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ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 05:07 AM)
Yup, it's real. I believe it happened with the last update. So instead of doing ads it seems Sony is forcing bloatware down our throats....I'll see if I can post a pic for you all.
DUFFMCWALIN
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(11-04-2013, 05:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pain

Let them. It's in the apps/services tab which makes it completely relevant.

If it really bothers people they could get another console. Vote with your wallets people. Buy the Wii U.

I bought a Wii U but that has nothing to do with this thread. Its annoying and so is the singstar one. They shouldn't be on there.

Originally Posted by Valnen

For media apps on the media tab. Don't give a shit.

Why even post in the thread if your just gonna shit it up?
ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 05:12 AM)
Here we go
efeman
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(11-04-2013, 05:16 AM)

Originally Posted by ChiliManiac

Here we go

Massive picture is massive.

So is this the first case of ads on PS3? I don't own one yet, so I wouldn't know.
Vane_MagicCity
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(11-04-2013, 05:16 AM)
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"Get a free month of movies"

How about get off of my XMB.
ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 05:18 AM)

Originally Posted by efeman

Massive picture is massive.

So is this the first case of ads on PS3? I don't own one yet, so I wouldn't know.

Well, we've had ads placed in the playstation 3 store before so it wasn't really invasive. Though this isn't really an ad, it's more like bloatware because I believe the latest update put the program on the machine.

sorry, forgot my s3 took such big pics lol.
Caddywompus
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(11-04-2013, 05:20 AM)
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Why is Netflix always on top? Did they play more for that real estate, so you always see them first?
Kuro
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(11-04-2013, 05:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by ChiliManiac

Yup, it's real. I believe it happened with the last update. So instead of doing ads it seems Sony is forcing bloatware down our throats....I'll see if I can post a pic for you all.

Its not bloatware because the app isn't actually downloaded on the console. Its just and ad for the app.
davepoobond
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(11-04-2013, 05:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Caddywompus

Why is Netflix always on top? Did they play more for that real estate, so you always see them first?

probably.



honestly i'm not that pissed about the redbox thing since you can get it for "free" for a little while if you really want it. meh.
ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 05:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Caddywompus

Why is Netflix always on top? Did they play more for that real estate, so you always see them first?

It's a reasonable asumption, it's also the most popular app so it could be a popularity thing.
ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 05:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Kuro

Its not bloatware because the app isn't actually downloaded on the console. Its just and ad for the app.

Eh, feels like it though...I agree with the OP it's still annoying.
PTG
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(11-04-2013, 05:30 AM)
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I just checked and the redbox instant icon isn't on my PS3.
Infernal Monkey
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(11-04-2013, 05:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Derpcrawler

For those who wondering about PAL SingStar ad:



You can't delete it, it's fullscreen and XMB boots into it all the time when powering on console. You can't even hide it, i.e. it doesn't go to any folder.

Fuck this thing, seriously. Every time I switch on my PS3, there it is.
commedieu
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(11-04-2013, 05:45 AM)
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no ps+ -here, but have redbox. thought it was a good option, like when amazon showed up..
Codeblew
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(11-04-2013, 05:48 AM)
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Thank you for making this topic OP. This bugs the fuck out of me also. It is one more scrolldown I have to do to get to the Youtube app. So frustrating!!!!!!!!!
AyaisMUsikWhore
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(11-04-2013, 05:56 AM)
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Is this real? I mean what? It's a app that allows you to rent movies, Why would that bother you just because it's bigger than other icons? I really don't understand.. I can't wrap my brain about this thread at all. It's an app you don't even have to go into..
mrpeabody
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(11-04-2013, 06:01 AM)

Originally Posted by Derpcrawler

For those who wondering about PAL SingStar ad:



You can't delete it, it's fullscreen and XMB boots into it all the time when powering on console. You can't even hide it, i.e. it doesn't go to any folder.

Nice to know somebody can pay to change the PS4 background, even if it isn't the owner of the console.
bishoptl
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(11-04-2013, 06:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by mrpeabody

Nice to know somebody can pay to change the PS4 background, even if it isn't the owner of the console.

That's a PS3 background.
Bluekaveli
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(11-04-2013, 06:16 AM)
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Oh Jesus that red box thing is atrocious.
ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 06:17 AM)

Originally Posted by Bluekaveli

Oh Jesus that red box thing is atrocious.

