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Aaron
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(11-30-2013, 08:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by SamuraiX-

Wow. Really surprised to hear. Gonna have to go watch the replays.

I could be mixing them up with other matches. So much Starcraft this weekend it's making my head spin. Doesn't help there are two Heroes playing in two different tournaments.
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 08:41 AM)
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I didn't catch game 1 but in game 2 herO did Oracles, 2 of them. Ended up winning the game due to money storms late into the game.
Biskie
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(11-30-2013, 08:42 AM)
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Bomber and Scarlett are about to play again in the decider match.
SamuraiX-
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(11-30-2013, 08:45 AM)
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Blizzard either needs to drop the fucking Muta regen or give Missile Turrents the same +30 vs Biological that Spores get. Mutas balls are equally as stupid as Colossi balls in PvP. And I fucking HATE PvP.
Aaron
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(11-30-2013, 08:47 AM)
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They need to give terran a viable air unit against them. They need to bring back wraiths.
AdventureRacing
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(11-30-2013, 08:50 AM)

Originally Posted by SamuraiX-

Blizzard either needs to drop the fucking Muta regen or give Missile Turrents the same +30 vs Biological that Spores get. Mutas balls are equally as stupid as Colossi balls in PvP. And I fucking HATE PvP.

I don't think they're nearly that bad, the matchup is still quite good. I'm really against that sort of change to turrets just as i think the change to spores was dumb as well. Personally i think they over nerfed mines (they shouldn't have been touched) and now they just simply don't do enough damage to mutas.

If they want to make mech viable it shouldn't be done by nerfing widow mines (which should be a part of a mech army anyway). They should have just buffed tanks properly and just been done with it. Wait and see what issues that causes in each matchup and deal with it then.

Originally Posted by Aaron

They need to give terran a viable air unit against them. They need to bring back wraiths.

Ground vs air is fine. Were wraiths really the response to mutas in BW? I mean of all the units i would want them to bring back wraiths would be way down the list.
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 08:53 AM)
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Speaking of Mutaballs, really disappointed that Dream didn't go BCs late into series vs Scarlett on game 3. I mean he built a ton of Thors which aren't that much more than a BC. He was gas starved so I could understand his position.

Edit: HOLY CRAP! Bomber just dropped a huge Bomb on Scarlett. Like just rolled her with pure bio. I feel for Scarlett though playing Dream for a long time. But GO BOMBER!
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Hazaro
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(11-30-2013, 09:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Biskie

Yeah, her mutas really were overpowering. The missile turret just doesn't do anywhere near enough damage for a structure that's supposed to exclusively attack air.

looooooooooool

Terran just need to build more fucking turrets.

Originally Posted by AdventureRacing

Ground vs air is fine. Were wraiths really the response to mutas in BW? I mean of all the units i would want them to bring back wraiths would be way down the list.

No, the ground vs air counter was having 11 mutas per control group (1 overlord to stack them) and the medic marine being cost efficient enough to play 2 base vs 5.
SamuraiX-
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(11-30-2013, 09:08 AM)
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End this clown shoes Mutaball whoring shit, Bomber!

Don't even give her a single game this time!
Hazaro
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(11-30-2013, 09:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by SamuraiX-

End this clown shoes Mutaball whoring shit, Bomber!

Don't even give her a single game this time!

It's okay Scarlett decided to lose, oh well maybe mutas are good units
profit
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(11-30-2013, 09:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hazaro

It's okay Scarlett decided to lose, oh well maybe mutas are good units

They are.
Hazaro
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(11-30-2013, 09:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by profit

They are.

I wanna see 7 turrets per base with armor and tunneling claw carpet bomb mines.

Terrans need to try harder.
SamuraiX-
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(11-30-2013, 09:26 AM)
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This is so fucking stupid.

At least Scarlett's having a good time.
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 09:27 AM)
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God that was insane. Bomber should have just killed the main with a couple of marines. Float his rax and buildings. Here is the last game. Bomber please you need to win for the sake of Terrans. MVP doesn't count.
Biskie
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(11-30-2013, 09:29 AM)
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Huh, apparently there is a crowd. Can barely hear them.

Bo
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(11-30-2013, 09:30 AM)
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C'mon Scarlett! Rooting for you, girl!
Hazaro
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(11-30-2013, 09:35 AM)
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Idra has really improved as a caster and he was already good.
Bo
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(11-30-2013, 09:43 AM)
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WOOOOOOOO

Scarlett!
AdventureRacing
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(11-30-2013, 09:43 AM)
Fuck yessssssssssssssssssssssssss. Scarlett!

