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matthewwhatever
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(11-01-2013, 04:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by rinse82

AA has seemingly had a hard on for Beckham for the last 3 years. He just can't let players he likes go.

Looks like we picked up Lind's option

But they declined Kawasaki. NOOOOOOO.

I never thought I'd say this, but he's not a terrible player. He knows how to take pitches and draw walks, which is more than can be said about anyone on the roster outside of EE, Bautista and, occasionally, Lind. Hopefully they're able to bring him back.
Dmncnby2k9
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(11-01-2013, 04:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by jello44

I covet Stealsbury, but I don't think the Astros will make a play for him.

Wouldn't mind if they signed him or Choo.

(Both would probably cost more than triple their entire payroll lol)

they are increasing payroll though, right? get some veterans to play with that nice young talent you guys have in the minors.
Syrinx
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(11-01-2013, 05:09 PM)
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Thing is, would anybody worth a damn even want to go to the Astros? I guess if they really flash the green they could, but I don't see them winning any bidding wars.
Soka
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(11-01-2013, 05:18 PM)
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Rumor is that the Cards shut down Shelby Miller to keep him healthy as a potential trade prospect, possibly for some shortstop out of Texas. Maybe Jurickson Profar? Not sure how fair that trade would be straight up, I don't know much about Profar.
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(11-01-2013, 05:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Soka

Rumor is that the Cards shut down Shelby Miller to keep him healthy as a potential trade prospect, possibly for some shortstop out of Texas. Maybe Jurickson Profar? Not sure how fair that trade would be straight up, I don't know much about Profar.

Nah your manager is just an idiot. There was no operation shut down here. If they were doing what you said was rumored they wouldn't have wasted a roster spot on him.
nemss
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(11-01-2013, 05:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Soka

Rumor is that the Cards shut down Shelby Miller to keep him healthy as a potential trade prospect, possibly for some shortstop out of Texas. Maybe Jurickson Profar? Not sure how fair that trade would be straight up, I don't know much about Profar.

If the Cards did do this, then they flat out deserved to lose. Why have someone on the roster that you're not planning on using at all?

If he's traded, then my guess is its something else that lead to the trade.
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(11-01-2013, 05:44 PM)
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My guess is they had some crazy scenario where they would use him as a last resort, but let's be honest here, our run support was so shitty in most of these games that if Shelby had pitched and kept the game a couple runs closer we still probably would have lost. I'm not sure that makes much sense, but neither does wasting a roster space.
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(11-01-2013, 05:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by nemss

If the Cards did do this, then they flat out deserved to lose. Why have someone on the roster that you're not planning on using at all?

If he's traded, then my guess is its something else that lead to the trade.

They had Mujica on the roster and didn't use him either. Weird decisions.
Fox318
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(11-01-2013, 05:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by eznark

If there is a God Brian Wilson will no longer poison my television.

I don't know.

He would like the Miller Field slide.
jbug617
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(11-01-2013, 05:54 PM)
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What are the chances Stanton gets traded this Winter?
yankeehater
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(11-01-2013, 05:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by jbug617

What are the chances Stanton gets traded this Winter?

Is this upcoming season the last year the Marlins have control of him? If yes then they will 100% trade him.
Fox318
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(11-01-2013, 06:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by jbug617

What are the chances Stanton gets traded this Winter?

They will trade him this year for some pitching prospects.
Parch
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(11-01-2013, 07:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by matthewwhatever

But they declined Kawasaki. NOOOOOOO.
I never thought I'd say this, but he's not a terrible player. He knows how to take pitches and draw walks, which is more than can be said about anyone on the roster outside of EE, Bautista and, occasionally, Lind. Hopefully they're able to bring him back.

Kawasaki is a borderline major leaguer, but Jays don't exactly have a utility infielder that's significantly better.

I'm wondering how much of the decision had to do with this "fan favorite" nonsense and this guy being the team clown. I hated that about the Jays. When the team is in last place and struggling, all the dancing and stupid handshakes are ridiculous and unprofessional IMO. Get serious, and then celebrate when there's actually something to celebrate about.
If Jays management feels like the team needs to be more professional and without idiots like Kawasaki, then I'm all for it.

/no fun league, Serious Fox.
3N16MA
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(11-01-2013, 07:16 PM)
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Miami has Stanton under control for another 3 seasons. Until someone unloads the farm for him they won't move him.


Jeter resigned for 1/12 instead of picking up his option.
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SuperMalo
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(11-01-2013, 07:25 PM)
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Yankees sign Jeter to a one year deal worth $12 million... Wtf god dammit yanquis
3N16MA
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(11-01-2013, 07:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by SuperMalo

Yankees sign Jeter to a one year deal worth $12 million... Wtf god dammit yanquis

He had a player option which would actually cost more against the luxury tax if he picked it up.
SuperMalo
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(11-01-2013, 07:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

He had a player option which would actually cost more against the luxury tax if he picked it up.

How so? His player option was for $9.5 million.

Edit: Nevermind. If he would have picked it up the aav would have been $14 million. So they save a couple of million by doing this.
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3N16MA
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(11-01-2013, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by SuperMalo

How so? His player option was for $9.5 million.

