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Dawg
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(11-27-2013, 11:05 AM)
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Traveller's Tales have a long history of making games. They used to make games like Sonic 3D, Puggsy, A Bug's Life, Muppet Racemania, Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex and a load of other stuff.

Something all of these games had in common was the fact they were mediocre at best. Back then, TT wasn't even a B-tier developer. They made crappy ports and moviegames. Some of them were ok, some of them were downright awful. I've played a few of their games (especially the crash games) and what they lacked was a lot of polish, better gameplay and, of course, soul. These were quick and dirty games that simply weren't that good. If anything, their best achievement back then was making games that were impressive on a technical level. Unfortunately, the games themselves were mainly uninspired and mediocre.

Maybe what they really lacked was a franchise to call their own?

The lego franchise gave them that. I still remember when the first Lego Star Wars game released on PS2. I've always been a lego fan so this was like a dream coming true for my PS2. It even had a tiny "sandbox" bar where you could purchase new characters and fight battles by simply shooting at a random minifigure in the bar. It was quite hilarious. The Star Wars IP helped a lot too, it was pretty much the perfect theme to start their LEGO franchise. The (now iconic) cutscenes were pretty hilarious for my younger self.

Of course, they still had a long way to go. They finally had a franchise that didn't only sell (very) good, but was also good. Still, the games still lacked something. They were great and funny, but also short and easy. I don't think the difficulty really changed all that much (their focus is still on children, even in 2013) but the length of the game was something that could be improved. It had personality though, from the minifigure humor to the "bizarre" puzzles that still exist in the newer games.

So yeah, TT knew they had a pretty good franchise on their hands. The publishers knew it too. So what do you do? You expand it with more movie IP's. Indiana Jones, Batman, Harry Potter, Pirates of The Caribbean... TT did it all.

Surprisingly, all of them were fun. The déjà vu feeling in some of them was strong, but (for me) IP's like Pirates of The Caribbean were brilliant. It might be a lego game, but it beats any other Pirates movie game out there. And it's the same for the other IP's. These games weren't trying to change the landscape, they simply did what they had to do: deliver a fun experience for children (and by now, adults too!). And every game always had something worth playing the entire game for: ships you could buy, secret endgame levels, many characters to purchase. TT knows what people want in a lego game.

Still, they had to do improve something to make the games even more interesting. The polish and fanservice were pretty great, but what could they add to make the game longer?

That's right, an entire open world "sandbox" for you to explore. The third generation of Lego Games was born, and it was great. This was lego fanservice at its best. Explore Gotham City. Explore Middle-Earth. Explore the Lego City! Wander around the Avengers Helicarrier and visit the Stark tower! Again, this is why the lego games are so much fun. They know what people want. These games are filled with personality, fanservice, humour and... fun. A huge difference versus TT's older games. Honestly, movie games have become obsolete now. Those quick and dirty movie tie-ins are nothing in comparison to the lego games. I understand that people might get bored of the same "core gameplay" each year, but I've played all of them... and I still enjoy them. I guess the different movie IP's each year helps.

The future, then? We know The Hobbit videogame is coming in 2014 and I'm sure it'll be as fun as the LOTR game. Honestly, I can't wait to see what else they'll do with lego in the next-generation. Marvel Heroes looks amazing on PS4. I think I would compare this series to Call of Duty in a way, it's something I enjoy playing each year. Somewhat of a guilty pleasure, but I'm not ashamed to say I still like this series very much, even as an adult.
Storm360
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(11-27-2013, 11:09 AM)
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I love the lego games, I just wish they'd stop with the lazy Vita ports
Burgess_101
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(11-27-2013, 11:09 AM)
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Lego Island was the best I played it on my Nans PC all the time. Lego GTA essentially.
Muku
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(11-27-2013, 11:11 AM)
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Never been into Lego games.. but then Lego City came out and it was one of the rare instances I 100%'d a game. I love that game so much. I think I was just waiting for some original stuff. I like super heroes and stuff, but not really my cup of tea for games. I'll be waiting to see if any new original games come out of it. Especially after my tackling Marvel Super Heroes on the Wii U. Thing is the buggiest piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure of playing. And I'm only playing that because I'm playing with my husband.
Foshy
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(11-27-2013, 11:13 AM)
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Played a bit of Lego Star Wars back in the day and some Lego City Undercover recently. Will buy Marvel Super Heroes for PS4 launch on friday to fill the open-world hole Watch Dogs created, it looks really fun.