At least microsoft knows how to keep ads semi hidden lol
SmoothRunningGun
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(11-04-2013, 06:21 AM)
Sony slowly learning from MSoft.
eddfromtheriver
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(11-04-2013, 06:24 AM)

Originally Posted by ChiliManiac

At least microsoft knows how to keep ads semi hidden lol

Who wonders off into the TV/VIDEO section of the XMB except for when you're gonna use say... Netflix?, it is annoying yes... i'd like to be able to delete unwanted icons, but it's not something major.
USC-fan
aka Kbsmoker
(11-04-2013, 06:25 AM)

Originally Posted by ChiliManiac

At least microsoft knows how to keep ads semi hidden lol

Its an app. Not an ad.
ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 06:25 AM)

Originally Posted by eddfromtheriver

Who wonders off into the TV/VIDEO section of the XMB except for when you're gonna use say... Netflix?, it is annoying yes... i'd like to be able to delete unwanted icons, but it's not something major.

Do you know how many people use Netflix on their PS3? LOL :D
ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 06:28 AM)

Originally Posted by USC-fan

Its an app. Not an ad.

even worse lol
eddfromtheriver
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(11-04-2013, 06:34 AM)

Originally Posted by ChiliManiac

Do you know how many people use Netflix on their PS3? LOL :D

Of course i do... it's the number one gaming device used to watch Netflix in the U.S, my point was that if you're gonna use Netflix... then catching a glimpse of some random icon while selecting the Netflix app shouldn't be that big of an offense...
ChiliManiac
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(11-04-2013, 06:36 AM)

Originally Posted by eddfromtheriver

Of course i do... it's the number one gaming device used to watch Netflix in the U.S, my point was that if you're gonna use Netflix... then catching a glimpse of some random icon while selecting the Netflix app shouldn't be that big of an offense...

Haha, I know. I was being sarcastic in the last comment. Though if it's a preview of things to come we should at least be aware.
DirgeExtinction
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(11-04-2013, 06:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vane_MagicCity

Right in the games tab, that's really ugly.



Well, when it was just Netflix it was one little ad and then they added Amazon and it became 2 little ads and now they have added Redbox so it's three little ads.

Guess what happens next, especially if only a few complain.

So I assume you spend a lot of time in the aps/services tab for it to be annoying, huh?
IdreamofHIME
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(11-04-2013, 06:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by Derpcrawler

For those who wondering about PAL SingStar ad:



You can't delete it, it's fullscreen and XMB boots into it all the time when powering on console. You can't even hide it, i.e. it doesn't go to any folder.

Mine boots to whatever disc is in the machine....
Codeblew
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(11-04-2013, 08:56 AM)
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I am about to go fall asleep to youtube. I am already annoyed thinking about that big red box I am going to see.
redtails64
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(11-04-2013, 09:00 AM)
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I wish I could agree with how annoying and unnecessary it is, but really, I don't care. It doesn't bother me at all.
Nuklear
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(11-04-2013, 09:01 AM)
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It doesn't bother me at all. People will complain about anything I guess.
wizzbang
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(11-04-2013, 09:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vane_MagicCity

"Get a free month of movies"

How about get off of my XMB.

Such a pretty UI tarnished with shit like that :(
GYNGA
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(11-04-2013, 09:18 AM)
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#PS3NoAds campaign incoming?
Palette Swap
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(11-04-2013, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Derpcrawler

Oh, people hammered PS EU Blog for months, only thing they got was bans/comments delete and snarky remarks by SingStar community manager varying from "It won't go away" to "Deal with it". But if same thing would happen in U.S., Sony would back out on 2nd day of this BS. In EU they are as arrogant as always, because they know EU is in their pocket. That's my main concern, if PS4 will dominate again worldwide I am afraid we will see arrogant Sony again.

Yeah, that bears repeating: after forcing the app down our throats, SCEE were absolute assholes about it.
Stronty
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(11-04-2013, 10:34 AM)
I am more concerned about the games tab. If you take advantage of ps+ you can easily have over a hundred games to scroll through, every single dl of a pinball arcade vita table is another icon to scroll past. Is there some way of organizing games into sub folders?
Seraphis Cain
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(11-04-2013, 10:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Stronty

I am more concerned about the games tab. If you take advantage of ps+ you can easily have over a hundred games to scroll through, every single dl of a pinball arcade vita table is another icon to scroll past. Is there some way of organizing games into sub folders?

Press Square?
wizzbang
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(11-04-2013, 10:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Palette Swap

Yeah, that bears repeating: after forcing the app down our throats, SCEE were absolute assholes about it.

Any evidence of this?
(I believe you I'm just curious if there's more details / news articles)
Roland1979
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(11-04-2013, 10:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Prelude.

Go check out Singstar on the european PS3.

I want to murder the ones who green lighted this (ok i exaggerate). I have never bought anything related to that game and will not, out of pure principle, buy anything related or connected to it. Showing things down someones throat is not the way to go.
Derpcrawler
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(11-04-2013, 10:49 AM)

Originally Posted by wizzbang

Any evidence of this?
(I believe you I'm just curious if there's more details / news articles)

On a phone. Just use google, the article by thesixaxis is 1st or 2nd result.
Metalmurphy
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(11-04-2013, 10:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Derpcrawler

Yes, unless you opt in for "What's new" in settings. So to not see SingStar ad you need to opt in for other ads. Lesser evil I guess. But there is so many times when I misclicked this damn ad I lost the count.