The player option is treated as a guaranteed year under the CBA bringing Jeter's contract to 4/56 or 14M per season. More than 9.5M would be counted towards the luxury tax despite his 2014 salary.
SuperMalo
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(11-01-2013, 07:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

The player option is treated as a guaranteed year under the CBA bringing Jeter's contract to 4/56 or 14M per season. More than 9.5M would be counted towards the luxury tax despite his 2014 salary.

Yeah, I get it now after seeing Feinsand's tweet.

This just further confirms the $189 million mandate. This off-season is going to be interesting to say the least.
3N16MA
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(11-01-2013, 07:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by SuperMalo

Yeah, I get it now after seeing Feinsand's tweet.

This just further confirms the $189 million mandate. This off-season is going to be interesting to say the least.

Jeter gets more guaranteed money while the Yanks get a lower AVV towards the tax. Should free up around 3M.
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(11-01-2013, 07:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by jbug617

What are the chances Stanton gets traded this Winter?

I hope his trainer and doctors come with him.
Little Green Yoda
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(11-01-2013, 08:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Soka

Rumor is that the Cards shut down Shelby Miller to keep him healthy as a potential trade prospect, possibly for some shortstop out of Texas. Maybe Jurickson Profar? Not sure how fair that trade would be straight up, I don't know much about Profar.

Because secretly holding him out of postseason action without any type of acknowledgement would boost his trade value? If they came out and said they were Strasburging him, that may be a possibility. Doing it this way would just lead to speculation of injury and lower his trade value.

Not that we haven't done stupid stuff to lower the trade value of our players before *coughcoughColbyRasmuscough* but I'm willing to pin most of that on TLR opening his mouth to the media.

Originally Posted by nemss

If the Cards did do this, then they flat out deserved to lose. Why have someone on the roster that you're not planning on using at all?

If he's traded, then my guess is its something else that lead to the trade.

As Soka said, it ultimately matters little in the end. A healthy, effective Miller would've been significant. But assuming he really wasn't fit to pitch and you wanted to replace him on the roster, the best option to replace him would've been a third LHP out of the bullpen in Freeman/Lyons. Certainly would've helped with Ortiz but we lost because we couldn't get a big hit from the bottom of the lineup.

Our options for adding another bat were Rob fucking Johnson and Adron Chambers. If Taveras hadn't gotten injured, I'd be more upset of wasting the last two roster spots on mop-up guys who were non-factors.
Sanjuro
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(11-01-2013, 09:27 PM)
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That is all fine and dandy...but do the Yankees have enough to pony up for Joba?
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(11-01-2013, 09:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro

That is all fine and dandy...but do the Yankees have enough to pony up for Joba?

Don't they pay him in meth?
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(11-01-2013, 09:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ninja Scooter

Don't they pay him in meth?

...then maybe his best course of action would be to trampoline lightly.
Mr. Enigma
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(11-01-2013, 10:02 PM)
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Let's recap since Game 6 of the World Series.

-- The Rockies declined their half of Rafael Betancourt's $4.25 millon mutual option. He gets a $250k buyout.

-- The Brewers exercised Norichika Aoki's $1.9 million club option.

-- The Rangers announced they will extend a 1-year, $14.1 million qualifying offer to Nelson Cruz.

-- The White Sox exercised Matt Lindstrom's $4 million club option.

-- The Royals exercised James Shields' $13.5 million club option.

-- The Indians unconditionally released Chris Perez.

-- The Indians signed Jason Giambi to a minor league contract with an invite to spring training.

-- The Rangers declined Lance Berkman's $12 million club option. He will receive a $1 million buyout.

-- The Marlins exercised Jacob Turner's $1 million club option.

-- The Cardinals declined their half of Jake Westbrook's $9.5 million mutual option. He will receive a $1 million buyout.

-- The Red Sox announced they will make 1-year, $14.1 million qualifying offers to Stephen Drew, Mike Napoli, and Jacoby Ellsbury.

-- The Dodgers declined Mark Ellis' $5.75 million club option and their half of Chris Capuano's $8 million mutual option. Both Ellis and Capuano will receive $1 million buyouts.

-- The Blue Jays exercised club options on Casey Janssen ($4 million), Adam Lind ($7 million), and Mark DeRosa ($750k). They declined Munenori Kawasaki's $1 million club option.

-- The Indians exercised their half of Ubaldo Jimenez's $8 million mutual option. However, Jimenez declined his half, making him a free agent. His 2014 club option became a mutual option when the Rockies traded him on July 31, 2011.

-- The Indians declined Jason Kubel's $7.5 million club option. He will receive a $1 million buyout from the Diamondbacks.

-- The Yankees re-signed Derek Jeter to a 1-year, $12 million deal, cancelling his $9.5 million club option.

-- The Mets declined Johan Santana's $25 million club option. He will receive a $5.5 million buyout.

-- The Athletics exercised club options on Coco Crisp ($7.5 million) and Brett Anderson ($8 million). They declined club options on Chris Young ($11 million) and Kurt Suzuki ($8.5 million). Young will receive a $1.5 million buyout while Suzuki will receive a $650k buyout.

