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chadskin · 04:23 PM

What a thing of beauty

It isn't a white PS4: it's a commercial Steam Machines box, or at least a prototype of one. iBuyPower tells us that it's building the box for a 2014 launch, but says it's still early.

iBuyPower tells us that it actually has two models, codenamed Gordon and Freeman, in the works. The two consoles are identical, save for the light bar round the middle -- one model's is clear, while the other's is black when not illuminated. And, while the company wouldn't tell us about the boxes' internals, it did confirm that the hardware will run all Steam titles in 1080p resolution at 60fps.

More pictures through Engadget

WhitePS4me if old.

Update:

2014
$499
multicore AMD CPU
discrete AMD Radeon R9 270 graphics card
Valve's Steam Controller
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
500GB hard drive
Valve's Linux-based Steam OS

Thanks angular graphics for the list, via The Verge.

Sinfamy · 06:39 AM

Reminds me of a dessert I used to eat, white chocolate covered wafers with strawberry cream filling.

markot · (11-26-2013, 02:28 AM)

That sure is ugly.

Valve shouldnt let them design the casing. Just look at most 'pc' players. Their casing and peripherals are things of pure awfulness.

Ysiadmihi · (11-26-2013, 02:28 AM)

And, while the company wouldn't tell us about the boxes' internals, it did confirm that the hardware will run all Steam titles in 1080p resolution at 60fps.

...right.

Just tell us what the hardware is.

Haines · (11-26-2013, 02:29 AM)

next gen still not finished launching? lol

Partial Gamification · (11-26-2013, 02:29 AM)

A ray of sunshine in a cloudy sky.

br3wnor · 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by chadskin

it did confirm that the hardware will run all Steam titles in 1080p resolution at 60fps.

Don't see how they can guarantee this for something that's launching next year

Originally Posted by Ysiadmihi

...right.

Just tell us what the hardware is.

Exactly.

jacobs34 · (11-26-2013, 02:30 AM)

Kind of looks like they are opening a box with a pink iPad inside.

drproton · (11-26-2013, 02:32 AM)

The two consoles are identical, save for the light bar round the middle

Seems like a shoddy reason for two skus.

Intheflorsh · (11-26-2013, 02:33 AM)

Not a fan of LED lights, so this would be a nightmare.

Glorified G · (11-26-2013, 02:33 AM)

it did confirm that the hardware will run all Steam titles in 1080p resolution at 60fps.

So Windows?

Htown · (11-26-2013, 02:34 AM)

Originally Posted by br3wnor

Don't see how they can guarantee this for something that's launching next year

Well they are kinda cheating because you can always alter video settings to make a game run better.

Also 1080p isn't a terribly difficult resolution for modern computer hardware.

RibbedHero · (11-26-2013, 02:34 AM)

What settings are required for the 1080p60 they claim? Console settings? Last-gen settings? Pretty meaningless claim to make.

sixteen-bit · (11-26-2013, 02:34 AM)

It looks like a sandwich

Herne · (11-26-2013, 02:34 AM)

Originally Posted by markot

That sure is ugly.

Valve shouldnt let them design the casing. Just look at most 'pc' players. Their casing and peripherals are things of pure awfulness.

Anyone who can build a pc will be able to build a Steam Machine, never mind companies like IBuyPower. If you don't like the look of one, get another. Why should Valve have any say in what anyone else builds?

And why did you put quotes around pc?

BPoole · (11-26-2013, 02:34 AM)

Interesting. I'm curious to see who else is on board for Valve's Steam Machines

Chavelo · (11-26-2013, 02:35 AM)

A little too simplistic, but I kinda like it.

Originally Posted by markot

That sure is ugly.

Valve shouldnt let them design the casing. Just look at most 'pc' players. Their casing and peripherals are things of pure awfulness.

lol this guy

Herne · (11-26-2013, 02:35 AM)

Originally Posted by Chavelo

lol this guy

That was pretty much my response, yeah.

BendingUnit · (11-26-2013, 02:35 AM)

So how many dollars? Yeah, don't want to talk about that.

BPoole · (11-26-2013, 02:36 AM)

Originally Posted by RibbedHero

What settings are required for the 1080p60 they claim? Console settings? Last-gen settings? Pretty meaningless claim to make.

If they're smart is has nothing less than a 7950 or 760ti

Kirosia · (11-26-2013, 02:36 AM)

I bet it's saying "FEED ME" in led morse code.

RS4- · (11-26-2013, 02:36 AM)

Originally Posted by Ysiadmihi

...right.

Just tell us what the hardware is.

Wouldn't matter if it can't play AC4 and Ghost at 1080/60!

TheSeks · (11-26-2013, 02:36 AM)

Seems kinda... large. Need to know the size dimensions.

