People crap on everything, that doesn't marvel movies not draw unatual amounts of hype. While marvel studios does victory laps around DC every year at SDCC because these dudes gonna get fucking ant man in a damn movie before WW. Something that truly needs to be absorbed.Originally Posted by Shaanyboi
Except people shit on marvel movies too. Hell, mention Iron Man 3, and people get pissy in about half a second. Most of the phase 1 movies were acceptable but certainly nothing that special save for Iron Man 1 and The Avengers.
I am not saying spiderman movies don't draw hype, but it ain't like spider man 1 and 2 no more, thats for sure, and it just seems like its going downhill.
What The? That Rhino looks like it's part of a Power Ranger robotOriginally Posted by Shaanyboi
So the first poster was just tweeted today...
....jesus. I wasn't expecting this. Not all three, anyway.
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Sure they can reboot it forever. Anything to hold onto the rights.Nah b.
See they cannot reboot it forever, eventually movie spidey like comic book spidey will be associated with a constant stream of shit. So much so it will cost them to make movies, then if they do not make movies marvel gets spidey back. If they mess up reall bad, less people will wanna see spiderman movies. And then they will give it back to marvel in a poisonous diarrhea poop state.
It's not like any of the Spider-Man movies have been financial failures (not even SM3 or Amazing, despite the lukewarm reception to both), so they'll have no problem justifying funding for them. Budget might get a little tight, but they'll still put them out.
I mean they can, eventually they are gonna start loosing money. You can only produce meh, for so long before people go meh and decide to not see your movie in theaters.Sure they can reboot it forever. Anything to hold onto the rights.
It's not like any of the Spider-Man movies have been financial failures (not even SM3 or Amazing, despite the lukewarm reception to both), so they'll have no problem justifying funding for them. Budget might get a little tight, but they'll still put them out.
Whats that saying, "switch your crops" I think.
Maybe soon it might be time for spider man to go, and they may find a new super hero franchise they can make bank on.
Weird how the idea of Spidey fighting Green Goblin, Electro, and Rhino in a 2 hour movie is somehow preposterous and yet there are 22 page comics that have him doing that and 4 decades worth of nerds had not one problem with that shit.
It's Spider-Man. That poster looks like Spider-Man to me. Hopefully the movie follows through on that promise. Maybe it won't. But I'll watch it first before I decide whether it did or didn't.
That's what it seems like to me. Everything about this movie so far has seemed spider-man to me. I like it when he fights multiple villains, it's great when every hero does.Originally Posted by BobbyRoberts
Spider-Man's never going back to Marvel.
Weird how the idea of Spidey fighting Green Goblin, Electro, and Rhino in a 2 hour movie is somehow preposterous and yet there are 22 page comics that have him doing that and 4 decades worth of nerds had not one problem with that shit.
It's Spider-Man. That poster looks like Spider-Man to me. Hopefully the movie follows through on that promise. Maybe it won't. But I'll watch it first before I decide whether it did or didn't.
There's definitely a difference. Movies can often feel cluttered when they try and fit too much in. See Spiderman 3 vs. Spiderman 2 for an example.Originally Posted by BobbyRoberts
Spider-Man's never going back to Marvel.
Weird how the idea of Spidey fighting Green Goblin, Electro, and Rhino in a 2 hour movie is somehow preposterous and yet there are 22 page comics that have him doing that and 4 decades worth of nerds had not one problem with that shit.
It's Spider-Man. That poster looks like Spider-Man to me. Hopefully the movie follows through on that promise. Maybe it won't. But I'll watch it first before I decide whether it did or didn't.
You say that now, I used to say it too.Originally Posted by BobbyRoberts
Spider-Man's never going back to Marvel.
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It seems like more and more of a possibility.
I personally would rather see the fantastic 4 go first, because DOOM. and then the X men. Spiderman is kind of last, Spidermans source materials, was never exactly the best. A river of poop with little nuggets of gold occasionally would be an apt metaphor. So sony can take as long as they want really.
Why is the Rhino not just Giamatti doing this the whole film? It'd be way more enjoyable.
that's a problem with the execution, not the premise. People in this thread are having a problem with the PREMISE. The premise of Spidey fighting those three is perfectly fine. There are, again, DECADES worth of proof that you can successfully do it in 22-48 comics pages. It's a matter of a writer/director figuring out how to translate that.There's definitely a difference. Movies can often feel cluttered when they try and fit too much in.
It's not impossible. Granted, maybe it's IMPROBABLE. But there's no reason it can't be done. It's not like you need a TON of fucking set-up. It's SPIDER-MAN. People will roll with the broad strokes.
I've been saying it. You should have never stopped. Especially after Amazing Spider-Man made them hundreds of millions less than a decade after Spider-Man 3 came out. You think they won't do that again? And again? And AGAIN?You say that now, I used to say it too.
Hollywood has learned maybe the shittiest lesson from mainstream comics there is to learn, at least if you're a fan: All you have to do is wait ten years, and sell them a new #1 issue, and they'll eat that shit up.
Sony knows this. Sure, they might play ball w/ Marvel - let Andrew Garfield show up in Avengers 3. Make some overtures about the universe bein shared. But there is no way they're going to come off of that property. It's a guaranteed 500-600 million worldwide, every time, quality be damned. And if they manage to make a GOOD movie? Fuckin' forget it.
