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Originally Posted by qq more

weird request but... is pichu a possibility?

Pichu would probably be one of the easiest additions for them. He's the cloniest clone.

Calling it now - Ice Climbers top tier.

Originally Posted by ActionRemix

Calling it now - Ice Climbers top tier.

duh

This is the greatest thing that has happened to smash Bros in over a decade. Good lord. Way to go project M team! You guys are doing an amazing job!

Originally Posted by ActionRemix

Calling it now - Ice Climbers top tier.

you should call Falco and Marth for top tier in both Project M and SSB4 with those bold predictions you're making there

I play this with my friends and they all like it, even if they don't play smash all that much. Project M keeps the game really accessible if you want to play it that way, but it overall makes the gameplay mechanics better with better balancing and no tripping. I don't know how to do advanced stuff like wavedashing and I still have a blast!

I'm not going to lie, while I enjoyed Project M for what it was, I used to have the impression (probably unwarranted) that the Project M Team arrogantly believed their version of Super Smash Bros. to be unequivocally and unquestionably superior to Nintendo's vision which irritated me quite a bit.

But wow, I'm legitimately impressed by everything that you guys have accomplished and I hope Sakurai really does take a long, hard look at this (which probably won't happen, but still).

How come this looks like it's HD? I thought it was based off of Brawl on the Wii?

Finally I have Olimar back, been playing peach/ZS but finally have my main back.
And the PM team did an amazing job with this mod, In the back of my mind the thought that smash 4 is probably not gunna live up to this makes me sort of sad.

Wow. I sincerely hope this doesn't end up being better than Smash 4. Some of the details they are nailing, but of course the same polish will never be there. But yeah the tweaks they have made are amazing, Samus and Kirby especially are so much more fun looking it's incredible.

Man, when can we get homebrew for Wii U?

Originally Posted by Silent_Ocarina

I'm not going to lie, while I enjoyed Project M for what it was, I used to have the impression (probably unwarranted) that the Project M Team arrogantly believed their version of Super Smash Bros. to be unequivocally and unquestionably superior to Nintendo's vision which irritated me quite a bit.

But wow, I'm legitimately impressed by everything that you guys have accomplished and I hope Sakurai really does take a long, hard look at this (which probably won't happen, but still).

The tripping and the extreme unbalance in Brawl is nigh inexcusable. It's not very hard to make something better than Brawl. It's hard to go to the lengths the Project M team did, though.

I'm wondering if Nintendo is going to do anything about the Project M team .

This looks incredible.

Can this be used on Dolphin? Also could I get other alt. costumes working on dolphin? Using texture mods and balance changes made me keep brawl for so long and project M might just make it my go to fighter.

Originally Posted by TheCongressman1

Wow. I sincerely hope this doesn't end up being better than Smash 4. Samus, and Kirby especially, are so much more fun looking it's incredible.

Man, when can we get homebrew for Wii U?

What happens if it IS better than Smash 4 tho? Would the competitive people just stick with Project M? I know it wont go and really hurt the sales of Smash 4 or anything but I am curious how that would go down for competitive people.

Originally Posted by MisterAnderson

How come this looks like it's HD? I thought it was based off of Brawl on the Wii?

You can run it using Dolphin, though I'm not positive everything would work perfectly.

Originally Posted by DedValve

This looks incredible.

Can this be used on Dolphin? Also could I get other alt. costumes working on dolphin? Using texture mods and balance changes made me keep brawl for so long and project M might just make it my go to fighter.

Yes to all your questions, I think there's some tutorials on how to get it working on Dolphin on youtube/Google (don't have the links on me right now).

Originally Posted by Delio

What happens if it IS better than Smash 4 tho? Would the competitive people just stick with Project M? I know it wont go and really hurt the sales of Smash 4 or anything but I am curious how that would go down for competitive people.

Everyone would move on to Smash for and the diehards would go back to whatever version they love the most, just like what happened with Melee after Brawl came out.

