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vladdamad
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(10-22-2013, 05:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Markitron

Do people really think AC3 is worse than Revelations? Revelations is one of the worst games I have played in the last 5 years. It was like they decided to make a Bomb-crafting tower defense game and turned it into an AC game in the last few months of development

You could ignore all the new mechanics if you wanted to, which is what I did. And at least Revelations had a coherent plot with a fantastic ending, AC3 was terrible in every aspect
dangerbyrnes
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(10-22-2013, 05:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rei no Otaku

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/as...ck-flag/109958

http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Cree...ns+creed+4+ps4

Ah ok, that would be a reasonable place to look. lol

thanks, i already changed it.
Carbonox
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(10-22-2013, 05:50 PM)
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So hyped. Torn whether or not to jump in to this or Killzone Shadow Fall at PS4 launch.
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(10-22-2013, 05:51 PM)
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Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirates life for me.

Deserves to be in the OP.
Matt2thefuture
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(10-22-2013, 05:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Markitron

Do people really think AC3 is worse than Revelations? Revelations is one of the worst games I have played in the last 5 years. It was like they decided to make a Bomb-crafting tower defense game and turned it into an AC game in the last few months of development

I agree with you, though were in the minority. AC3 gets much more hate than Revelations, espcially on Neogaf. Revelations was a much worse game that barely changed anything from Brotherhood, story felt really pointless, used old areas from AC1 aka rehashed a bunch of old material. AC3 had some problems but it was a much better game than revelations, sea combat was was a better minigame than that terrible tower defense game.
strafer
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(10-22-2013, 05:53 PM)
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I think AC3 is the best in the series.

Loved the whole Homestead part and how it grew.
Toa TAK
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(10-22-2013, 05:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by strafer

I think AC3 is the best in the series.

Loved the whole Homestead part and how it grew.

*brofist*

Yes! ACIII is my favorite of the bunch.

The Homestead was great in that as the community grew, we also got to see the lighter side of Connor.
Markitron
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(10-22-2013, 05:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by vladdamad

You could ignore all the new mechanics if you wanted to, which is what I did. And at least Revelations had a coherent plot with a fantastic ending, AC3 was terrible in every aspect

Maybe the bomb-making, my memory is hazy but I remember those awful tower defense sections happened when your notoriety got high, so you certainly couldnt ignore them. As far as the ending goes what exactly was the Revelation? That Altair had an apple in his tomb? Is that a Revelation? Any ending to the game would have been ruined by the terrible trial and error chase section beforehand

I honestly thought they were both below average, Id favour AC3 because I thought it was a little more ambitious (if a little misguided)
Markitron
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(10-22-2013, 05:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Matt2thefuture

I agree with you, though were in the minority. AC3 gets much more hate than Revelations, espcially on Neogaf. Revelations was a much worse game that barely changed anything from Brotherhood, story felt really pointless, used old areas from AC1 aka rehashed a bunch of old material. AC3 had some problems but it was a much better game than revelations, sea combat was was a better minigame than that terrible tower defense game.

Exactly
vladdamad
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(10-22-2013, 06:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Markitron

Maybe the bomb-making, my memory is hazy but I remember those awful tower defense sections happened when your notoriety got high, so you certainly couldnt ignore them. As far as the ending goes what exactly was the Revelation? That Altair had an apple in his tomb? Is that a Revelation? Any ending to the game would have been ruined by the terrible trial and error chase section beforehand

I honestly thought they were both below average, Id favour AC3 because I thought it was a little more ambitious (if a little misguided)

I remember having to farm for the trophy where you have to do three of the tower defense things, so it probably was avoidable. Although it could have been the fact that I went straight through the missions during my first playthrough. And I think Revelations was just a dumb title, I was more impressed by the fact that the ending provided closure for Ezio and Altair simultaneously, through the context of Desmond. When they show you Altair's death, followed by Ezio discovering the body, and that monologue, I felt that my time with the franchise was coming to a close, will all the narrative threads being neatly wrapped up. Apart from Desmond's thing of course, which was meant to be resolved in AC3.

I agree with you about AC3 being ambitious, but I felt that the game was so off the mark in all aspects that I could not enjoy it at all. My main issue with AC3 lies with the fact that I was heavily invested in the narrative, and the story in that game was god-awful. The ending was my biggest disappointment this gen.
dangerbyrnes
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(10-22-2013, 06:04 PM)
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Thanks Mod that changed the title, more accurate now =]

H: All major theme parks have delays. When they opened Disneyland in 1956, nothing worked!
M: Yeah, but, John, if The Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the tourists.

Off-Kilter
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(10-22-2013, 06:04 PM)
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Eagerly awaiting reviews on this one.
anddo0
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(10-22-2013, 06:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Off-Kilter

Eagerly awaiting reviews on this one.

I think it will review favorably.

