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LeleSocho
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(10-22-2013, 11:04 PM)
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I don't like the thinner bezels... imho it loses on comfort when you hold it.

But dat thinness and weight. Still don't know if i'll upgrade to Air or rMini (i was one of the stupids that bought the 3rd gen :/ ).
chickdigger802
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(10-22-2013, 11:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by piratepwnsninja

The regular iPad mini seems like a great deal. Are there iPad apps that won't run on that?

not really, and if you want I can sell you my half year old 16gb one for $200 ;)
Good Job Bob
(10-22-2013, 11:12 PM)
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Have they finally laminated the screen on this one?
Ken Masters
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(10-22-2013, 11:16 PM)
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Black + 32GB + LTE, November 1 can't get here soon enough



do these go on sale at 3AM Friday this week?
Dr. Feel Good
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(10-22-2013, 11:17 PM)
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Can we preorder these? Or can I so this online? Still don't have my fucking iPhone an would like to avoid that again at all cost.
Ken Masters
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(10-22-2013, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Feel Good

Can we preorder these? Or can I so this online? Still don't have my fucking iPhone an would like to avoid that again at all cost.

When did you order your phone? I ordered my brother's 5S last week and it's arriving Monday
animlboogy
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(10-22-2013, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by LeleSocho

I don't like the thinner bezels... imho it loses on comfort when you hold it.

But dat thinness and weight. Still don't know if i'll upgrade to Air or rMini (i was one of the stupids that bought the 3rd gen :/ ).

That one sent me off iPads. My 2 was a better experience except for the screen. The thing even had heat issues! It would warm up, lose performance, and kill apps regularly. They went for Retina too soon.

The wait on the Mini probably means good things for it. It would bet on it not being a repeat of the 3.
GK86
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(10-22-2013, 11:19 PM)
Lol holy fuck at that pricing. What a joke.
Rookje
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(10-22-2013, 11:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by nemss

With the iPad 2 still going for $400 retail, I would think you should get at least $350 for your iPad.

If space is higher, then I would try for even more. Apple products tend to hold their value.

I see around $270 on eBay being the average B/O price for a Used 16GB Mini Black.
VPhys
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(10-22-2013, 11:19 PM)

Originally Posted by MThanded

Apple has a far better ecosystem. Its a pretty easy sell if you already have an iphone, macbook air or macbook pro. It really makes no sense to go anywhere else.

I have a Macbook pro and it made sense for me to get a Nexus 7. Not only did it make sense, but the Nexus 7 does some things EASIER than my 4th gen ipad did. Moving media (pictures/video/music) to and from each device is much easier with my Nexus than with an iPad and having to use itunes. Just sayin.


The only thing I miss is ichat.
funkystudent
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(10-22-2013, 11:19 PM)
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Would rather they kept it tick but made the battery life godly.
Wikzo
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(10-22-2013, 11:21 PM)
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Getting it on day one. Looking forward to retiring my old 1gen iPad (aka giving it to my mother) :)

I really hope that it has more than 1 GB RAM (2 GB would be really nice).

One thing, though: I think the "Air" and "Mini" names are too similar, making some potential confusions among laymen people. Also, I still associate the MacBook Air name with a lesser MacBook. Not a big deal, but still.
Dr. Feel Good
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(10-22-2013, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ken Masters

When did you order your phone? I ordered my brother's 5S last week and it's arriving Monday

September 28th. Through AT&T though. Fucking salesman lies to my face and said I'd get it next week.
animlboogy
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(10-22-2013, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by VPhys

I have a Macbook pro and it made sense for me to get a Nexus 7. Not only did it make sense, but the Nexus 7 does some things EASIER than my 4th gen ipad did. Moving media (pictures/video/music) to and from each device is much easier with my Nexus than with an iPad and having to use itunes. Just sayin.


The only thing I miss is ichat.

I miss the snappier performance. The 7 is pretty damn good but a longtime iOS user notices the less snappy scrolling on webpages, for example. But now that I'm used to the freedom of the platform and the hardware (Nexus devices are the default for crazy stuff like Ubuntu support) I'm not sure I'd go back to an iPad. I have no desire for a different Android device, either. Its this specific decide that works so well for me.
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solarus
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(10-22-2013, 11:22 PM)
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The 399 dollar ipad 2 is robbery, no question about it.
animlboogy
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(10-22-2013, 11:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by solarus

The 399 dollar ipad 2 is robbery, no question about it.

It was a good deal when the 3 and even 4 launched. Now its just the 5C in tablet form.
The_Joker1721
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(10-22-2013, 11:25 PM)
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Always wanted an iPad. Don't like to play games on the small iPod touch screen. Of course it's gonna have other functions I can use in my life. Hmmm...
iammeiam
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(10-22-2013, 11:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Somnid

They have those too. $40.

What I'm seeing on the Apple website for the air is a $40 poly Smart Cover (no back), or a $79 leather Smart Case with wraparound back. I'm just somewhat surprised by them apparently not having anything in between (the price point I think the leather Smart Cover or poly Smart Cases filled on previous models.)