Originally Posted by Hazaro

Idra has really improved as a caster and he was already good.

I get the feeling we will be seeing more of him and i certainly hope we do.
SamuraiX-
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(11-30-2013, 09:43 AM)
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whatever
Hazaro
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(11-30-2013, 09:43 AM)
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Swarm Hosts were actually interesting to watch, and I got to see tanks!
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 09:43 AM)
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NOOOOO!!!!! BOMBER LAW FUUUUUU!!!!

GGWP to Scarlett. Have to cheer for MVP. Stupid herO winning the Winners match.
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(11-30-2013, 09:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hazaro

Idra has really improved as a caster and he was already good.

Agreed.

Woo Scarlett! Not exactly a classic game three but a W is a W. :)
Aaron
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(11-30-2013, 09:45 AM)
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Scarlett, abuser of mutas and destroyer of SamuraiX-'s dreams.
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 09:46 AM)
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Bomber really needs to work on Mech. ;_;

GGWP, he played very well. Should have stuck to bio but it was good seeing Mech.

Edit: LOL Dreamhack is happening in less than 2 hours. Missing most of the lower bracket.
unknownstranger
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(11-30-2013, 09:49 AM)
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Scarlett read Bomber perfectly in game 3.

With the Muta vs Mine talk, the only difference now is you need 1 more (or 2, can't remember the exact mine nerf) to instantly kill a muta ball. 2 mines kill exactly 2 Muta's like before. 3 mines kill exactly 3 Muta's like before. You need 5-6 now if you want them dead instantly.
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(11-30-2013, 09:51 AM)
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Such mines. Much banes. Wow.
SamuraiX-
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(11-30-2013, 09:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Bo

WOOOOOOOO

Scarlett!

Originally Posted by AdventureRacing

Fuck yessssssssssssssssssssssssss. Scarlett!

Three Zergs now in the quarterfinals. Most likely one more coming from Group D.

I hope all the incoming ZvZs are worth it for you guys. ;_;


C'mon Squirtle + Hydra! Wouldn't mind Grubby making it either but Hack needs to piss off. If he ends up making it to the quarterfinals over Bomber and Dream, tables will be flipped.

Originally Posted by Aaron

Scarlett, abuser of mutas and destroyer of SamuraiX-'s dreams.

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Aaron
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(11-30-2013, 09:57 AM)
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Dream and Hack should have tried for Dreamhack instead. Had their names all over it.
SamuraiX-
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(11-30-2013, 10:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aaron

Dream and Hack should have tried for Dreamhack instead. Had their names all over it.

MIND

FUCKING

BLOWN
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 10:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by SamuraiX-

Three Zergs now in the quarterfinals. Most likely one more coming from Group D.

I hope all the incoming ZvZs are worth it for you guys. ;_;


C'mon Squirtle + Hydra! Wouldn't mind Grubby making it either but Hack needs to piss off. If he ends up making it to the quarterfinals over Bomber and Dream, tables will be flipped.

Don't worry man. We will see more of Dream in Proleague along with Maru and all the good Terrans that aren't Bomber, Taeja and Innovation. We have Taeja and Innovation in a few hours in DH. Bomber will also be in the HOT6 cup thankfully.
AdventureRacing
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(11-30-2013, 10:01 AM)

Originally Posted by SamuraiX-

Three Zergs now in the quarterfinals. Most likely one more coming from Group D.

I hope all the incoming ZvZs are worth it for you guys. ;_;

Doesn't bother me i enjoy ZvZ's. I would have loved bomber and dream to be there but i'm a fan of Scarlett and i like seeing foreigners do well.
Bo
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(11-30-2013, 10:02 AM)
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Ditto a fan of Scarlett, and as I've said a couple of times, the sounds of Roach on Roach violence soothe me.
SamuraiX-
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(11-30-2013, 10:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Crimsonlink

Don't worry man. We will see more of Dream in Proleague along with Maru and all the good Terrans that aren't Bomber, Taeja and Innovation. We have Taeja and Innovation in a few hours in DH. Bomber will also be in the HOT6 cup thankfully.

i c wut u did thar

And yeah, I can't wait to see more of Dream in Proleague. He only ever attends IEM tournaments and hasn't done that well in the GSL until very recently.