It takes the best parts about AC, and mixes them with elements from Far Cry 3. I don't see how you can go wrong there. The present day gameplay is now more or less optional. It's AC, I'm not expecting anything groundbreaking. But with Watch Dogs and Drive Club being delayed. It's the perfect filler.
Toa TAK
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(10-22-2013, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by dangerbyrnes

Thanks Mod that changed the title, more accurate now =]

Oh man, that quote is played all the time at Universal Studios. Ironically, enough.
conman
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(10-22-2013, 06:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Markitron

Maybe the bomb-making, my memory is hazy but I remember those awful tower defense sections happened when your notoriety got high, so you certainly couldnt ignore them.

Yes, you could easily avoid them. Played through to 100% completion and only had to do the tutorial tower defense. The only way you had to defend a tower is if you ignored your notoriety levels, and even then you had a "grace period" once it reached high levels. People who had to regularly defend towers are probably the same people who like to rush through games without bothering with the full breadth of a game's systems and design. For everyone else, the tower defense was ridiculously easy to avoid.

Regardless, I thought Revelations was outstanding from a design perspective (story-wise it sucked, and the Altair bits and linear "instanced" areas in the beginning and end were awful). It was far from perfect, but compared to the travesty to intelligence and logic that was AC3, Revelations looks like the Mona Effing Lisa.
hayguyz
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(10-22-2013, 06:12 PM)
I'm getting lots of pirate ads on NeoGAF after reading this thread
NotTheGuyYouKill
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(10-22-2013, 06:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by vladdamad

I remember having to farm for the trophy where you have to do three of the tower defense things, so it probably was avoidable. Although it could have been the fact that I went straight through the missions during my first playthrough. And I think Revelations was just a dumb title, I was more impressed by the fact that the ending provided closure for Ezio and Altair simultaneously, through the context of Desmond. When they show you Altair's death, followed by Ezio discovering the body, and that monologue, I felt that my time with the franchise was coming to a close, will all the narrative threads being neatly wrapped up. Apart from Desmond's thing of course, which was meant to be resolved in AC3.

I agree with you about AC3 being ambitious, but I felt that the game was so off the mark in all aspects that I could not enjoy it at all. My main issue with AC3 lies with the fact that I was heavily invested in the narrative, and the story in that game was god-awful. The ending was my biggest disappointment this gen.

Truthfacts.
Dysun
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(10-22-2013, 06:13 PM)
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yohoho a pirates life for me

Can't wait to put this in my PS4 launch day
Angry Fork
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(10-22-2013, 06:15 PM)
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I almost want to get this just for the water alone, it looks so beautiful I want to jump in it. But I'm tired/bored of this series after 3, and I don't like/care for pirates.

I'd come back if they made a French/Russian revolution themed game.
witness
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(10-22-2013, 06:17 PM)
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Buying the ps3 version black Friday and then doing the ps4 upgrade to get it cheaper. That new 8 minute trailer is insane.
Off-Kilter
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(10-22-2013, 06:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by anddo0

I think it will review favorably.

It takes the best parts about AC, and mixes them with elements from Far Cry 3. I don't see how you can go wrong there. The present day gameplay is now more or less optional. It's AC, I'm not expecting anything groundbreaking. But with Watch Dogs and Drive Club being delayed. It's the perfect filler.

Sure it sounds great on paper, but then again so did AC3. Once I actually got to playing that game though, I was greeted by terrible pacing, an unlikeable cast of characters, and lots of bugs.

I'm willing to give the franchise another shot, but I just don't want to be burned again. All I need is some confirmation.
Ryuelli
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(10-22-2013, 06:19 PM)
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I actually really enjoyed AC3 (first and only game in the series I've played), so I'm thinking of picking this up as well. I'm a little hesitant though, because I actually wasn't that fond of the Naval battles, they just felt clunky.
Ashtar
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(10-22-2013, 06:28 PM)
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I demand this video be added to the OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1zGqRXZlnY


KaizorPenguin
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(10-22-2013, 06:32 PM)
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So hype!Why, yes, I do have to post TJ gifs in every thread about this game
Loved every game in the series, don't see that changing.

EDIT: ASHTAR MY MAN! #KTJR
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IvanI
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(10-22-2013, 06:37 PM)
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PC version preordered (first time playing AC on a PC). Now I wait a month... -_-
JustAnotherOtaku
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(10-22-2013, 06:38 PM)
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One week to go! Going with the current-gen version as I'm too impatient to wait a few more weeks.
Nori Chan
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(10-22-2013, 06:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by CyReN

I usually pick up Assassin Creed on launch, going to suck waiting for the Xbox One version this year.

Yessir this is how I am feeling right now. Have to wait nearly a month for it.
semiconscious
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(10-22-2013, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Off-Kilter

Sure it sounds great on paper, but then again so did AC3...

weird - ac3 never sounded great on paper to me. otoh, this game sounds (&, imo, looks) to be just right :) ...
chickdigger802
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(10-22-2013, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by semiconscious

weird - ac3 never sounded great on paper to me. otoh, this game sounds (&, imo, looks) to be just right :) ...

weird because gameplay wise, its near identical to 3 ;)
Ashtar
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(10-22-2013, 07:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by KaizorPenguin


So hype!Why, yes, I do have to post TJ gifs in every thread about this game
Loved every game in the series, don't see that changing.