What annoys me a bit about the series is the UI though. The fonts look like something you'd find in a shovelware game. Minor gripe, of course, but it irks more than it should lol
Man Puncher
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(11-27-2013, 11:14 AM)
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Played the original Lego Batman and thought it was a boring and tedious sack of shit. Picking up Marvel when the PS4 launches here tomorrow for some local couch co-op, hopefully I 'get it' this time.
DodgerSan
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(11-27-2013, 11:15 AM)
Nice OP.

I like that they really understand the licenses and put relevant Easter eggs in. (The 'snake' side mission on the helicarrier for example).

Another neat detail is that almost every character has a unique ’sneak' animation. Nice touch. I also laughed out loud at Sandman's 'B' button power :)

It does annoy me that they don't allow camera y-axis to be changed, and I wish you could turn off the help hints. (After they pop up for the 59th time my daughter is going "I know, I know!"
Rlan
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(11-27-2013, 11:18 AM)
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Don't forget Traveller's Tales other classic:



:P
spliced
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(11-27-2013, 11:23 AM)
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I played Rascal and I made a special point of looking at who developed it so I would be sure to never play one of their games again. Glad to hear they've improved.

LCU has piqued my interest since it doesn't rely on you being a fan of some already established franchise.
Zalman
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(11-27-2013, 11:24 AM)
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I have never played a single Lego game before. Which are considered the best ones? I am currently considering Lego City Undercover.
Recall
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(11-27-2013, 11:27 AM)
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The first Lego Batman is my favourite though the sequel was a bit disappointing as the open world approach was quite confusing in its layout and how it told you to progress making for frustrating experience.

The Lego Star Wars games are great too.

They are some of the best local co-op games, genuine fun for all ages type of gameplay.
MarkMclovin
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(11-27-2013, 11:27 AM)
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I enjoy the games, but the UI bugs me. The sound effects, UI visuals, the lot. They all seem to be exactly the same.
Maastricht
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(11-27-2013, 11:38 AM)
So far I've only tried demos, but my son is now old enough for co-op, so when I get the PS4 this Friday, I'll be sure to get Lego Marvel Super Heroes for it - this is right up his alley.
Dawg
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(11-27-2013, 11:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zalman

I have never played a single Lego game before. Which are considered the best ones? I am currently considering Lego City Undercover.

Lego City Undercover is great, one of the best for sure.

Not sure if you're getting a PS4, but Marvel Heroes is awesome too.
:Motorbass
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(11-27-2013, 11:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zalman

I have never played a single Lego game before. Which are considered the best ones? I am currently considering Lego City Undercover.

It was also the first one I played (Wii U version obviously, the 3DS one isn't as great). I had a blast. It's pretty rare that I play a game for like 12 hours (was sick at home) on one day, but it had so much content to discover. Especially if you have no idea about the LEGO game mechanics. Looking forward to other LEGO games now for multiplayer.

What I also liked: when I was thinking: "Oh, this mechanic is slowly getting old, I wish there was a shortcut". Then there was one coming around eventually.
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Zoba
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(11-27-2013, 11:55 AM)
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Really loved the Star Wars games back in the day. They were so much fun to run through co-op with my brother or solo just to screw around in Free Play. Character customization was neat too, though that seemed more robust on the DS versions. I think there may have been a GBA version that I played too.

The last one I picked up was LSWIII a few years ago. It was mostly enjoyable and a huge improvement, but without playing co-op I got bored after a few weeks and the glitches soured the replay value I would have had on my own. I haven't really expanded beyond that, but I've heard the later games have gotten much better.

I'll probably pick some of the newer ones up if I find a good bundle, but the Star Wars games will always be my favorites. Nothing beat running around the HUB in the first game with that amazing OST track in the background, or performing combos and blocking blaster fire on the Trade Federation ship for the first time.