They also look like they've swapped to the wrapped hinge mechanism used on the current Mini covers, so no more scratching.

The Apple cases are ridiculously overpriced, but the leather cover I was given back when I got my iPad 2 has held up admirably well, so I find 'em tempting in an "If I'm already paying Apple Tax..." kinda way.
shwimpy
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(10-22-2013, 11:27 PM)
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Was gonna get ipad mini 2 but since this is coming out first and apple's return policy is so generous, might as well try it out.
GreatMightySymp
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(10-22-2013, 11:29 PM)
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Mini is too small for me, so I'll be picking this up. I'll give me older-gen model to my parents as an early Xmas present most likely, still basically new except for a few small scratches on the back.
Jakfu
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(10-22-2013, 11:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by LeleSocho

I don't like the thinner bezels... imho it loses on comfort when you hold it.

But dat thinness and weight. Still don't know if i'll upgrade to Air or rMini (i was one of the stupids that bought the 3rd gen :/ ).

Same :/

I was talking about this part
"(i was one of the stupids that bought the 3rd gen :/ )"
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Deadstar
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(10-22-2013, 11:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jakfu

Same :/

I thought everyone loved the thin bezzle? I remember reading a lot of positive impressions on the mini.
Khalifa Jayy
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(10-22-2013, 11:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bboy AJ

WTF, I just bought an iPad yesterday and they come out with something new? This is such bullshit.

Way too many people are going to be falling for this one...
Angelus Errare
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(10-22-2013, 11:40 PM)
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As an OG iPad2 owner.

Best Apple purchase ever lolol, who would have thought my shit would be so future proof in the Apple scheme of things. <3
Flek
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(10-22-2013, 11:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Angelus Errare

As an OG iPad2 owner.

Best Apple purchase ever lolol.

lol right its like the iphone 4s
Cyport
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(10-22-2013, 11:46 PM)
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As an iPad 3 owner, I kinda feel like i'm in a black hole. If I had an iPad 2 I could sell it for a pretty reasonable amount to go towards an iPad air. The same for an iPad 4.

The 3 is just a gimmick and no one wants one
dorkimoe
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(10-22-2013, 11:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cyport

As an iPad 3 owner, I kinda feel like i'm in a black hole. If I had an iPad 2 I could sell it for a pretty reasonable amount to go towards an iPad air. The same for an iPad 4.

The 3 is just a gimmick and no one wants one

just keep it

I skipped the 3 and the 4, after a week or so of the releases i forgot all about it, my 2 ran great. Its time now though


I really hope i can find a case as good as the one i had on my 2 though. It got discontinued like 3 days after i bought the case, it was the best ever. Covered back and front and propped up easily
nemss
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(10-22-2013, 11:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cyport

As an iPad 3 owner, I kinda feel like i'm in a black hole. If I had an iPad 2 I could sell it for a pretty reasonable amount to go towards an iPad air. The same for an iPad 4.

The 3 is just a gimmick and no one wants one

I think you'd still get a good price for it. Its like the iPad 2 but better!
Jtwo
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(10-22-2013, 11:54 PM)
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I saw the writing on the wall and ditched that ipad3 the second I could y'all. Fuck that thang.
kfpkiller
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(10-22-2013, 11:57 PM)
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The A7 in the iPad air is the same than on the iPhone 5S?
Somnid
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(10-22-2013, 11:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by kfpkiller

The A7 in the iPad air is the same than on the iPhone 5S?

This seems to be the case.
nhlducks35
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(10-23-2013, 12:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by kfpkiller

The A7 in the iPad air is the same than on the iPhone 5S?

No, on the apple web page it says that the A7 in the new Air is 2x as fast in CPU and GPU than the iPad 4. So it's probably clocked higher, or has more cores than the one in the 5S.
Pray For Death
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(10-23-2013, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by moltonasty

lol. i remember when apple products were relatively innovative. seems like every product now is the same as last years except lighter, thinner, more pixels, etc. Cosmetic enhancements and nothing more.

lol. I remember when neogaf comments were relatively innovative. seems like every comment now following apple events is the same as last years except dumber, sillier, more whining, etc. Minor differences and nothing more.
Killing_Joke
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(10-23-2013, 12:13 AM)
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I'll stick with my iPad 2 thanks. Looks awesome though. I'll probably pick it up at $200. in 2018
MThanded
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(10-23-2013, 12:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cyport

As an iPad 3 owner, I kinda feel like i'm in a black hole. If I had an iPad 2 I could sell it for a pretty reasonable amount to go towards an iPad air. The same for an iPad 4.

The 3 is just a gimmick and no one wants one

Sold mine for 350 and they usually go for 370 or more on eBay. I had a 32gb wifi.

That's a decent return. I'll get my next iPad for 350 off.
Pray For Death
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(10-23-2013, 12:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by reKon

didn't you make this joke a few weeks ago? lol

Maybe he bought another iPad yesterday.
SpinDasher
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(10-23-2013, 12:17 AM)
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I'm glad I see absolutely nothing in tablets, especially iPad's.