Atilac · (11-26-2013, 02:37 AM)

Never did like iBuypower, always seemed shifty.

Damaniel · (11-26-2013, 02:37 AM)

And, while the company wouldn't tell us about the boxes' internals, it did confirm that the hardware will run all Steam titles in 1080p resolution at 60fps.

In other words, this is going to be a gaming PC that's nowhere near price competitive with consoles. To get 1080/60 on everything, you're probably going to need GTX 670/680 class hardware, at a minimum. At that point, you're at PS4 pricing before you even add a CPU, memory, motherboard, OS, or the custom enclosure. That doesn't even include a controller.

Steam Machines are going to be dead in the water unless vendors make more cost effective models. The people willing to spend $1000+ on gaming hardware probably build their own, and people buying consoles already aren't going to pay a 100% premium over current-gen console prices just to get a Steam machine.

(Hopefully, other vendors will tone down the hardware somewhat, and concentrate on bringing the systems closer to price parity with consoles -- or at least the same ballpark.)

Pizarro · (11-26-2013, 02:38 AM)

Would look 11x better in black. Shiny not matte.

TAJ · (11-26-2013, 02:38 AM)

Originally Posted by Glorified G

So Windows?

lol
Must be.

Originally Posted by BPoole

If they're smart is has nothing less than a 7950 or 760ti

I definitely wouldn't make that claim about those cards.

smr00 · (11-26-2013, 02:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Damaniel

In other words, this is going to be a gaming PC that's nowhere near price competitive with consoles. To get 1080/60 on everything, you're probably going to need GTX 670/680 class hardware, at a minimum. At that point, you're at PS4 pricing before you even add a CPU, memory, motherboard, OS, or the custom enclosure. That doesn't even include a controller.

Steam Machines are going to be dead in the water unless vendors make more cost effective models. The people willing to spend $1000+ on gaming hardware probably build their own, and people buying consoles already aren't going to pay a 100% premium over current-gen console prices just to get a Steam machine.

(Hopefully, other vendors will tone down the hardware somewhat, and concentrate on bringing the systems closer to price parity with consoles -- or at least the same ballpark.)

I can run everything at 1080p/60fps on my 660. Can i run it all maxed out? no, but neither can this. You only need to be able to run stuff on medium to compete with PS4/XBONE and a mid range card can do that.

Ingueferroque · (11-26-2013, 02:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Chavelo

A little too simplistic, but I kinda like it.

lol this guy

I think he makes a fair point.

Conkerkid11 · (11-26-2013, 02:39 AM)

Originally Posted by RS4-

Wouldn't matter if it can't play AC4 and Ghost at 1080/60!

AC4 isn't Steam though, it's uPlay.

Eusis · (11-26-2013, 02:40 AM)

Looks like someone tried to correct the PS4's slant. Then painted it.

Usobuko · (11-26-2013, 02:41 AM)

Looks bigger than Xbox One. I won't say it's uglier until I see the final product but I won't count it.

hwy_61 · (11-26-2013, 02:41 AM)

That is one ugly box.

Burning Vigor Attack · (11-26-2013, 02:41 AM)

Originally Posted by Eusis

Looks like someone tried to correct the PS4's slant. Then painted it.

I was thinking the same.

Damaniel · (11-26-2013, 02:42 AM)

Originally Posted by smr00

I can run everything at 1080p/60fps on my 660. Can i run it all maxed out? no, but neither can this. You only need to be able to run stuff on medium to compete with PS4/XBONE and a mid range card can do that.

That's true - if they advertise 1080p/60 for everything, but only at low to low-medium settings, then that would still count, and they could get away with more modest hardware. Said games would also look like higher-resolution 360/PS3 games at that point, once you account for the lower texture quality and lack of post processing effects.

Getting the balance right is going to be tricky. You don't want to release an obsolete box, but you need to keep it price competitive. An extra complication is the Windows license - until Valve gets more AAA PC titles running on Steam OS, Steam Machines are going to have to come with Windows installed, or they're going to be severely crippled. I'm not sure I trust iBuyPower to be the people to figure this out, but we'll just have to wait and see.

RoadHazard · (11-26-2013, 02:42 AM)

Originally Posted by smr00

You only need to be able to run stuff on medium to compete with PS4/XBONE and a mid range card can do that.

This crap will never die, right? Because so many PC games on medium settings look as good as KZSF...

Blur · (11-26-2013, 02:42 AM)

Originally Posted by br3wnor

Don't see how they can guarantee this for something that's launching next year

Exactly.