Ahsoka and Aayla were awesome in the new game too
MasterBalls
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(11-27-2013, 11:55 AM)
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People call them stale, but they're simultaneously the best Harry Potter/Lord of the Rings games, which is an accolade in itself as well as a damning indictment to anybody else who's making such.
mrklaw
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(11-27-2013, 11:57 AM)
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Pirates of the Caribbean is a favourite of mine, and I think my only platinum trophy :p lego city undercover was great fun too.

Looking forward to lego marvel on PS4
Zoba
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(11-27-2013, 11:58 AM)
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I can't imagine them being stale. They have a formula that is enjoyable and proven to work, but every game has its own twists and spin on it to make it a new experience. You know what you're getting out of a Lego game, and I hope they've worked out the annoying glitches and shoddy AI to make that experience as crisp as possible.
Doctor Ninja
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(11-27-2013, 11:59 AM)
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I actually loved LEGO Indiana Jones for what it was. But since it's the only LEGO game I played, I can't judge the entire franchise though I say my cousins play them as I baby sit them. I do however think that the series lost some of it's charm when they introduced voice acting. The silly gestures they used in the older games made for far many scenarios.
Yawnier
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(11-27-2013, 12:02 PM)
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I adored the first two Lego Star Wars games from them on the PS2 and I introduced several of my friends to the series through playing the co-op in those two games as well. I haven't played any other of the games in the series though.
TAJ
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(11-27-2013, 12:02 PM)
I love most of them, especially Marvel, but using actual voice clips from the movies in LotR was a huge mistake. I didn't even crack a smile at that game.
Alx
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(11-27-2013, 12:03 PM)
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I only played Lego Batman 2 (thanks to summer sales), and liked it a lot for the restitution of all the DC comics characters with their powers and everything. The humor is great too. It's only slightly frustrating that the games are so easy, there's barely any challenge, but since it's meant to be played by kids it's completely understandable. I was also bothered in Batman 2 that almost everything happened at night, but I suppose it's not an issue in other episodes.
I'm keeping an eye on Lego Marvel, I may not buy it at release and full price, but it will definitely be mine. :)
fantomena
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(11-27-2013, 12:04 PM)
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I played Indiana Jones insanely much on my PSP.

Was so good.
Flightmare
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(11-27-2013, 12:05 PM)
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I love them, currently Lego City: Undercover is my favorite

Originally Posted by Storm360

I love the lego games, I just wish they'd stop with the lazy Vita ports

Yep, I'm just gonna buy ps4 versions and remote play them instead
JoeM86
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(11-27-2013, 12:11 PM)
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My friends all mock me for my love of the Lego games, but they're such a joy to play (when it doesn't glitch out on you)

The open world aspects are amazing and, although I was originally against it, the inclusion of original stories and voice acting just fully enhanced the whole experience. I've never laughed so much due to a game as I have with Lego City
MasterBalls
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(11-27-2013, 12:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by JoeM86

My friends all mock me for my love of the Lego games, but they're such a joy to play (when it doesn't glitch out on you)

The open world aspects are amazing and, although I was originally against it, the inclusion of original stories and voice acting just fully enhanced the whole experience. I've never laughed so much due to a game as I have with Lego City

Jesus imagine if you told them what else you played :P
TheOctagon
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(11-27-2013, 12:14 PM)
Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars was the pinnacle, imo. Last one designed for all ages before the geeks and kidults started getting their way. No dialogue, no GTA-lite, just the best animation in the series to date - better than Marvel's - a ridiculous amount of fun stuff to play with, and a structure suited to the game rather than mainstream expectations.
MasterBalls
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(11-27-2013, 12:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheOctagon

Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars was the pinnacle, imo. Last one designed for all ages before the geeks and kidults started getting their way. No dialogue, no GTA-lite, just the best animation in the series to date - better than Marvel's - a ridiculous amount of fun stuff to play with, and a structure suited to the game rather than mainstream expectations.

