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Mr. Fix
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(11-28-2013, 02:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis

srpg and 3d platformers and then Sony's first party would have its hand in pretty much every single genre.

Excelling at..?

I'm joking, kind of.
i-Lo
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(11-28-2013, 02:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by davepoobond

What about kill zone RPG?

While this may present itself as an opportunity to flesh out the actual lore, it may end up diluting the franchise. Plus, I do not fully trust them to do justice to a franchise filled with such potential for they have failed to do so over the last two whole generations just because they might delve into a new genre.

Truth be told, after The Last of Us, which alongside Fallout New Vegas, Planescape Torment, Beyond Two Souls, The Witcher series, have tried to elevate the story telling prowess and maturity of the medium, it's hard to go back to the devs of KZ expecting a great story when the best they have done (according to multiple reviews) with KZSF is mediocre one.

Still, the inclusion of an Obsidian member gives me hope. However, as aforementioned, I really hope it's not in the fantasy genre (which I think is a cop out).
FunkyPajamas
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(11-28-2013, 02:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by davepoobond

What about kill zone RPG?

If they were going to work on a new type of game in the KZ universe, I'd rather they worked on a squad-based first person strategy (a mix of Republic Commando and Band of Brothers).

But yeah, I agree with Derrick: it's better if they go for a new IP. Take something that looks like Deus Ex and marry it with a Fallout-type RPG. Bonus point if they make it scary like System Shock.
Pound_lb003
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(11-28-2013, 02:57 AM)
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I'd love them to stay semi-sci-fi.

I mean I love fantasy too, but I really love what they are able to do with the sci-fi aesthetic in Killzone.

Or... Like historic would really bowl me over, but I'm not holding my breath.
Almighty
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(11-28-2013, 03:08 AM)
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I am always interested in more RPGs, but I will keep my expectations low. Not trying to take a jab at Guerrilla Games(I am not very familiar with most of their work), it's just that there are only a few developers who have proven they can make good RPGs.
Last edited by Almighty; 11-28-2013 at 03:16 AM.
UNCMark
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(11-28-2013, 03:14 AM)
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After playing Shadow Fall, my expectations are low. Horrible story, but what's worse is that it has some of the most idiotic game design I've seen in quite awhile.
FunkyPajamas
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(11-28-2013, 03:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by UNCMark

After playing Shadow Fall, my expectations are low. Horrible story, but what's worse is that it has some of the most idiotic game design I've seen in quite awhile.

I haven't played Shadow Fall, but I have played their previous games, and while I wouldn't call their design "idiotic", I would agree that they need not only a good writer (which it seems like they have one now) but a proper game director/designer.
cdkee
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(11-28-2013, 03:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by SomedayTheFire

The world and lore of Killzone was excellent, the story telling however, was trash.

Oh man...can't wait if true. Would be an amazing looking game ad well.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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(11-28-2013, 03:22 AM)
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GG definitely needs help creating an interesting world, telling a good story and creating memorable characters. Hiring this guy is a start in that direction but they need to do much more. I lost some faith in them after playing Shadow Fall.
Last edited by Dr. Kitty Muffins; 11-28-2013 at 04:19 AM.
SolidSnakex
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(11-28-2013, 03:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by davepoobond

What about kill zone RPG?

The brand isn't a strong enough to support it. If they're making an RPG then it needs to be a completely new IP.
10k
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(11-28-2013, 03:30 AM)
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It's sounding like destiny or fallout. I'd rather a third person open world game but it's sounding interesting.
UNCMark
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(11-28-2013, 04:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by FunkyPajamas

I haven't played Shadow Fall, but I have played their previous games, and while I wouldn't call their design "idiotic", I would agree that they need not only a good writer (which it seems like they have one now) but a proper game director/designer.

Play Shadow Fall first and then we can talk about the design decisions I'm referring to (for example pretty much all of chapter 8 is god-awful). The entire game vacillates between middling shooter (sorry, but the AI is atrocious) and just outright stupid gameplay decisions that appear to have been created to break up the monotony of the shooting, and for the most part fail miserably. Graphically its quite nice.
Byakuya769
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(11-28-2013, 04:35 AM)
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It could always be connected to the world of Killzone without sharing the name. They show way too much excellence in vehicle design to go to waste, but the story of Killzone has been thoroughly mediocre through and through.

See above, UNCMark knows what's up. Shadowfall delivers on absolutely none of the promise of increased variety and variability in battles and goes to add shitty non-shooting segments to the mix. A very poor showing in their single player. Multiplayer is still butter, but it does lack a variety I would have liked... but everyone else hates vehicles.
BurnOutBrighter
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(11-28-2013, 04:36 AM)
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So, an open world RPG shooter? :P
coolasj19
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(11-28-2013, 05:12 AM)
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...w-vegas-writer

But seriously, I can't wait until this thing is revealed. A new writer and a new setting is what I felt like Guerrilla always needed. A soft reboot if you will.
Pound_lb003
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(11-28-2013, 11:01 AM)
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It was a launch game I guess. There's so much going against them being any good. I am not surprised Killzone isn't that great. None of the launch games are really.

But there has to be a whole new creative team behind this IP, because they've been hiring for it for years. It's not the Killzone bunch.
SpeedOfNuts
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(11-28-2013, 01:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheJollyCorner

ummm... wouldn't hiring a quality writer like John Gonzales adjust your expectations a bit- or did you completely skip the OP?

ummm I don't know, you don't know, opinions and expectations.
ChosenPredator
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(11-28-2013, 01:18 PM)
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I wouldn't mind seeing a darksun RPG kind of like fallout

KZObsessed
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(11-28-2013, 02:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by coolasj19

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...w-vegas-writer

But seriously, I can't wait until this thing is revealed. A new writer and a new setting is what I felt like Guerrilla always needed. A soft reboot if you will.

Well, he could have at least mentioned he found the story on GAF. Damn freelancers!

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