• Register
  • TOS
  • Privacy
  • @NeoGAF

shinobi602
(11-20-2013, 04:58 PM)
shinobi602's Avatar

Speaking to Edge about the ease in which the studio achieved results when working on the Xbox One and PS4, Trottier said: "The new platforms are a lot closer to PC, so my engineers could do the R&D on PC and we knew it would work fairly easily on next-gen platforms. It needed to be adapted, but everything does.

"It's always a question of compromise about the effect, how it looks, and the performance it takes from the system. On PC, usually you don't really care about the performance, because the idea is that if it's not [running] fast enough, you buy a bigger GPU. Once you get on console, you can't have this approach."

Videogamer via EDGE Issue 261
Alec2DaBreen
Member
(11-20-2013, 04:58 PM)
Alec2DaBreen's Avatar
lolwut

'Buy a bigger GPU' is not my approach to PC gaming,
Zomba13
Member
(11-20-2013, 04:59 PM)
Zomba13's Avatar
Yeah, I guess I'll ditch my 780 and grab three 780ti in SLI or something.
PandaPedinte
Member
(11-20-2013, 04:59 PM)
PandaPedinte's Avatar
Oh Ubisoft...
MRORANGE
Member
(11-20-2013, 04:59 PM)
MRORANGE's Avatar
So how many titans will I need to run the next Assassins Creed game?
jacksepticeye
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:00 PM)
jacksepticeye's Avatar
Read: "our games run badly"
gngf123
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:00 PM)
gngf123's Avatar
That's not the idea at all you morons.
Pie Lord
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:00 PM)
Pie Lord's Avatar
This is why I don't trust most developers when it comes to PC ports.
bdouble
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:00 PM)
Wow these types of views and comments just solidify that most of these companies have no clue about the PC market and why Valve is widening thr gap.
Nabs
(11-20-2013, 05:00 PM)
Nabs's Avatar
Now it all makes sense.
Labombadog
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:01 PM)
Labombadog's Avatar
Oh Ubi so silly.
grenuttag
Junior Member
(11-20-2013, 05:01 PM)
grenuttag's Avatar
Work harder, not smarter!
Glass Rebel
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:01 PM)
Glass Rebel's Avatar
I have no idea what I've been doing for the last 14 years.
Dibbz
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:02 PM)
Dibbz's Avatar
hahahahahhahahahaha

fucking wat
Cizeta-Moroder
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:02 PM)
I didn't really think they'd say it out loud.
Odrion
The reasons were sound.
(11-20-2013, 05:02 PM)
Odrion's Avatar

Originally Posted by gngf123

That's not the idea at all you morons.

It's the idea to have if you don't want to spend any money optimizing your game!
kazebyaka
Banned
(11-20-2013, 05:02 PM)
Well, he isn't wrong per se. The game will definitely run better with better rig. But it's still not an excuse for bad ports.
Pops Maellard
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:02 PM)
Pops Maellard's Avatar

Originally Posted by jacksepticeye

Read: "our games run badly"

.
TheCloud
Banned
(11-20-2013, 05:02 PM)
lol

And suddenly everything was clear.
RPG_Fanatic
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:02 PM)
RPG_Fanatic's Avatar
Facepalm.
Really Ubisoft, really.

I guess Ubisoft is saying I should stay clear of their PC games then.
BitStyle
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:03 PM)
BitStyle's Avatar
Yeah! Fuck optimization...
smh

How about you put that bit of extra effort in, eh Ubisoft?
chickdigger802
Banned
(11-20-2013, 05:03 PM)
chickdigger802's Avatar
And the irony is that AC4 is getting shit performance because of the cpu not really gpu.
DangerStepp
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:03 PM)
DangerStepp's Avatar
Haha!

Paging Dennis.

Dennis to the Ubisoft/AC4 bigger GPU thread, please.
Off-Kilter
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:03 PM)
Off-Kilter's Avatar
I... what
dampflokfreund
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:03 PM)
dampflokfreund's Avatar
Laughable and poor.
AHA-Lambda
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:03 PM)
AHA-Lambda's Avatar
Well this explains a lot.

Watch Dogs will be a pos on pc I'm assuming too
Damian.
Banned
(11-20-2013, 05:03 PM)
Except that with Ubi games, you can buy the biggest GPU setup allowed and still have subpar performance because their devs are fucking incompetent and haven't ventured past coding for a Core2Duo system.
Can Crusher
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:04 PM)
Can Crusher's Avatar
Kid needs a show on Comedy Central.
BlackJet
Junior Member
(11-20-2013, 05:04 PM)
BlackJet's Avatar

It's always a question of compromise about the effect, how it looks, and the performance it takes from the system. On PC, usually you don't really care about the performance, because the idea is that if it's not [running] fast enough, you buy a bigger GPU.

Sure Ubisoft, if that makes you sleep better at night. If I didn't care about performance, I would just buy a console.
KarmaCow
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:04 PM)
KarmaCow's Avatar
That's fine, if I ever want to buy a Ubisoft game I'll buy them a bigger discount to compensate.
eot
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:04 PM)
eot's Avatar

Originally Posted by Zomba13

Yeah, I guess I'll ditch my 780 and grab three 780ti in SLI or something.