Originally Posted by Delio

What happens if it IS better than Smash 4 tho? Would the competitive people just stick with Project M? I know it wont go and really hurt the sales of Smash 4 or anything but I am curious how that would go down for competitive people.

4 will just be another game that's part of the community. Every smash game is played competitively, even brawl.

But there will always be people that will stick to/prefer melee/PM

Originally Posted by Delio

What happens if it IS better than Smash 4 tho? Would the competitive people just stick with Project M? I know it wont go and really hurt the sales of Smash 4 or anything but I am curious how that would go down for competitive people.

They'll probably just continue playing Melee...

It would be a dream come true if Smash 4 brings back that kind of solid gameplay.

Originally Posted by Alchemy

Its pure fucking madness how much better this is than anything Sakurai has made. Hire these mother fuckers Nintendo! DO IT!

Dont say dumb shit like this considering they are using one of his games as a base and another as the template.

Oh my god, it's beautiful. We need to get all the folks from the Smash 4 thread in here to see this shit.

I was trying to plan another Project M night with some friends when Metaknight was released, but never quite got around to it. It looks like now is the time instead.

I was not expecting ALL the remaining Brawl characters either. Christmas is coming early this year folks.

Originally Posted by Revven

Yes to all your questions, I think there's some tutorials on how to get it working on Dolphin on youtube/Google (don't have the links on me right now).

sweeeeeet.

The difference between graphics in wii and dolphin is so ridiculous.

So good! I'm so happy we have Project M Tourneys over here.

Originally Posted by The Lamp

I'm wondering if Nintendo is going to do anything about the Project M team .

Nintendo only goes after fangames that ask for money.

Would love to play this, but nobody to play against. I know there's netplay via Dolphin but I read it's laggy as shit when I last did some research. FWPs. :(

Originally Posted by The Lamp

The tripping and the extreme unbalance in Brawl is nigh inexcusable. It's not very hard to make something better than Brawl. It's hard to go to the lengths the Project M team did, though.

I'm wondering if Nintendo is going to do anything about the Project M team .

From what I know they have permission from Nintendo to do the mod as long as they don't make money from it.

This looks good. Genuinely interested in trying it.

My Olimar! :'D

All the characters look phenomenal thus far. Christmas is coming early this year!

Holy shit, can't wait to try this out. After how ass samus is in brawl, it's good to have my old melee main back.

Excellent! I can't wait to try this out! My friends and I will definitely be playing this over vanilla Brawl permanently, now that all of the Brawl characters are back.

Can't wait to try out Mewtwo, Roy, Samus, and Ice Climbers! No one can replace my Zero Suit though. <3

Yeah, some of these changes are really, really cool.

Originally Posted by Berordn

Pichu would probably be one of the easiest additions for them. He's the cloniest clone.

While true, they'd try to declone him and actually make him a viable character, surely.

Originally Posted by Hello.

While true, they'd try to declone him and actually make him a viable character, surely.

Give him faster tilts, make him more powerful than Pikachu, fatten up his fsmash hitbox, double self-inflicted damage.

I don't have much to add other than it looks really fucking fun.

The increased speed and weightiness of the characters adds a lot.

Holy shit you can swap Samus's beams?! HYPE

Originally Posted by Xav

I played Project M at a friend's house and I hated it, it turned Smash Bros into some tournament obsessed game which goes against the whole point of the series. I did however appreciate some of the changes it brought with it such as the increased speed, Melee physics and the removal of tripping. With that said, Samus does look pretty hype in Project M 3.0.

You get the hell outta here.



HYPEEEEE

Wow

That's literally all I could say after seeing the release date trailer. This looks do awesome! Getting a Wii U for Christmas, wondering if PM works on Wii U or if I have to keep my wii just for this game? This really will tide me over for smash 4 and although I do have some of those reservations that have already been mentioned like hopefully this doesn't surpass smash 4's awesomeness I think I will be able to enjoy them equally as seperate games

wow, finally i can battle ivysaur versus roy

Wow, this is one of the best trailers I've seen for any game. The Project M guys have completely outdone themselves, again.