You can also just keep a disc in it.
RulkezX
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(11-04-2013, 10:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Derpcrawler

For those who wondering about PAL SingStar ad:



You can't delete it, it's fullscreen and XMB boots into it all the time when powering on console. You can't even hide it, i.e. it doesn't go to any folder.


All tabs in the game section are full screen when highlighted.

My PS3 doesn't boot to this screen either.

So many little things irrationally annoy people , can you imagine if the controller had a light on top ? :)
Last edited by RulkezX; 11-04-2013 at 10:57 AM.
jeff_rigby
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(11-04-2013, 11:00 AM)
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Notice in the credits that it's using Playready DRM. I believe this is the first, at least the first official information in a Credits.

Sony announced they were going to use Playready in March of 2011 and Playready 1.0 was released Sept 2013 then we get a firmware update and on Oct 29th a Verizon Red Box APP shows up on the XMB.

With Playready, Microsoft is in charge of security and can revoke features when you are on-line if they detect that Playready has been hacked. Playready is also the DRM of choice for most CE companies (TVs, Blu-ray players, Tablets, Phones) and Cable operators for the DTCP-IP DRM being used with DLNA-RVU mandated by the FCC for June 2014.

I think Sony has been waiting on this and is the reason we haven't seen an update to the PS3's HTML5 <video> and DLNA; both will now be rewritten to use Playready. This I believe requires the entire PS3 OS to be reviewed and many routines rewritten to comply with Playready DRM. That the Verizon app is 30 megs in size would imply that most or all the Playready DRM is in the APP and little is using the PS3 software stack.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=117

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=120

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=122
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Kosma
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(11-04-2013, 11:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Prelude.

Go check out Singstar on the european PS3.

It annoys me to no end uuughhh
Derpcrawler
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(11-04-2013, 11:06 AM)

Originally Posted by Metalmurphy

You can also just keep a disc in it.

I buy mostly digital. Plus disc keep spinning whenever you a launch ANY app or game.

Originally Posted by RulkezX

All tabs in the game section are full screen when highlighted.

My PS3 doesn't boot to this screen either.

So many little things irrationally annoy people , can you imagine if the controller had a light on top ? :)

It highlights this ad by default. I can't believe people trying to justify such practices, it's unacceptable since you don't get this crappy deal in US. And the way Sony handled it was old style super arrogant Sony. Insert disc, opt in for "What's new". How about they give a fucking option to hide it.
Metalmurphy
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(11-04-2013, 11:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Derpcrawler

I buy mostly digital. Plus disc keep spinning whenever you a launch ANY app or game.

It does? I've been playing mostly PS+ games and I never noticed this.
Derpcrawler
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(11-04-2013, 11:27 AM)

Originally Posted by Metalmurphy

It does? I've been playing mostly PS+ games and I never noticed this.

It does for 5 mins or so, same on 360. I don't know what's the purpose of that.
Balboa
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(11-04-2013, 11:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Derpcrawler

I buy mostly digital. Plus disc keep spinning whenever you a launch ANY app or game.



It highlights this ad by default. I can't believe people trying to justify such practices, it's unacceptable since you don't get this crappy deal in US. And the way Sony handled it was old style super arrogant Sony. Insert disc, opt in for "What's new". How about they give a fucking option to hide it.

I agree, being presented by a fullscreen Singstar ad everytime you turn your console on is unacceptable no matter how people try to spin it. You don't even have to be signed in to the PSN it's always there so nobody can say it's okay because you get ads on a free service, I'm not even using the service and I'm getting ads.
Tevious
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(11-04-2013, 11:29 AM)
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Doesn't show up for me. The free month offer is in the What's New area and when I click on the "My Channels" icon, though. It had better stay that way.

Has it been established how people are getting the Redbox app installed by force? Is it PS+ or are people clicking the Free Month ad or something?

I'm located in South Korea. I have a US purchased PS3 and a US PSN account. My PS3 is hooked up to my VPN router with a US IP address. Aside from my time zone settings, there's no reason the PS3 shouldn't think I was in the US. I have System Software version 4.50. I'm not PS+ right now. So... I don't know what criteria they're using to determine who gets this.

I still have the option to delete any of the services and I recall installing Crunchyroll once and then deleting it with no problem. So I don't know what's up with the person who couldn't delete Amazon Instant Video.
X05
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(11-04-2013, 01:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Trojita

I didn't even download the thing and it's in my video services. Okay whatever, but it is much wider than any of the other icons.

OCDDDDDDDDDDD

If you download it you get the proper square icon.

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