I've heard worse ideas
MutonCommander
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:04 PM)
MutonCommander's Avatar
Guys, I don't think we should misinterpret what they're saying. They're simply pointing out that on consoles the developer has to cut back visuals in order to get the game running decently, while on PC this decision is left in the gamer's hands. The developer provides options and the gamer decides if he wants to drop settings of upgrade if his hardware is not strong enough. It's not controversial at all and there is no need for any outrage.
Hermii
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:05 PM)
Hermii's Avatar

Originally Posted by chickdigger802

And the irony is that AC4 is getting shit performance because of the cpu not really gpu.

Thats strange when the next consoles has a weak cpu compare to most PCs.
CozMick
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:05 PM)
CozMick's Avatar
Isnt this how its always been as a pc gamer?

Low fps on newly released game? Upgrade!!! Ta da.
hwateber
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:05 PM)
With the PC performance woes of AC4 and the recently released ps4 patch, I think now is a good time to remove it from the shrink wrap
ChaoticPotion
Junior Member
(11-20-2013, 05:05 PM)
ChaoticPotion's Avatar
I'm so confused... Are they really that clueless?

Not that any setup in the world could run their unoptimised pieces of shit.
Crimsonsky
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:05 PM)
Obviously this is how it's done. I've been wrong all this time. That 545 dollar card I bought near the beginning of the year? Garbage. Time to discard it and buy a "Bigger" one.
morningbus
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:06 PM)
morningbus's Avatar
Binabik15
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:06 PM)
Binabik15's Avatar
AH HA HA HA HA...HA HA...ha?


I thought we had left those dark times of buying a new GPU for a new game behind us. And even back then, those games were usually doing new and exiting things, not unpolished multiplatform ports.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
(11-20-2013, 05:06 PM)
Phoenician_Viking's Avatar
WTF is Ubisoft´s problem with the PC? They make all kind of excuses to not put games on PC, and then when they do, they make shitty ass ports. Fuck off Ubisoft.
hoserx
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:06 PM)
hoserx's Avatar

Originally Posted by Crimsonsky

Obviously this is how it's done. I've been wrong all this time. That 545 dollar card I bought near the beginning of the year? Garbage. Time to discard it and buy a "Bigger" one.

yes. If your card is 11", you need a 12-13" card. It doesnt even have anything to do with the power of the GPU on that card. Just size.
RedSwirl
Junior Member
(11-20-2013, 05:06 PM)
RedSwirl's Avatar
I think we need to remember that a lot of these guys: EA, Ubisoft, Take Two, Rockstar, etc., are mainly console developers and have almost always been. They aren't native to the PC like Bethesda, iD, Epic, IW, Crytek, and Valve are, though EA does have PC-native teams under it like BioWare and DICE.
Damian.
Banned
(11-20-2013, 05:07 PM)

Originally Posted by MutonCommander

Guys, I don't think we should misinterpret what they're saying. They're simply pointing out that on consoles the developer has to cut back visuals in order to get the game running decently, while on PC this decision is left in the gamer's hands. The developer provides options and the gamer decides if he wants to drop settings of upgrade if his hardware is not strong enough. It's not controversial at all and there is no need for any outrage.

It's controversial since he is speaking in terms that his company doesn't work with. Terms like "optimized". Optimized games can scale with greater hardware. Ubi games hit a wall and can never get past a certain point no matter how much power you throw at it. Hollow statements from a hideously hollow company.
Leks
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:07 PM)
Leks's Avatar
Oh Ubisoft...

With Uplay, usually we don't really care about the issues and the optimisation, because the idea is that if you can't run our games, we'll never fix it.
Thrakier
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:07 PM)
Explains a lot. Horrible, horrible company.
mjontrix
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:07 PM)
mjontrix's Avatar

Originally Posted by Damian.

Except that with Ubi games, you can buy the biggest GPU setup allowed and still have subpar performance because their devs are fucking incompetent and haven't ventured past coding for a Core2Duo system.

Think you're giving them too much credit xD

it's going to end up being a compiler flag thing just like Skyrim...

Still won't fix the multicore issues but it's a start.
Mr. Poolman
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:07 PM)
Mr. Poolman's Avatar
Does this guy even own a PC?
vocab
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:08 PM)
vocab's Avatar
Quad sli or bust

Seriously UBI? People outside of enthusiast's do not just buy a bigger GPU.
Last edited by vocab; 11-20-2013 at 05:10 PM.
Mesoian
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:08 PM)
Mesoian's Avatar
Jesus Christ Ubisoft...why would you ever say that to a reporter?

Might as well admit to the world that you don't employ competent programmers.

Buying a bigger GPU doesn't even solve AC4's problems.

Just...wow.
daninthemix
Member
(11-20-2013, 05:08 PM)
daninthemix's Avatar
I want to slap him with my duellin' glove.

Thread Tools