-- Wandy Rodriguez exercised his $13 million player option with the Pirates.

-- The Tigers declined Jose Veras' $3.25 million club option. He will receive a $150k buyout.
3N16MA
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(11-01-2013, 10:19 PM)
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Sherman and Onley reporting that Jeter's new deal actually worsens the tax hit a bit and does not approve it which is the opposite of what everyone was reporting.
Fox318
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(11-01-2013, 10:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro

That is all fine and dandy...but do the Yankees have enough to pony up for Joba?

We made the mound out of concrete so it could handle his weight. Might as well sign him after all of the work done.
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(11-01-2013, 10:34 PM)
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Posted?

Ryan Dempster celebrated the World Series win by throwing BP until 3 a.m. to anyone still in the stadium

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(11-01-2013, 10:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz

Posted?



That is amazing.
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(11-01-2013, 10:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz

Posted?



He will also celebrate by throwing balls at Arod and the protesters outside of the next court hearing.
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(11-01-2013, 10:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz

Posted?

That's seriously cool.
Sanjuro
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(11-01-2013, 11:15 PM)
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Guy hitting in the photo is local minor celebrity, Mike O'Malley.
nemss
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(11-01-2013, 11:20 PM)
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How dare Ryan Dempster do something cool and make me like him for it.
Fox318
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(11-01-2013, 11:23 PM)
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What was the most dramatic end to a World Series? Not game before the win(1986 and 2011 eliminated) but a winning game or game 7.

The games that come to my head are:

1926?
1955?
1960?
1991?
2001?
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(11-01-2013, 11:35 PM)
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Sanjuro lets one tear roll down his cheek: Chief Wahoo has been removed from even more Cleveland Indians gear and advertising


Wonder what they will do 20 years from now when they want to do throwback uni's?
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Sanjuro
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(11-01-2013, 11:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam

Sanjuro lets one tear roll down his cheek: Chief Wahoo has been removed from even more Cleveland Indians gear and advertising


Wonder what they will do 20 years from now when they want to do throwback uni's?

That's what I was referring to the other day. There was a larger article featuring all the places he has been removed. I'd be more okay with this if the current "C" wasn't complete trash.

I'll always love you, Chief.
Mr. Enigma
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(11-02-2013, 12:04 AM)
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New instant replay system will be tested during Arizona Fall League

The new system would allow managers one challenge from innings 1-6 and two challenges from innings 7-9. All plays will be reviewable except balls and strikes.
3N16MA
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(11-02-2013, 12:20 AM)
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Harold Reynolds is the front-runner to replace Tim McCarver. What an upgrade!

Thanks FOX!
rekameohs
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(11-02-2013, 12:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

Harold Reynolds is the front-runner to replace Tim McCarver. What an upgrade!

Thanks FOX!

Lambtron
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(11-02-2013, 12:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Enigma

New instant replay system will be tested during Arizona Fall League

The new system would allow managers one challenge from innings 1-6 and two challenges from innings 7-9. All plays will be reviewable except balls and strikes.

This system is terrible.
Edwardo
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(11-02-2013, 12:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Enigma

New instant replay system will be tested during Arizona Fall League

The new system would allow managers one challenge from innings 1-6 and two challenges from innings 7-9. All plays will be reviewable except balls and strikes.

Why can't it just go away.
darkside31337
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(11-02-2013, 12:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

Harold Reynolds is the front-runner to replace Tim McCarver. What an upgrade!

Thanks FOX!

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

I hope McCarver unretires. Pull a Bud please.
Dmncnby2k9
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(11-02-2013, 12:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

Harold Reynolds is the front-runner to replace Tim McCarver. What an upgrade!

Thanks FOX!

Oh hell no. I liked the idea of Smoltz and Verducci, but this is bad.
Syrinx
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(11-02-2013, 12:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

Harold Reynolds is the front-runner to replace Tim McCarver. What an upgrade!

Thanks FOX!

Only Fox could potentially turn Tim McCarver's retirement into a bad thing. What are they doing?
CygnusXS
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(11-02-2013, 01:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Enigma

New instant replay system will be tested during Arizona Fall League

The new system would allow managers one challenge from innings 1-6 and two challenges from innings 7-9. All plays will be reviewable except balls and strikes.

so lameness
such arbitrary
jello44
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(11-02-2013, 01:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dmncnby2k9

they are increasing payroll though, right? get some veterans to play with that nice young talent you guys have in the minors.

They are going to increase payroll, by how much remains to be seen.

First and foremost they need to fix that damn shitty bullpen.
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(11-02-2013, 01:40 AM)
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I'm gonna miss Joe Nathan. He had a fantastic two years in Texas.
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(11-02-2013, 02:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

Harold Reynolds is the front-runner to replace Tim McCarver. What an upgrade!

Thanks FOX!

Parch
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(11-02-2013, 02:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Edwardo

Why can't it just go away.

Why?
I have no problem with a replay system that gets the call right. To many stupid/blind umps. Implimentation might be awkward, but it still needs to be done.

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