For as problematic as the latter ones were as a whole, I thought the Burton/Schumacher era Batman movies handled doing multiple villains really well.
Well, I don't know dark you want to make Spider-Man. "Corny, cooky shit" is kind of his thing.Originally Posted by nick nacc
These new Spider-Man movies are so damn superfluous. People saying its a darker reboot have no ground. It's the same corny cooky shit as the last three movies.
They tried giving Superman the dark&grits treatment, and look how that turned out.
No....... this can't be right!
RIP in peace in pieces Peter Parker
I'm just gonna say this.Originally Posted by BobbyRoberts
I've been saying it. You should have never stopped. Especially after Amazing Spider-Man made them hundreds of millions less than a decade after Spider-Man 3 came out. You think they won't do that again? And again? And AGAIN?
Hollywood has learned maybe the shittiest lesson from mainstream comics there is to learn, at least if you're a fan: All you have to do is wait ten years, and sell them a new #1 issue, and they'll eat that shit up.
Sony knows this. Sure, they might play ball w/ Marvel - let Andrew Garfield show up in Avengers 3. Make some overtures about the universe bein shared. But there is no way they're going to come off of that property. It's a guaranteed 500-600 million worldwide, every time, quality be damned. And if they manage to make a GOOD movie? Fuckin' forget it.
Change ya crops homie, Change ya crops.
Better than amazing spider man IMO. All Spider-Man movies do nothing for me. I guess I'll quite trollin lol. enjoy what you like.The problem with SM3 wasn't so much the multiple villains, but the fact that there was no cohesive story uniting them all. The movie tried to give all three a backstory on top of doing all the stuff with Peter and the black suit and his relationship with MJ. It had a ton of different plots going on at once, and most of them weren't very good.
For as problematic as the latter ones were as a whole, I thought the Burton/Schumacher era Batman movies handled doing multiple villains really well.
Well, I don't know dark you want to make Spider-Man. "Corny, cooky shit" is kind of his thing.
They tried giving Superman the dark&grits treatment, and look how that turned out.
Would rather this be good than bad.
I still don't feel like it's the same. In the comics, the characters are often established which certainly helps. In movies, you have to work in origin stories that relate to the protagonist and you then have to establish why they are all so hateful at the same time and why they choose to fight together. It's too much shit to fit into a movie which, again, was proven in Spiderman 3.Originally Posted by BobbyRoberts
that's a problem with the execution, not the premise. People in this thread are having a problem with the PREMISE. The premise of Spidey fighting those three is perfectly fine. There are, again, DECADES worth of proof that you can successfully do it in 22-48 comics pages. It's a matter of a writer/director figuring out how to translate that.
It's not impossible. Granted, maybe it's IMPROBABLE. But there's no reason it can't be done. It's not like you need a TON of fucking set-up. It's SPIDER-MAN. People will roll with the broad strokes.
I'm not sure people are even thinking about the premise. In this medium it's just doesn't work that well.
Here's the thing:In the comics, the characters are often established which certainly helps. In movies, you have to work in origin stories that relate to the protagonist and you then have to establish why they are all so hateful at the same time and why they choose to fight together.
No, you don't.
People aren't going to get lost. These stories are never that complicated, and we're going on well over a decade of this kind of storytelling not just being prevalent, but DOMINANT when it comes to pop culture. You don't have to work in origin stories longer than 2 minutes if you don't want to. The audience doesn't need their hands held when it comes to fucking SPIDER-MAN and GREEN GOBLIN. They'll figure it out pretty quickly if you just sketch in the details.
It's only too much shit to fit into a movie if you're the kind of person making a movie who thinks you have to treat your audience like lobotomized dipshits when it comes to something as "complicated" and "nuanced" as a kid in red & blue pajamas shooting webs at a guy on a hoverboard.
Batman Begins also had multiple villains and was able to handle their plot lines well.Originally Posted by BobbyRoberts
Here's the thing:
No, you don't.
People aren't going to get lost. These stories are never that complicated, and we're going on well over a decade of this kind of storytelling not just being prevalent, but DOMINANT when it comes to pop culture. You don't have to work in origin stories longer than 2 minutes if you don't want to. The audience doesn't need their hands held when it comes to fucking SPIDER-MAN and GREEN GOBLIN. They'll figure it out pretty quickly if you just sketch in the details.
It's only too much shit to fit into a movie if you're the kind of person making a movie who thinks you have to treat your audience like lobotomized dipshits when it comes to something as "complicated" and "nuanced" as a kid in red & blue pajamas shooting webs at a guy on a hoverboard.
Cliffhanger confirmed.
Did it?Originally Posted by Rastafarian42
Batman Begins also had multiple villains and was able to handle their plot lines well.
Agree to disagree.Originally Posted by BobbyRoberts
Here's the thing:
No, you don't.
People aren't going to get lost. These stories are never that complicated, and we're going on well over a decade of this kind of storytelling not just being prevalent, but DOMINANT when it comes to pop culture. You don't have to work in origin stories longer than 2 minutes if you don't want to. The audience doesn't need their hands held when it comes to fucking SPIDER-MAN and GREEN GOBLIN. They'll figure it out pretty quickly if you just sketch in the details.
It's only too much shit to fit into a movie if you're the kind of person making a movie who thinks you have to treat your audience like lobotomized dipshits when it comes to something as "complicated" and "nuanced" as a kid in red & blue pajamas shooting webs at a guy on a hoverboard.
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