Originally Posted by voltronbadA

Wow

That's literally all I could say after seeing the release date trailer. This looks do awesome! Getting a Wii U for Christmas, wondering if PM works on Wii U or if I have to keep my wii just for this game? This really will tide me over for smash 4 and although I do have some of those reservations that have already been mentioned like hopefully this doesn't surpass smash 4's awesomeness I think I will be able to enjoy them equally as seperate games

I believe it'll work on the Wii U, but you'll lose Gamecube controller support.

I would do long sessions of vanilla Brawl with other players and while it was super fun, I always wanted things to be more hectic, crazy, and fast like Melee. Even in it's earlier stages, Project M delivers the goods and it's great for anyone who likes Smash.

I'm also happy to see that the Wii scene is still alive, and I hope this has players coming from out of the woodwork. HYPE.

So good.

Playing the fuck out of this.

Originally Posted by KHlover

The characters are awesome, but their stages suck. The new Pikmin stage is a big grey block with two leaf platforms, the new Norfair is Battlefield with a new background. I understand they try to keep the stages tournament legal, but copying the layout of a different stage from the same game can't be the answer..

Time to mod the mod after release...

I wouldn't characterize them as "sucking", but it's certainly a different approach. IIRC it's easy enough to revert to vanilla Brawl stages while keeping everything else. I have not taken the time to figure it out exactly though.

The only stage I really miss from vanilla is Warioware with the ridiculous micro games. I was hoping the P:M team would make a pass over it to make it even better (maybe more frequent microgames :D ?) but they opted for a more neutral approach instead... which is fine, but at some point I need to get in there and try reverting that one.

My first Smash Bros. was Brawl so playing Project M was fantastic for me since Brawl felt slow after. me and some friends would play it almost every week and it just became a little thing we used to do. Is it weird that I definitely prefer it to Melee aswell after trying both?

Originally Posted by Tooi

My first Smash Bros. was Brawl so playing Project M was fantastic for me since Brawl felt slow after. me and some friends would play it almost every week and it just became a little thing we used to do. Is it weird that I definitely prefer it to Melee aswell after trying both?

No, that's understandable. Much more stages, characters, items etc. with improved graphics.

Definitely worth looking forward to.

Still not a fan of the new stages though. But I'm sure there's probably a way to keep the old ones via tinkering with the files or something.

Originally Posted by Tooi

Is it weird that I definitely prefer it to Melee aswell after trying both?

Not at all, Brawl has great stages, a huge roster, and a large soundtrack that covers a bunch of genres, physics and netcode gripes aside.

On an unrelated note, what possessed Nintendo to not include Ethernet on the Wii and Wii U? I don't trust Wi-Fi when I want to have long stable games.
What we have here is a photo of me buying a Wii LAN Adapter.

Originally Posted by Alchemy

Its pure fucking madness how much better this is than anything Sakurai has made. Hire these mother fuckers Nintendo! DO IT!

Are you stupid? lol

God, I'm excited for this. It's going to be swell for competitive gaming.

This is incredible. When Project M began I used to just think that some people had their heads too far up Melee's ass, but over time I realized I can't knock these guys for their tremendous effort and passion. They do bring a lot of cool ideas to the table, and kudos to them for making them happen.

Now I think someone in the Smash 4 thread said you could now play this without modding your Wii... That made me excited. Is that correct?

Originally Posted by TheOGB

This is incredible. When Project M began I used to just think that some people had their heads too far up Melee's ass, but over time I realized I can't knock these guys for their tremendous effort and passion. They do bring a lot of cool ideas to the table, and kudos to them for making them happen.

Now I think someone in the Smash 4 thread said you could now play this without modding your Wii... That made me excited. Is that correct?

There is a completely hackless version available. It's the set I use. The only set up it requires is an SD card, and deleting all custom stages you might have saved in Brawl. The mod takes over from there.