They already confirmed that Steam Machines will have:

Video Cards: GTX780, GTX770 and some will have GTX660.
Processor: i7-4770, i5-4570 and some will have i3s.
All models will come with 16GB DDR3-1600 RAM.
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid Drives.
Power: 450W 80Plus Gold power supply.

http://www.gizmag.com/steam-machine-prototype/29309/

params7 · (11-26-2013, 02:43 AM)

All games at 1080p/60fps? What price model are we looking at?

Black_Stride · (11-26-2013, 02:43 AM)

All Steam titles 1080@60?

With what settings huh, im sure most games will hit 60 if the settings are lowered to the absolute lowest.

TAJ · (11-26-2013, 02:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Conkerkid11

AC4 isn't Steam though, it's uPlay.

You can buy it through Steam.
Sure you have to go through UPlay to open it, but if it really does support all Steam games then it's Windows and that's no problem.

SapientWolf · (11-26-2013, 02:43 AM)

Originally Posted by markot

That sure is ugly.

Valve shouldnt let them design the casing. Just look at most 'pc' players. Their casing and peripherals are things of pure awfulness.

That's pretty damn tasteful, by PC gaming hardware standards. I mean, my rig has more lights than a Christmas tree.

I just wonder if the box is gonna have a demon or a half naked elf on it.

jeffers · (11-26-2013, 02:44 AM)

Originally Posted by Blur

They already confirmed that Steam Machines will have:

Video Cards: GTX780, GTX770 and some will have GTX660.
Processor: i7-4770, i5-4570 and some will have i3s.
All models will come with 16GB DDR3-1600 RAM.
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid Drives.
Power: 450W 80Plus Gold power supply.

http://www.gizmag.com/steam-machine-prototype/29309/

thats Valves - and beta only at that. several people will be making these with different customisations.

markot · (11-26-2013, 02:44 AM)

By "PC" players I mean the Razers and the kazers and the mazers who make 'Gamer!' peripherals that always look like the jankiest shit ever. From Cases to keyboards. Utter shit balls catering to PC gamers from the 80's that never existed. Or had such bad taste.

They have the Steam logo on it so I assume Valve would have some rights inclusive.

You dont put a ferrari logo on a fiat.

The last thing, in the entire universe, that anyone ever wants, is more lights and shit in their living room. Every freaking piece of electronics needs to have a light these days thats bright enough to lite up the room.

Get over it!

weekend_warrior · (11-26-2013, 02:44 AM)

It looks like they took the PS4 and Xbone, squished them together and painted it silver.

jediyoshi · (11-26-2013, 02:45 AM)

lol oh boy this mockup

not sure the person had a great sense for the size of the controller at that point :p

Originally Posted by Blur

They already confirmed that Steam Machines will have:

Video Cards: GTX780, GTX770 and some will have GTX660.
Processor: i7-4770, i5-4570 and some will have i3s.
All models will come with 16GB DDR3-1600 RAM.
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid Drives.
Power: 450W 80Plus Gold power supply.

http://www.gizmag.com/steam-machine-prototype/29309/

The specs aren't a standardized thing, that's part of the whole point

HarryDemeanor · (11-26-2013, 02:46 AM)

I like the design of this case. Looks pretty sleek.

By them saying it will support all Steam titles then it must run Windows then right? Unless they're banking on Linux support (in terms of games) being much farther along by the time this comes out.

Mr. Smiley · (11-26-2013, 02:46 AM)

.

Mrbob · (11-26-2013, 02:48 AM)

All titles 1080P/60FPS? Lol, ok. Rome 2 will break you.

Partial Gamification · (11-26-2013, 02:48 AM)

Originally Posted by markot

By "PC" players I mean the Razers and the kazers and the mazers who make 'Gamer!' peripherals that always look like the jankiest shit ever. From Cases to keyboards. Utter shit balls catering to PC gamers from the 80's that never existed. Or had such bad taste.

They have the Steam logo on it so I assume Valve would have some rights inclusive.

You dont put a ferrari logo on a fiat.

The last thing, in the entire universe, that anyone ever wants, is more lights and shit in their living room. Every freaking piece of electronics needs to have a light these days thats bright enough to lite up the room.

Get over it!

If its like my tower, I could just open it up and unplug the LEDs, maybe it will even come with a switch.

params7 · (11-26-2013, 02:50 AM)

Originally Posted by markot

That sure is ugly.

Valve shouldnt let them design the casing. Just look at most 'pc' players. Their casing and peripherals are things of pure awfulness.

Its ugly. But its the future of console industry. Open standards, open OS, unified platform for software makers, but many manufacturers of the hardware. Just like video and pc gaming business. Private console businesses will always be limited in their scope of games and features compared to a model like Steam Machine.

Depending on how accurately Steam Controller is able to level with the mouse, I think Sony and MS would most likely be releasing PS5 and Xbox 3 as their own Steam Machines.

I'll put down $10 on that here with someone.