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maverick40
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(11-21-2013, 06:23 PM)
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So Cliff Bleszinski just posted this link from his twitter profile. Intersting read I think.

The article is from a website called FuriousFanboys.com (I am not kidding)

This article was written by Jeremy Conrad, former IGN editor.



So yesterday’s little Twitter kerfluffle between Polygon’s Editor and Chief and myself pretty much exploded. A lot of people have complained about me calling the guy a liar, however someone edited together an awesome Youtube video containing the actual comments by Polygon spliced with ownage in the form of a video showing Xbox One and PS4 voice commands as well as my video of the remote with the PS4. When viewed in context you can see that they were willfully lying about one console to help the other. The video will be embedded at the end of this article.
And there’s a reason why Polygon does that.
Lets start back at the beginning of the site. When the site launched, an innane self-fellating documentary about Polygon was created to introduce the site to the Internet. It was naturally done with their soft-light filming, which is probably due to whoever makes their stuff watching a few too many X-Art videos. But the big thing about this documentary is that it was funded by Microsoft to the tune of $750,000.
Ask any Polygon staffer about this on Twitter and they’ll snark back to you saying you don’t know what you’re talking about and then block you, but Arthur Gies admitted to it when asked and that Tweet is preserved forever:



Why would a seemingly neutral site do this? Well it’s a two pronged reason. The first reason is because of Vox Media, the company that owns Polygon, is run by a self-admitted Xbox fanboy. Here is just a selection of his Tweets from over the last year:













Remember, this is the guy who owns Polygon.
The second reason is because Polygon is “respected” enough that they can affect Metacritic scores with their reviews. Jason Schreier at Kotaku did an amazing job pointing out just how important Metacritic is to the gaming industry and how the whole thing pretty much revolves around the review aggregate site. By “pooh poohing” a non-MS platform and praising the Xbox, Polygon can positively affect Microsoft’s Metacritic scores and make Vox’s CEO happy, after all he’s the one signing their paychecks.
Polygon gave the PS4 a 7.5, and spent 12 hours trying to convince people it wasn’t worth buying because of no good games. People went out and bought 1 million systems anyways.
The same site gave the Xbox One an 8, and then spent 12 hours demonstrating a system that didn’t resemble their gushing review in any way. Towards the end of their stream, they even ditched Kinect controls for the controller because it was seriously making Kinect look bad.
As for the video I mentioned earlier, here it is. Again, when viewing their comments in context, it makes it very clear they were intentionally mis-leading (i.e. lying to) their viewers about the PS4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-IXV7SG26E


Last edited by maverick40; 11-21-2013 at 06:28 PM.
Deadly Cyclone
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(11-21-2013, 06:24 PM)
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Wait, Cliff's brother owns Polygon?
Geek
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(11-21-2013, 06:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone

Wait, Cliff's brother owns Polygon?

No. He does not.

He is a founder of SB Nation and Vox Media though!
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(11-21-2013, 06:25 PM)
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keit4
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/facepalm
strafer
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Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone

Wait, Cliff's brother owns Polygon?

Wait, Cliff has a brother?
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Kensairabbit37
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dis gonna be gud.
BanGy.nz
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(11-21-2013, 06:25 PM)
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Ugh, another one of these threads.
kadotsu
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(11-21-2013, 06:25 PM)
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Cliffy B has finally mastered the art of by proxy trolling.
Cow Goes Moo
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(11-21-2013, 06:26 PM)
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Mm hope this doesn't get locked before it gets good
Wario64
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(11-21-2013, 06:26 PM)
TIL: Cliffy's brother is the founder of Vox Media
KINGofCRA5H
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(11-21-2013, 06:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by kadotsu

Cliffy B has finally mastered the art of by proxy trolling.

SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKERS
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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Polysoft sounds like a 1980s Japanese game dev, specializing in bad side-scrolling shooters.
jooey
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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over a fucking remote.
Empty
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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i don't understand how manabyte became a voice people cared about
BitStyle
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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I think Cliff might be trolling us into a large GAF reaction.
I mean, I do think there is a Microsoft bias present in some of the Polygon staff, but mainly from usual suspects like Geis.
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chadskin
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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The article on FuriousFanboys.com is written by Jeremy Conrad, former IGN editor, by the way.
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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Inb4 the lies and secrets, secrets and lies.
mcrommert
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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hahahah...oh man this is good...it may be time to chill out
ambar_hitman
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The History of Polygon - The Worst Gaming Journalists Around

http://www.accelerated-ideas.com/new...ts-around.aspx
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KINGofCRA5H
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by chadskin

The article on FuriousFanboys.com is written by Jeremy Conrad, former IGN editor, by the way.

the plot thickens
Horsemama1956
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(11-21-2013, 06:27 PM)
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Video game sites are run by NERDS. What do you expect? I stopped visiting sites like that years ago. Forums give more than enough news, especially since I don't really follow gaming all that much, just play games
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(11-21-2013, 06:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone

Wait, Cliff's brother owns Polygon?

Its the circle of life.
Wario64
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(11-21-2013, 06:28 PM)

Originally Posted by chadskin

The article on FuriousFanboys.com is written by Jeremy Conrad, former IGN editor, by the way.

Banned NeoGAFfer, btw
Karish
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(11-21-2013, 06:28 PM)
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Lock this thread. An abomination. This forum used to be great.
PaulExcellent
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Huh.
Well, I reeeeeally want to know more.

Already hate Polygon, anyways.
aquamala
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(11-21-2013, 06:28 PM)
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another thread of biased people complaining a site is biased
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GregLombardi
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I'm shocked. More work like this should be done about various sites.
Deadly Cyclone
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(11-21-2013, 06:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wario64

TIL: Cliffy's brother is the founder of Vox Media

Had no idea.

Also, to be on topic. Polygon is where I go for features mainly. Their feature section is pretty awesome. For reviews I've never really been on board. I do think people freak out over scores too much, though, and not enough people actually read the review to see if it contains solid reasoning (i.e. Last of Us review).
pureIsometric
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(11-21-2013, 06:28 PM)
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Polygon has lost all credibility!!
Vince McMahon
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(11-21-2013, 06:28 PM)
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This is a serious stretch though. Nothing concrete. I'm no fan of Polygon but it's all really tenuous.

EDIT: Oh, Manabyte. I think I remember his last thread on gaf. I think.
TheSeks
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(11-21-2013, 06:28 PM)
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I thought this was known when the $750,000 documentary happened.

You can't trust anything Polygon says won't have a MS tint to it. Just like Slate or whatever that one site MS has as well.
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LycanXIII
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(11-21-2013, 06:29 PM)
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That's ManaByte's site.
Orca
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(11-21-2013, 06:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by chadskin

The article on FuriousFanboys.com is written by Jeremy Conrad, former IGN editor, by the way.

Former Sony employee as well.

That never gets mentioned.
maverick40
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(11-21-2013, 06:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by chadskin

The article on FuriousFanboys.com is written by Jeremy Conrad, former IGN editor, by the way.

Updated, cheers.
TheCloud
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(11-21-2013, 06:29 PM)
Why are fucks being given about this?
entrement
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Originally Posted by chadskin

The article on FuriousFanboys.com is written by Jeremy Conrad, former IGN editor, by the way.

Yeah. Dude is a huge partisan. Good looking out.
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(11-21-2013, 06:29 PM)
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i've been waiting for a thread like this for weeks! Time for some speed reading.
Pai Pai Master
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(11-21-2013, 06:29 PM)
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trying way too hard
TriGen
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(11-21-2013, 06:29 PM)
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Oh boy.
marrec
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(11-21-2013, 06:30 PM)
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So people didn't know about the 750k docu?
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(11-21-2013, 06:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Geek

No. He [CliffyB's brother] does not [own Polygon].

He is a founder of SB Nation and Vox Media though!

Oh REALLY? I had no idea about this and suddenly so much of the past 6 months' worth of Twitter defensing of every Microsoft misstep makes so much more sense. CliffyB's bizarre rants included.
jaypah
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(11-21-2013, 06:30 PM)
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A month ago I would have been in "dis gun b gud" mode. Now? I'm just starting to get numb to all of this. Another console launch has broken me. Womp womp.
mjc
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(11-21-2013, 06:30 PM)
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Oh jesus. Here we go again.
Nerokis
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(11-21-2013, 06:30 PM)
Conrad lost a lot of credibility in my eyes when he rushed to write an article calling Polygon liars. The line of thinking that goes, "Something incorrect was said. Someone lied. Hey, so why did you lie, you liar?" is typically reserved for political fanatics, and I found it surprising to see Conrad display it.

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