frillen
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(10-21-2013, 11:57 PM)
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In this thread it's easy to see who loves FPSs and who doesn't. Try playing Call of Duty with a 360 controller for a few days, then switch over to the PS3 controller and play Call of Duty with that. It's like hell times 10.
Xanadu
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Originally Posted by Zukuu

Glad they sticked with it. Asymmetrical is just atrocious and feels unnatural.

weird because the 360 controller is much more comfortable than the dualshock
Rey
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(10-21-2013, 11:57 PM)
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So they went for looks on a contoller ha.... Amazing

Wish they chose to bring 2 versions.
alr1ght
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(10-21-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Here is a vid with Sucker Punch detailing how they iterated and iterated again designing the controller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywdb7aXzVQ8

<cue 10 pages of bickering about this for the 100th time>
Treythalomew
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(10-21-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Would have preferred 360 style but just glad they didn't do the sticks on top like Wii U. I can play games with the Wii U controller but I never feel comfortable about it.
Monty Mole
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(10-21-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rizsparky

Glad they stuck with it, I'm pretty sure third party controllers can cater for gamers who prefer asymmetrical sticks.

I wish they'd gone asymmetrical. I'm pretty sure third party controllers can cater for gamers who prefer symmetrical sticks.
h1nch
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(10-21-2013, 11:58 PM)
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I've always preferred the Xbox style, but its not a strong preference TBH. Both layouts work well.

I'm more interested in how the sticks are shaped, and how much resistance they give, as those were the two things that made me dislike the DS3, along with the shape of the trigger buttons and the overall shape of the controller.

Haven't held one for myself but from pictures it looks like they addressed all of those things (I've heard that the sticks are a bit more resistant. Is this true?)

Either way, I'm really jones'ing to try both controllers out for myself.
jon bones
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(10-21-2013, 11:58 PM)
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damn, so close. still going PS4, but that would have been peeeerrrrfect.
hey_it's_that_dog
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(10-21-2013, 11:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Amir0x

Even though I never had a problem with symmetrical sticks (more the loose-ness and closeness of the sticks), "tradition" is a really stupid reason to make a critical design choice. "It simply works the best" should be the only consideration for a game controller.

Yeah, I don't care either way how the sticks are laid out, but I would be interested to hear more about the testing and feedback process.

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