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maneil99
(11-28-2013, 03:53 AM)
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http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4...68159361567/1/
Some users claim low = ultra other claim medium = ultra. For me its medium. Screens below are from a french site. What the hell is this, its been weeks without a fix. The frass looks worse in actual MP vs Test Range too.

Low


Medium


High


Ultra
BadTaste105
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(11-28-2013, 03:53 AM)
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That's pretty shameful, look at that frass.
Brazil
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(11-28-2013, 03:54 AM)
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It's pretty obvious low = ultra.
Rizific
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(11-28-2013, 03:54 AM)
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i remember this being mentioned in the BF4 thread. brb going to try it out
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 03:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Brazil

It's pretty obvious low = ultra.

For some Low is switched with Ultra for me its Medium. Majority in the thread seem to say medium
RS4-
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(11-28-2013, 03:55 AM)
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I uhh, should check out my settings.
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 03:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by RS4-

I uhh, should check out my settings.

Yea, I've been playing all Ultra, just noticed today after seeing it on battlelog. The difference is huge!
agallor6
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(11-28-2013, 03:58 AM)
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I feel like the grass and bushes look better on low and the gun/guys hand look more detailed on ultra.
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 03:59 AM)
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Just tried loading test range again, now all my settings look like shit/low
Nirolak
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(11-28-2013, 04:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by maneil99

Just tried loading test range again, now all my settings look like shit/low

You should only change vegetation detail.
Chuck
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(11-28-2013, 04:00 AM)
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wow
keuja
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(11-28-2013, 04:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by maneil99

For some Low is switched with Ultra for me its Medium. Majority in the thread seem to say medium

Just compare the FPS. Whatever is lower should be the ultra.
sflufan
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(11-28-2013, 04:01 AM)
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You've been DICE'd!
jayu26
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(11-28-2013, 04:02 AM)
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Dat fuck!?
agallor6
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(11-28-2013, 04:02 AM)
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I feel like the grass and bushes look better on low and the gun/guys hand look more detailed on ultra.
ITADAKIMASU
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(11-28-2013, 04:02 AM)
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The less vegetation is much better for MP.
StewboaT_
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(11-28-2013, 04:03 AM)
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Seems pretty obvious that Low = Ultra from those pictures
Chuck
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(11-28-2013, 04:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by sflufan

You've been DICE'd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HChzRB8h6LU
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 04:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

You should only change vegetation detail.

Thats all I am doing, this is REALLY weird.

When I load up the map with the setting set to ultra, it looks bad, changing to medium then REDEPLOYING makes it look GOOD

Loading up the map with it set to MEDIUM, makes it look AWFUL, and even WORSE on ULTRA.

Only way to get nice grass for me is to set it to ULTRA and then go to MEDIUM after REDEPLOYING

If someone else could try this, see if they have the settings mixed up, correcting it themselves then reloading the map that would be great
onken
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(11-28-2013, 04:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by keuja

Just compare the FPS. Whatever is lower should be the ultra.

If you have to look at the framerate to tell the difference then you should probably go ahead and just leave it on whatever has the highest framerate.
plasmawave
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(11-28-2013, 04:05 AM)
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Clearly Dice believes in the motto "less is more".
Rizific
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(11-28-2013, 04:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

You should only change vegetation detail.

terrain quality or decoration?
RS4-
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(11-28-2013, 04:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by maneil99

Yea, I've been playing all Ultra, just noticed today after seeing it on battlelog. The difference is huge!

lol I've been on medium the whole time. Oh well.
Intheflorsh
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(11-28-2013, 04:07 AM)
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What, really? No wonder why the game performs so well on my PC.
PsychoWARD23
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(11-28-2013, 04:08 AM)
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Wait a minute, does this mean those ridiculously up close screens from the PC version were on LOW vegetation? Or is this only for mp?
Thacker
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(11-28-2013, 04:11 AM)
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There's no change on my rig at all. 290x @ 2560 x 1440.