Shame it was based on shite.
ColdBlooder
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(11-27-2013, 12:17 PM)
The Lego games are a phantastic change of pace inbweteen other titles. Thats why i like them so much. If i just wanna have stupid crazy fun, i just play a Lego game. After work, or a hard day in general, i need something really lighthearted that dosen't require complete focus on not making a mistake and die. So a Lego game for those times is really enjoyable!
Dabookerman
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(11-27-2013, 12:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by MasterBalls

Jesus imagine if you told them what else you played :P

There is never any shame in that ;)
pikablu
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(11-27-2013, 01:41 PM)
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Absolutely hated the Indiana Jones one. I loved star wars and the little I played of Pirates and Batman though.
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(11-27-2013, 01:49 PM)
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While we're at it, let's not forget the old gems:




And of course, there were many Lego Creator games:


And I can't make this list without adding:

Dr Zhivago
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(11-27-2013, 02:13 PM)
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Love the Lego games. The platforming can get a bit creaky and the vehicle controls are crap, but they get by on pure charm. I was concerned that voice acting would spoil them, but for games not based exactly on existing movies it's fine. Only downside is seeing all the minifigs Lego will never actually make :(
Hoping for DC vs Marvel after The Hobbit :)
ManThatYouFear
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(11-27-2013, 02:18 PM)
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Love the lego games.

But damn lego lord of the rings was so bloody boring.
Elvick
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(11-27-2013, 02:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Storm360

I love the lego games, I just wish they'd stop with the lazy Vita ports

This.

I'd be buying them all if the PS Vita versions were paired back PS3 games, instead of DS games up-ported and done by a terrible company. As it is, I just don't buy LEGO games now. Might reconsider buying on PS4 with remote play though.

LEGO Legend of Chima: Laval's Journey was pretty good though, since it was a handheld only game. Easy platinum too.

I played LEGO Island... ah good times.
Snkfanatic
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(11-27-2013, 02:18 PM)
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I enjoy them but they don't hold my interest for to long for some reason. Although I still plan to buy Lego City Undercover soon.
plagiarize
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(11-27-2013, 02:22 PM)
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They didn't really 'grab me' until Lego City Undercover. Once they had good open world exploration like that though, it really gelled imho. I'm loving Lego Marvel Heroes. It's a game I'd recommend to anyone picking up PS4 or Xbox One... or frankly to anyone that isn't.

Apart from Vita and 3DS owners, naturally.
DryvBy
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(11-27-2013, 02:31 PM)
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I really like the Lego games as relaxing game to play that at least has interesting character puzzles. The problem is the formula is old. I finish Lego Marvel and loved it but there's a lot of it that just feels really outdated. The combat is stale with annoying animations that you get stuck in. It's a button masher, I guess for the kids. I actually just like going through the story in the games and finding hidden collectables.

However, I really hope they get the rights to the TMNT cartoon series, original preferred. An open world TMNT game with all the characters from the show would just be amazing.
sfog
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(11-27-2013, 02:54 PM)
As a fan of the franchise in general, I own and enjoyed both Lego Harry Potter games, although they're the only series entries I've played so far.

Personally, as a mostly solo player I didn't find the core gameplay itself all that remarkable, but it did make great use of the license as far as the design and style goes, and is clearly of a very high quality in terms of licensed games in general, and a great kids/family co-op type of experience overall.

Most of the others I've ignored because of not caring as much about their source licenses, but Marvel Super Heroes has been tempting me with its more open approach and good reception, and if/when I get a Wii U I'd definitely consider Lego City, as it seems quite good as well.
Flying Toaster
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(11-27-2013, 03:01 PM)
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My first lego game was lego batman 2 for the Vita... A friend noticed I was playing it and let me borrow the PS3 version of it (far superior)

I have Lego Marvel, and Lego City Undercover... both games are amazing. I hope they keep making games as when my daughter gets a bit older and can start to play. These are great games for her.
MilesWebber
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(11-27-2013, 03:04 PM)
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Lego City Undercover is pretty great. The voice acting and humor are top notch. It's much better than the quirky "silent film" style of the previous games. I just completed a mission which parodies Shawshank down to the letter. It even had a Morgan Freeman soundalike called "blue". AND I even had to lock the warden in the bathroom to play classical opera over the loudspeakers. The game is flawless.