Really, $600 for that 32GB one? Man.
Maninthemirror
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(10-23-2013, 12:18 AM)
The last time the ipad used the same cpu as the iphone it was the ipad 3 which was a disaster because despite the higher clock speed the gpu and cpu could not handle the higher resolution compared to the iphone . The had to bring out an ipad 4 the same year to compensate for it I'll wait for reviews before i buy the mini or air now.
Diablohead
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(10-23-2013, 12:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by SpinDasher

I'm glad I see absolutely nothing in tablets, especially iPad's.

Really, $600 for that 32GB one? Man.

It's been that price for the last 3 versions, it is expensive but I still love my iPad 3 and use it every day, it's great when propped up with the cover to watch and do stuff.

Or did the US price get an increase? it's the same in the UK right now.
MThanded
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(10-23-2013, 12:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Maninthemirror

The last time the ipad used the same cpu as the iphone it was the ipad 3 which was a disaster because despite the higher clock speed the gpu and cpu could not handle the higher resolution compared to the iphone . The had to bring out an ipad 4 the same year to compensate for it I'll wait for reviews before i buy the mini or air now.

Except the phone processor is currently way over speced for the hardware IMO. Honestly if you know much about ARM you could argue that the current 5s processor could push a desktop replacement embedded board with no issues.

I'm also betting the clock speeds are different.

The iPad 4 works great with a much less optimized ARM platform. iPad air will fly. However if it makes you feel better about not getting this one then continue the conjecture.

Anandtech will lead us to the promised land soon enough.
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SpinDasher
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(10-23-2013, 12:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Diablohead

It's been that price for the last 3 versions, it is expensive but I still love my iPad 3 and use it every day, it's great when propped up with the cover to watch and do stuff.

Or did the US price get an increase? it's the same in the UK right now.

My bad then. I don't really keep up with the annual revisions so I'm way behind. I'm sure people find use for them, there's a reason they do so well. I'm just surprised they get away with those price ranges. Maybe I'm just a cheap bastard. EDIT: Holy fuck. $800 for a 128GB model, might as well save for a Macbook lol.
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(10-23-2013, 12:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Maninthemirror

The last time the ipad used the same cpu as the iphone it was the ipad 3 which was a disaster because despite the higher clock speed the gpu and cpu could not handle the higher resolution compared to the iphone . The had to bring out an ipad 4 the same year to compensate for it I'll wait for reviews before i buy the mini or air now.

The iPad 3 used an A5X which was not the same SoC as the iPhone 4S. It was simply the resolution jump was too big for the mobile tech at the time to handle. Unless you had a problem with the 4th gen this is a non-issue for people who aren't interested in high-end tablet gaming (if such a thing exists).
Bog
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(10-23-2013, 12:24 AM)
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Only expected the Mini to get the retina with last year's hardware specs. Pleasantly surprised it got the new chip, too. I'll probably bite.
Maninthemirror
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(10-23-2013, 12:26 AM)

Originally Posted by Somnid

The iPad 3 used an A5X which was not the same SoC as the iPhone 4S. It was simply the resolution jump was too big for the mobile tech at the time to handle. Unless you had a problem with the 4th gen this is a non-issue for people who aren't interested in high-end tablet gaming (if such a thing exists).


Yeah as another user says I'll wait for Anandtech
Diablohead
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(10-23-2013, 12:27 AM)
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Does anyone worry that these processors not being an X variant might mean these devices have the troubles that the underpowered iPad 3 has at some point? or did they explain that in the conference?
MThanded
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(10-23-2013, 12:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Maninthemirror

Yeah as another user says I'll wait for Anandtech

They aren't going to say that it's worse than the 4. The new processor is leagues better. However if you are on the fence, anandtech will most likely clear things up.

As a previous owner of a 3 I think this is a great time to upgrade.
bkfount
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(10-23-2013, 12:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by shwimpy

Was gonna get ipad mini 2 but since this is coming out first and apple's return policy is so generous, might as well try it out.

I love the mini, but the Air is looking like a better value now at only $100 more. I'm selling my mini and will put that money towards a 32GB mini or air. I'm just undecided so far, especially with no concrete date for the new mini.
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(10-23-2013, 12:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Diablohead

Does anyone worry that these processors not being an X variant might mean these devices have the troubles that the underpowered iPad 3 has at some point? or did they explain that in the conference?

I just explained that but essentially: does the average tablet app require more compute power than 2 years ago? The answer of course is no, the average app is still just a simply 2D UI and doesn't need something faster than last year with the exception of higher-end gaming (ie not Candy Crush/Angry Birds etc). So we're able to run more types of applications with faster SoCs but performance on old applications is universally better. If an iPad4 is considered acceptable this is simply much better. There is no possible way it'll get worse unless they change something fundamental about the data that the display requires (resolution, color depth etc).
Pray For Death
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(10-23-2013, 12:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by MThanded

Anandtech will lead us to the promised land soon enough.

The only place I visit for apple reviews. Can't wait for their ipad air article
solarus
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(10-23-2013, 12:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by kfpkiller

The A7 in the iPad air is the same than on the iPhone 5S?

Originally Posted by Somnid

This seems to be the case.

No, it will definitely be clocked at a higher speed.

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