I bet this is driver, or specific card related.
Finaika
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(11-28-2013, 04:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Intheflorsh

What, really? No wonder why the game performs so well on my PC.

Maybe that was why they made it so.
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 04:12 AM)
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Uploading screens to show the weird effect happening.

Will fill in these spaces



Medium ( Loaded map on Medium )

Ultra ( Loaded map on Medium )


Medium ( Loaded Map on Ultra )


Ultra ( Loaded map on Ultra )


FPS dropped from 125-103 from the worst to the best

Redone
Last edited by maneil99; 11-28-2013 at 04:24 AM.
old
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(11-28-2013, 04:14 AM)
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It would seem to me that vegetation should be near the same on all setting for fair competition reasons. It gives players an unfair visibility advantage if their game renders less vegetation for prone enemies to hide in.

Or did they take prone out of this Battlefield release like they did Bad Company 2?
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 04:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by old

It would seem to me that vegetation should near the same on all setting for fair competition reasons. It gives players an unfair visibility advantage if their game renders less vegetation for prone enemies to hide in.

Or did they take prone out of this Battlefield release like they did Bad Company 2?

On Ultra/High ( Or whatever the equivilent is ) Players used to move the vegetation around them, but they took that out last patch.
Thacker
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(11-28-2013, 04:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Thacker

There's no change on my rig at all. 290x @ 2560 x 1440.

I bet this is driver, or specific card related.

Ok this is really weird. Using no combination of settings from low to ultra, can I make my game look like the first screenshot in the same area.
WTF?
I'm closing and reopening the game each time also.
Fantasmo
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(11-28-2013, 04:21 AM)
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What is this amateur hour?

What a mess this and Ghosts are. Can every gaming site band together and call both of these clowns out for all this? With all the technical problems.. come on man.

They all need to be called out at this point. I don't want the articles to say "the developers are working on it". I want to hear "the consumers are outraged and rightly so". Front page.

And to be clear, I'm specifically pointing fingers at Activision and EA and their unplayable broken cash cows. I don't care how many systems they're trying to launch on, that should have been accounted for. If DICE and IW's hands were tied trying to put out a great product on too many systems, it was someone's responsibility to make sure that was taken care of, again Acti and EA. Between all of their numerous problems, neither of them were ready to hit the market. Hire more people. A lot more. A lot lot more, if that's what it takes.

How can you not know the vegetation settings are all mixed up? I'll tell you how, not enough time to check!

Battlefield still crashes on me, and Ghosts, everybody else gave up on it even though for some strange reason I can run it well, because theirs couldn't run it or it ran like crap for them and nobody plays anymore.

$120 spent and I can't play either of them on PC. It's ridiculous that Acti and EA can even profit off of their massively unfinished work. If I could get a refund like any other product I wouldn't make a big stink about it, but unfortunately I can't. Absurd.
Last edited by Fantasmo; 11-28-2013 at 04:25 AM.
k4n3
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(11-28-2013, 04:22 AM)
for me

low 150fps
med 130
high 120
ultra 75

so i think mines right.... idk
Style Fox
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(11-28-2013, 04:23 AM)
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One of the most broken games I've ever bought.
EatChildren
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(11-28-2013, 04:24 AM)
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Well this is odd. I've got two variables at play: grass and shrubs.

On low, I have fewer shrubs, and these increase logically as I bump up Terrain Decoration, though the difference between Medium/High/Ultra seems to be negligible.

However, grass is the opposite. At low I've got greater grass density, medium is about the same, and High/Ultra reduce it significantly.

So of the Terrain Decoration setting, the grass part is skewered the wrong way, but the shrubs are set right, meaning "Medium" is the happy middle of maximising both.

Also, those big leaf plants in the op? Nowhere to be found in my version, no matter what setting I'm on. Here's me with Terrain Decoration set to medium.

maneil99
(11-28-2013, 04:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Thacker

Ok this is really weird. Using no combination of settings from low to ultra, can I make my game look like the first screenshot in the same area.
WTF?
I'm closing and reopening the game each time also.