Originally Posted by Bo

Ditto a fan of Scarlett, and as I've said a couple of times, the sounds of Roach on Roach violence soothe me.

How long have you been living without a soul?
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Bo
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(11-30-2013, 10:11 AM)
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The sfx and particles are just so good, it baffles my mind how they could nail that aspect and just flub Colossi deathballs so badly. Here's a million DPS, and you get desktop laser pointer effects.

*scree*
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 10:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by SamuraiX-

i c wut u did thar

And yeah, I can't wait to see more of Dream in Proleague. He only ever attends IEM tournaments and hasn't done that well in the GSL until very recently.



How long have been able to live without a soul?

LOL IMO ZvZ is just one step up on PvP aka 2nd weakest matchup.

1. TvZ King of all match ups.
2. PvZ A good matchup when its allin from toss.
3. TvT Best Mirror by a country mile.
4. TvP (going Bio all the time just made this MU much less exciting for me and allins just leave a bad taste in my mouth)
5. ZvZ (Muta or Roach, Pick your poison)
6. PvP (Allins or colossus wars with some Tempests sprinkled in, scum match up for a scum race.)

Anyways time to sleep and hope I wake up for Naniwa vs JYP. Maybe Grubby will move out of this group.
AdventureRacing
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(11-30-2013, 10:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Bo

The sfx and particles are just so good, it baffles my mind how they could nail that aspect and just flub Colossi deathballs so badly. Here's a million DPS, and you get desktop laser pointer effects.

*scree*

Agree with this a lot. That's one of the things they messed up on with SC2 which just baffles me. The sound effects in SC1 are just fantastic, listening to that and the music alone is so damn entertaining.
unknownstranger
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(11-30-2013, 10:37 AM)
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My order of match ups:

1. TvP
2. TvZ
3. PvP
4. TvT
5. PvZ
6. ZvZ
Hazaro
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(11-30-2013, 10:41 AM)
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Don't even care if it's ZvZ finals, I'm watching dota VODs
Aaron
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(11-30-2013, 10:58 AM)
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Dreamhack is on in an hour. The cure for zvz.
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 11:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by unknownstranger

My order of match ups:

1. TvP
2. TvZ
3. PvP
4. TvT
5. PvZ
6. ZvZ

How can PvP be so high for you? Its still Rock Papers and Scissors aka Stargate vs Robo vs Twilight. The only time its good imo is when someone does a weird rush with cannons or tons of units.Lategame is have more colossus or tempests.
unknownstranger
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(11-30-2013, 12:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Crimsonlink

How can PvP be so high for you? Its still Rock Papers and Scissors aka Stargate vs Robo vs Twilight. The only time its good imo is when someone does a weird rush with cannons or tons of units.Lategame is have more colossus or tempests.

TvT is only one of 3 combinations every single time and the only time mid-late game changes is if someone tech switches to Battlecruisers. PvP late game combines the techs and creating the perfect army composition which I enjoy more.
Crimsonlink
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(11-30-2013, 12:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by unknownstranger

TvT is only one of 3 combinations every single time and the only time mid-late game changes is if someone tech switches to Battlecruisers. PvP late game combines the techs and creating the perfect army composition which I enjoy more.

I see your point but TvT is more action packed which makes the better matchup.
unknownstranger
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(11-30-2013, 01:00 PM)
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Hack vs Hydra was awful. Hydra ended up winning game 3 going ling/baneling/roach/muta.
SamuraiX-
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(11-30-2013, 09:34 PM)
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dat playoff bracket



Sadly gonna miss every single match except the final... Hopefully it'll be Mvp vs EffOrt. Really hoping for a Mvp vs DRG semifinal match. :O
Bo
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(12-01-2013, 04:19 AM)
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Scarlett, playing way too greedy :/
Biskie
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(12-01-2013, 04:28 AM)
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Can't wait for DRG! If he and Mvp win their matches I'm afraid I'm gonna have to pull an all-nighter.
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(12-01-2013, 04:35 AM)
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Looking a lot better when she correctly reads Hydra's stance.
Biskie
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(12-01-2013, 04:37 AM)
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She should win this as long as she scouts well. She's the better player.
SamuraiX-
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(12-01-2013, 04:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Biskie

She should win this as long as she scouts well. She's the better player.

I wouldn't doubt Hydra. When he's on his game he's probably a Top 10 Zerg player. At the moment he's definitely a favorite to take this tournament.

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