I've only played the BF4 demo but I agree BC2 was the best overall MP shooter of the generation. It was also really well and fully supported.Who cares about the humor. The GAMEPLAY is what mattered. BC2 is still the best Battlefield by a good green country mile from them in the past five or six years simply because of the gameplay.
DICE just doesn't get it when it comes to story and what's amazing is that after all these games and feedback they just aren't getting better. They keep on making the same mistakes.
DICE have been most successful when they focus on gameplay. The re-skinning of BC2 with Vietnam was inspired. No other developer goes that far. also 1942 was a monster success because that gameplay was just about perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA9581o27uA
Bad Company felt very Battlefield, and it knew it was ridiculous.
Ask Insomniac's Overstrike/Fuse team how changing their initial internal designs to the whims of the focus groups worked out for them.
Wish there was more like that.
Not only that, all they want is the same damn thing over and over again. They literally squeeze all the personality and energy out of games. If they kill the humor in BC, then BC is literally pointless because the mainline series already does that.Focus groups wanting grittier, more serious tones in their shooters. Fuck them.
Ask Insomniac's Overstrike/Fuse team how changing their initial internal designs to the whims of the focus groups worked out for them.
Such a shame they won't be able to recreate something like it :(
Up there in my few all time favorite games, played and got max rank on Xbox 360 and PS3 for multiplayer, tremendous fun.
The Bad Company 2 mutliplayer is the best multiplayer at least out of the last three games in the series (BC2, BF3, BF4). The guns felt the best and there was actual destructibility.Originally Posted by Wthermans
Bad Company had forgettable single player and some of the smallest BF Multiplayer in the franchises history. It pissed off gamers who we're wanting BF3 and the scale of early BF games. The fact they wasted time on console exclusives just pissed off PC gamers who were their primary fan base up to that point.
Not surprising that DICE just doesn't get it.
Actually, isn't that the entire selling point of the games? Keep the multiplayer serious, I don't care. I don't particularly like how CODified it is, but if that's what makes it sell- fine. But I doubt anyone that enjoyed that game is demanding that they change the tone of it. Battlefield 3's singleplayer? Completely forgettable, uninspired rubbish. I think there was a war in not-Iran and earthquakes and then Russians and terrorists. Completely void of any personality, and it was universally hated. I just completed Battlefield 4's campaign two days ago, and while it was definitely a better experience than Battlefield 3, it was still lacking in both the story and gameplay.
I sincerely hope they're not taking what EA's focus groups say to heart. After all, if it weren't for them, I may've purchased Fuse.
The humor in Bad Company is the one thing that actually made me give a shit about Battlefield. I haven't played one in the series since they took it out. I got Battlefield 4 because of the Buy 2, get 1 free deal at Target, and it's still sitting in its shrinkwrap. I'm going to see if I can exchange it for something else.
As I said before, the humor in BC was the one thing that I felt really set it apart from the bazillion other FPS games out at the time, and it was the main reason why I bothered to play it. Way to go, DICE. Focus testing rules!
BF3 success was build off the ground work put down by BC1 and 2 just like COD4 success was build on the 3 games that came before it, I seriously doubt BF3 would have been as successful as it was with out the BC games and if dice cant see that they are fools
Have to agree. BF3 and BF4 actually feel like a downgrade when compared to BC. Not only that but BC had some amazing maps that led to some really crazy shit happening, none of this forced ''only in Battlefield'' nonsense we get today but instead multiple moments of madness per match.Originally Posted by meanspartan
The Bad Company 2 mutliplayer is the best multiplayer at least out of the last three games in the series (BC2, BF3, BF4). The guns felt the best and there was actual destructibility.
I don't know if I want to live in a world where "gamers" don't want to play a shooter if it's not 'serious' enough for them, and where BF3 solo's story is not seen as the turd it rightfully is.
It's more the insanity that they believe that we hated the humor, when that is completely untrue. There are always going to be critics, but I don't ever remember someone being loud enough to make sure the humor has been slashed away. Humor can definitely help make games to be fun, more interactive in a way and can also help connect with the characters more.Originally Posted by FlyingSaucer
Bad Company 1 solo campaign was precisely great because of its humor (well, that, and the extensive levels which were great for giving a feeling of freedom).
I don't know if I want to live in a world where "gamers" don't want to play a shooter if it's not 'serious' enough for them, and where BF3 solo's story is not seen as the turd it rightfully is.
I bought bfbc1, bfbc2 w/ vietnam expansion, bf1943, and bf3 for my 360, and i have bf4 for xb1.
Give me fucking bad company 3 with extra humor piled in top!
For fuck sakes.
What's wrong with people?
Bad Company is one of the few big shooters with actual personality. Why the hell would you want to take that away to make it gritty?
NOT TO MENTION NOBODY PLAYS THOSE GAMES JUST FOR THE SINGLE PLAYER.
I was so disappointed they toned it down for BC2. But BC2 did sell much better...so maybe they have a point.
But BC2 was spot on, that shit made it different and the online was god tier.
You just think about that for a minute DICE. Your spin off multiplayer was better than your main franchise multiplayer.
Completely agree. BF3 paled in comparison to BC2 in almost every way when it came to gameplay. I haven't played enough of BF4 to make a judgement but I doubt it will either.Originally Posted by meanspartan
The Bad Company 2 mutliplayer is the best multiplayer at least out of the last three games in the series (BC2, BF3, BF4). The guns felt the best and there was actual destructibility.
i loved the humour is BC1.
i hated BC2.
.......what does that what?
I agree but that's not saying much...BC2 was when all of DICEs work started the downhill slide in regards to gameplay.Originally Posted by meanspartan
The Bad Company 2 mutliplayer is the best multiplayer at least out of the last three games in the series (BC2, BF3, BF4). The guns felt the best and there was actual destructibility.
There was a Bad Company 3?Bad Company is a worthless piece of shit, probably the most embaressing thing EA put out last gen (and that's saying something). Bad Company 2 is a MASSIVE improvement, even if you could see they were turning the series away from its roots (boo! hiss!) and into a Call of Duty competitor. It's a shame Bad Company 3 was a step sideways instead of improving on the strong foundation laid by BC2.
And holy hell I couldn't disagree more about BC1 - it was the best campaign Dice has made yet.
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