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PS4: Standby or Power down?
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KennyLinder
Member
Xbox One is 15w btw (well the dev kit is which is the same).
Captain Tuttle
Member
standby 4 life
A Watt is a measure of energy (in Joules) used per second.
That's like $72/year to just leave it in standby.
KennyLinder
Member
KennyLinder
Member
Oh really? Isn't there one online?
And we're done here. I don't have my console yet, but there's no way I'm leaving it on idle 24/7 if it's going to be like that. Waiting 10 or 20 more seconds every time I want to play is not going to kill me.
Cornbread78
Member
how long to boot from standby? Is it VITA fast?
KennyLinder
Member
I wonder if they calculated the WORST case for standby?
As in downloading something, so the machine turned on for 5 minutes or whatever (like to sync Trophies and patches etc).
Just... can't be true lol.
As in downloading something, so the machine turned on for 5 minutes or whatever (like to sync Trophies and patches etc).
Just... can't be true lol.
Pretty damn fast. A few seconds.
They have a seperate figure for standby while downloading.
Or perhaps it was installing a game from disc still? Very strange otherwise... Though you'd hear that.
we.are.the.armada
Member
When I shut it off the first time it gave me the option - does it give the option each time you turn it off? That'd be cool.
I wonder if the PS4 was doing something while they put it in standby. Maybe it was installing something or updating a game.
Just doesnt seem right. Somebody should start a new thread so we can get this clear up.
Why have the extra arm chip? At 70W you can almost just leave the system power. No way someone can say that is a "low-power" state.
Just doesnt seem right. Somebody should start a new thread so we can get this clear up.
Why have the extra arm chip? At 70W you can almost just leave the system power. No way someone can say that is a "low-power" state.
KennyLinder
Member
Xbox One tells you how much power it uses (you choose this when setting machine up)
Full Standby (0.5w)
Suspend Standby (15w)
Full Standby (0.5w)
Suspend Standby (15w)
Obscene Jester
Banned
70W ???
That standby be broken.
That standby be broken.
XB1 doesnt have extra ARM chip on it.
Yeah it gives the option every time.
McHuj
Member
An extra ARM would never consume 70W+. The ARM SOC is probably on the order of 1-2W. The only way they're getting 70W is if the main SOC is on.
IMO, it's probably a bug in the OS that's not suspending it correctly. I'd expect that to get fixed with a future firmware patch.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I power it off.
This is inexcusable. I hope it's not accurate.
Edit: Apparently it's not accurate. 10W is still to high in my opinion, though.
Camp Freddie
Member
Wow, I thought the XBone's 14W was high!
70W is absolutely ridiculous. That's enough to power a typical laptop.
Given that it apparently uses 80-90 W when idling, there's practically no power saving compared to just leaving it on 24/7.
I assume Ars must've made a mistake and that the console was doing some major background updating while they were taking the power readings.
PS4 gets around the EU law because "shut down" in PS4-speak meets the definition of "standby" in EU-law speak. I'm going to assume that it does use <1W when you've selected "shut down" and it's just listening for an "on" command.
In EU law it has to be possible to be possible to tell a device to consume less than a watt without having to physically disconnect it.
Out of interest, my 360 is set to continue downloading any pending files when I tell it to turn off. It goes into a low power mode with just the network and HDD remaining active, then shuts down completely when finished. Does anyone know the power consumed in that 'low power' setting?
Apparently, the WiiConnect listening-standby mode uses 9W. This has been criticised because an average Wii (unless WiiConnect is disabled) uses 97% of it's power while on standby (source:http://wpweb2.tepper.cmu.edu/ceic/pdfs/CEIC_11_01.pdf)
70W is absolutely ridiculous. That's enough to power a typical laptop.
Given that it apparently uses 80-90 W when idling, there's practically no power saving compared to just leaving it on 24/7.
I assume Ars must've made a mistake and that the console was doing some major background updating while they were taking the power readings.
PS4 gets around the EU law because "shut down" in PS4-speak meets the definition of "standby" in EU-law speak. I'm going to assume that it does use <1W when you've selected "shut down" and it's just listening for an "on" command.
In EU law it has to be possible to be possible to tell a device to consume less than a watt without having to physically disconnect it.
Out of interest, my 360 is set to continue downloading any pending files when I tell it to turn off. It goes into a low power mode with just the network and HDD remaining active, then shuts down completely when finished. Does anyone know the power consumed in that 'low power' setting?
Apparently, the WiiConnect listening-standby mode uses 9W. This has been criticised because an average Wii (unless WiiConnect is disabled) uses 97% of it's power while on standby (source:http://wpweb2.tepper.cmu.edu/ceic/pdfs/CEIC_11_01.pdf)
FasTriggeR
Banned
Guys, reread the article, it says 10w on standby.
CrunchyFrog
Member
You fucking kidding me. This is STILL behind a paywall? a feature which costs them literally nothing? Arbitrarily inconveniencing your customers is not a terribly good marketing strategy.
Ars technica updated. It's only 10W in standby, lol.
Yep. Freaked me out the first few times.
Well what's the point of standby then if it won't even keep the house warm this winter!?!??
Fucking Sony fail....
Not sure about off, but standby PS button push to user select was like 5 seconds when I timed it earlier.
Oh ok that's a relief lol I thought mine had a PSU issue or something.
Always-honest
Banned
i was allready pissed that they removed the on/off swith from the PS3 in later models. i always turned it off on the Phat
speculawyer
Member
Power down. Don't waste that power. It costs money and pollutes the atmosphere.
My entire entertainment center is on a power strip that gets shut off when it is not in use. Yours should be too.
My entire entertainment center is on a power strip that gets shut off when it is not in use. Yours should be too.
Power down. Don't waste that power. It costs money and pollutes the atmosphere.
My entire entertainment center is on a power strip that gets shut off when it is not in use. Yours should be too.
Powering down a PS4 means you won't get the benefits of automatic updates. I hope you like making sandwiches.
speculawyer
Member
Whatever. I can wait a couple minutes.
I think what Vestal meant was that not using standby and turning on/off the system daily is harmful to the hardware.
Turning off and on the system is more harsh on it than leaving it in standby mode forever, unless I'm mistaken.
Check out the ArsTechnica thread. It draws 0.5W in standby unless it's downloading an update.
crazygambit
Member
Not really. Standby mode should use very little power.
How long does it take to wake up from standby? IIRC Xbone takes 13 seconds or so and the PS4 takes about 30 to start from a cold boot, but we don't know how fast it wakes up from standby. So could anyone test it out?
What?
It was designed to be in stand by mode, why would that shorten the life of your PS4....
10W isn't really very little. Should be 1W or less.