Redeploy yourself
TheSeks
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(11-28-2013, 04:24 AM)
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I guess that's why the grass hasn't impressed me and I've had a pretty solid framerate. Auto set it to ultra/high which is apparently low. Okay... guess I should perf.drawoverlay my FPS on low and see how much of a hit ultra grass gives me.

Which isn't a big deal to me in any case as the rest of the game looks fine and I'm not busy paying attention to the grass in general.
GWX
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(11-28-2013, 04:25 AM)
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Holy shit, I had no idea BF4 was this fucked up. Wow :O
Jhn
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(11-28-2013, 04:25 AM)
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Jesus, this sure is one rushed clusterfuck of a game.
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 04:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by EatChildren

Well this is odd. I've got two variables at play: grass and shrubs.

On low, I have fewer shrubs, and these increase logically as I bump up Terrain Decoration, though the difference between Medium/High/Ultra seems to be negligible.

However, grass is the opposite. At low I've got greater grass density, medium is about the same, and High/Ultra reduce it significantly.

So of the Terrain Decoration setting, the grass part is skewered the wrong way, but the shrubs are set right, meaning "Medium" is the happy middle of maximising both.

Also, those big leaf plants in the op? Nowhere to be found in my version, no matter what setting I'm on. Here's me with Terrain Decoration set to medium.

I can't get them either :S
Sax Russel
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(11-28-2013, 04:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by maneil99

Thats all I am doing, this is REALLY weird.

When I load up the map with the setting set to ultra, it looks bad, changing to medium then REDEPLOYING makes it look GOOD

Loading up the map with it set to MEDIUM, makes it look AWFUL, and even WORSE on ULTRA.

Only way to get nice grass for me is to set it to ULTRA and then go to MEDIUM after REDEPLOYING

If someone else could try this, see if they have the settings mixed up, correcting it themselves then reloading the map that would be great

This is exactly how it works for me too.

Loading ultra -> changing to medium = great
Loading medium -> shit no matter what

And in no case do I get any of those leafy plants, just the grass.
Dmented
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(11-28-2013, 04:26 AM)
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Did some comparisons myself and Ultra looks the best. Not a huge difference between High and Ultra but from High to Medium and Low there's a huge difference.
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 04:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sax Russel

This is exactly how it works for me too.

Loading ultra -> changing to medium = great
Loading medium -> shit no matter what

And in no case do I get any of those leafy plants, just the grass.

Same, no plants, seriously screwed up. I got a 20 fps drop too from before, imagine ALL the benchmarks that have been screwed by this lol
TheSeks
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(11-28-2013, 04:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by maneil99

>>Not touching SP<<

Gonna have to to unlock the FN P90 and other weapons like the MP-413 REX Magnum Pistol, dude. Might as well do it on easy and blow through it in like 4 hours to get those.
LumpOfCole
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(11-28-2013, 04:27 AM)
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I guess in this case,

less is more.
Log4Girlz
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(11-28-2013, 04:27 AM)
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Maybe ultra has super clean grass and they had to reduce density to keep the IQ up.


Hahahaha yeah right
maneil99
(11-28-2013, 04:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by TheSeks

Gonna have to to unlock the FN P90 and other weapons like the MP-413 REX Magnum Pistol, dude. Might as well do it on easy and blow through it in like 4 hours to get those.

I can't believe they locked guns behind a shit SP. I'll get to it eventually
jwk94
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(11-28-2013, 04:29 AM)
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It's like somebody forgot to water the grass.
Fantasmo
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(11-28-2013, 04:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by jwk94

It's like somebody forgot to water the grass.

LOL ok this got me
TheSeks
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(11-28-2013, 04:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by maneil99

I can't believe they locked guns behind a shit SP. I'll get to it eventually

You also get Dogtags in the levels. Use a guide. The Bad Company smiley face one is a singleplayer dogtag, for instance. So yeah...

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