The icing on the cake is the gamepad features. The video calls are too good and let's not forget Agent Honey. I chuckle every time Chase says "Okay, Honey!" or "Honey, what's my next objective?"
18-Volt
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(11-27-2013, 03:08 PM)
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Huge Lego fan and I've never missed any of Lego video games, that includes Bionicle and Racer games (well, except maybe that Chima game)

I know there are two games lined up for 2014 (The Movie and Hobbit) but I really want TMNT and Simpsons games. 4 Movie TMNT game and Springfield free roaming Lego game would be dreams coming true. Please, WB, hear my prayers!
DoctorWho
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(11-27-2013, 03:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dawg

Lego City Undercover is great, one of the best for sure.

Not sure if you're getting a PS4, but Marvel Heroes is awesome too.

Is the open world and humor in Marvel Heroes on par with Lego City Undercover? I am not normally a Lego games guy but Undercover is probably going to end up on my games of the year list.
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(11-27-2013, 03:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dawg

Traveller's Tales have a long history of making games. They used to make games like Sonic 3D, Puggsy, A Bug's Life, Muppet Racemania, Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex and a load of other stuff.



Something all of these games had in common was the fact they were mediocre at best

I know this is a Lego thread but...no way! Puggsy is an incredible game. Chock full of wonderful puzzles, brilliant secrets, clever bosses, great music, unique visual designs and bang-on physics based gameplay.
RealityExists
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(11-27-2013, 03:14 PM)
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seriously. they need to make another racing game.

I want to race lego cars again goddamnit.
Muku
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(11-27-2013, 03:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho

Is the open world and humor in Marvel Heroes on par with Lego City Undercover? I am not normally a Lego games guy but Undercover is probably going to end up on my games of the year list.

The world itself is smaller. It's basically downtown. I think the humor is up there though.
EDarkness
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(11-27-2013, 03:25 PM)

Originally Posted by DoctorWho

Is the open world and humor in Marvel Heroes on par with Lego City Undercover? I am not normally a Lego games guy but Undercover is probably going to end up on my games of the year list.

I have both games and LEGO Marvel's city is way smaller than LEGO City. Marvel is fun, but not as funny or really as interesting as LEGO City. Don't get me wrong, LEGO Marvel is fun in it's own rite, but I think LEGO City is by far the better game. Less bugs, too. Heh, heh.

Just for the record, I own LEGO Indy and to this day I've only played a little bit of it. LEGO City is the first LEGO game I could actually play all the way through and I enjoyed every minute of it. Let's hope Nintendo hooks up with them again for a sequel or something. Great game.
mclem
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(11-27-2013, 03:29 PM)
What impresses me is that we're, what, nearly fifteen games in now? Fifteen games in a series. It's been milked like crazy... but milked respectfully, with no *real* clunker in there (Of those I've played, Lego Indy 1 is the worst, I think - but only the worst of those, in no way a universally bad game).

So, there's the sheer quantity and the fact that the core formula is sturdy. Add to that the fact that they are perfect family games. Fond as I am of Nintendo... I'd say the Lego games are better at tapping into an audience younger than about eight or so... while still being enjoyable enough for adults.

I have endless respect for them; they're producing superior games for an underrepresented market. They absolutely deserve their success
Dawg
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(11-27-2013, 03:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

What impresses me is that we're, what, nearly fifteen games in now? Fifteen games in a series. It's been milked like crazy... but milked respectfully, with no *real* clunker in there (Of those I've played, Lego Indy 1 is the worst, I think - but only the worst of those, in no way a universally bad game).

So, there's the sheer quantity and the fact that the core formula is sturdy. Add to that the fact that they are perfect family games. Fond as I am of Nintendo... I'd say the Lego games are better at tapping into an audience younger than about eight or so... while still being enjoyable enough for adults.

I have endless respect for them; they're producing superior games for an underrepresented market. They absolutely deserve their success

Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself.

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