EDIT: ASHTAR MY MAN! #KTJR

You know how I roll! we on the jeep baby that turquoise jeep baby!

just imagine flynt flossy and the gang instead of the lakers
semiconscious
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(10-22-2013, 07:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802

weird because gameplay wise, its near identical to 3 ;)

hey: i'd rather be pillaging/plundering in the caribbean than running through an american revolutionary forest. you got a problem with that? :) ...
UrbanRats
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(10-22-2013, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Toa TAK

I've been thinking about it, but I guess that's what the upgrade is form. :P



OST is pretty good. Been listening to it since it's come out. Tyler always does a good job with his scores.

The main theme is addicting, too. The Ends of the Earth remind me of Far Cry 3 big time.

Wow, no kidding! (listening to it now).
I thought the OST in 3 was incredibly bland, this sounds pretty nice, so far.

Still not on the levels of 2/brohood though.
However those are some of my favorites of all time, so it's understandable.
chickdigger802
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(10-22-2013, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by semiconscious

hey: i'd rather be pillaging/plundering in the caribbean than running through an american revolutionary forest. you got a problem with that? :) ...

no issues with that! I just wish protagonist had some more pirate 'swag' in his animations. Seems out of place.
Pops Maellard
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(10-22-2013, 07:06 PM)
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Wait a minute, when did the PC release get pushed until November?!
chickdigger802
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(10-22-2013, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pops Maellard

Wait a minute, when did the PC release get pushed until November?!

a while back. there excuse is that its based off the next gen version, so it launches with the next gen versions >.>"
dangerbyrnes
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(10-22-2013, 07:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pops Maellard

Wait a minute, when did the PC release get pushed until November?!

Not sure, looked it up on steam while making the OT, saw it was put to November 19th. assuming its due to next gen versions coming around then.

annoying, cause i was all set to play this next week... but now ill have to wait. =\
(not like this doesn't always happen with AC on PC)
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CrazyDude
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(10-22-2013, 07:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pops Maellard

Wait a minute, when did the PC release get pushed until November?!

When is the PC version ever not pushed back?
GustyGardens
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(10-22-2013, 07:12 PM)
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Still waiting on that Wii U footage.
Fandangox
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(10-22-2013, 07:14 PM)
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Burned out from Assassins Creed from some time ago, but I plan to pick this one up eventually cause god damn I love pirates.
Sioen
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(10-22-2013, 07:20 PM)
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Getting it for current-gen too, I'm way too impatient.
Hero_of_the_Day
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(10-22-2013, 07:23 PM)
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Holy shit, this comes out next we...

November 19 for PC

Oh.
Pops Maellard
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(10-22-2013, 07:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802

a while back. there excuse is that its based off the next gen version, so it launches with the next gen versions >.>"

Haha, wow. Just spent the remainder of my wallet cash on Lego Marvel instead, I'll pick up ACIV during a sale. Ridiculous delay for no reason...
iNvid02
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(10-22-2013, 07:34 PM)
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nice op. not really excited for this though, or anything else for that matter. feels weird man

Originally Posted by Sn4ke_911

OST is on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYaX8e1l-O8

never disappoints unlike the games :D :(
Milennia
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(10-22-2013, 07:34 PM)
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Awesome op!

Im in for the ps4 version, so ill just be afk for 3 weeks -.-
Martian
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(10-22-2013, 07:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Frumix

There's only one true pirate song that fits this thread

Im almost 100% positive I recognize one of those voices from Chivalry Medieval Warfare screaming
dreamfall
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(10-22-2013, 07:40 PM)
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Great OT!

I'm really hyped. I'm trying to stay away from videos to get mentally prepared.

Picking it up on the PS4, to see what the system will be capable at launch.

Also, multiplayer is always so much wreckless fun!
SuomiDude
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(10-22-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Hope the game will be good, as I'm planning to buy the Wii U version. This game sounds promising, looks great, sounds great, seems to play well. So depending on the reviews and hands on impressions, I'll decide if I buy it or not. But Wii U version it'll be.
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(10-22-2013, 07:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by vladdamad

You could ignore all the new mechanics if you wanted to, which is what I did. And at least Revelations had a coherent plot with a fantastic ending, AC3 was terrible in every aspect

Revelations plot was practically non-existent. It's the quintessential example of filler. Forgetting the modern day stuff of course, AC3 had a better plot than Revelations.
Effect
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(10-22-2013, 08:13 PM)
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If this "real world" stuff is completely optional this is starting to feel that it should be more of a side-story then anything. Didn't the "real world" characters, etc drive the story forward and gave structure and meaning for why you were explore the past lives of the various assassin's.

So should this game really have a 4 attached to it in the end? Or could they be lying and there are non-animus sections that aren't optional that will push the game's overall story forward?

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