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amar212
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(11-30-2013, 03:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Solal

My guess:

It is your guess. Not a fact. And grind was always in GT games, since the first GT. You can call it archaic, you may not like it, but impying they are doing something because you guess it is like that and not taking into account the series history is nothing but your own personal subjective guess.
NutJobJim
(11-30-2013, 03:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by KaYotiX

Looks good, I'm content playing Forza 5 until they bring GT over to the PS4.

I'm in the same boat. Probably would have bought PS4 at launch had this been a launch game for the system.
Hope this turns out better than GT5 and then makes its way over to PS4 soon.
OmegaDL50
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(11-30-2013, 03:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Solal

No no and no. You can't know at the start of a game if MT changed the game structure because the "frustating" moment when people are the most encline to BUY stuff is later in the game.


Do you really think game designers did not build the game so you don't feel pushed to buy MT at the start ? You need to invest time before being encline to spend more money. Stop being so naive.

What if the very beginning is nice and all...and suddenly, between Amateur and Pro it suddenly becomes way too hard, or way too long, or does not give you enough money to buy cars you need (that may cost like 1000000Cr...)... YOU DON'T KNOW.

And we would not even have to wonder this kind of shit if MT were not in.

Now stop misinformation please. We all got that you love the GT series and all... but please stick to the facts.

And you do know that Microtransactions are going to change the game? You know it's nice for you tell me to stick to the facts, I find it you're being intentionally disingenuous just to support your own views.

At least I've gave supportive evidence from people that have actually played the game, so it's based on information that actually exists.

To claim that the microtransactions "WILL" effect the game themselves is fairly big assumption.

However what WE can do is extrapolate on existing information that is already confirmed and go from there.

You can make make "guesses" as Amar brought up, but they aren't facts and are equally unsubstantiated.
DoctorWho
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(11-30-2013, 03:37 PM)
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Weird. Have a guy on my friend's list this morning who has the game.
Emwitus
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(11-30-2013, 03:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by OmegaDL50

And you do know that Microtransactions are going to change the game? You know it's nice for you tell me to stick to the facts, I find it you're being intentionally disingenuous just to support your own views.

At least I've gave supportive evidence from people that have actually played the game, so it's based on information that actually exists.

To claim that the microtransactions "WILL" effect the game themselves is fairly big assumption.

However what WE can do is extrapolate on existing information that is already confirmed and go from there.

You can make make "guesses" as Amar brought up, but they aren't facts and are equally unsubstantiated.

Don't even bother with solal.
Niks
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(11-30-2013, 03:38 PM)
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I said it before, MT should be aimed at casuals.. The problem with Forza is that they also targeted the hardcore with MT.

MT should be an option to gamers, and not central tothe gaming experience.
Smokey
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(11-30-2013, 03:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by crazepharmacist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqXqcLa6SAo

New video. Looks fucking fantastic.

This looks great...but they have got to do SOMETHING about those god awful tire sounds. Shit has been the same since GT1, how do they go 15 years and not change this? Completely breaks the immersion for me :l
Networker
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(11-30-2013, 03:42 PM)
Man I want this game SO badly. But they really dropped the ball releasing this on PS3. I don't give a shit about the graphics, because I played the demo and they look great, but the load time and the PS3 controller is going to hold me not to buy this game.
Untalkative_Bunny
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(11-30-2013, 03:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Steroyd

It's a psychological change more than anything, and the type you can ignore, if you want the satisfaction of overcoming a challenge, as you say someone else won't and would just rage quit meaning they're not up for the challenge, in a twisted sense if that same person is willing to open up their wallet, it means PD get extra cash and they're less likely to trade in the game.

So long as they don't overhaul the whole structure of the game to pressure you into spending money at every turn, it's a more co-habitual compromise compared to the out and out free to play shit found on smart phones that shoves everything in your face.

What I'm trying to say is that the options in challenging non-microtransaction games are: ragequit or preserve. Adding microtransactions changes the equation fundamentally to ragequit, persevere, or buy your way through.

Yes, some of the people who would have quit previously will buy their way through. Others will persevere and spend no money. And then there are the people who would have persisted in the past, but will now choose to buy their way through.

The people that I'm focusing in the last group. Maybe that group is tiny and doesn't matter, I do not know. But for those people, offering a real money way to cheat fundamentally changes the game experience.

Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis

Poor analogy.

These micro transactions in GT don't make you insta win lol. This is not pay to win. It simply gives you access to expensive cars and before you think that expensive = better just stop. A 100k car in Gt5 could easily outpace a 20 million one (same PP bracket) if it was tuned properly and more importantly driven properly.

You can spend a shit load of money buying a 20 million car. You still have to drive it properly to complete the race. If we compare it to Souls, it would be like having micro transactions for rare weapons/armour. These rare weapons/armour may not always be better and you still have to control your character to overcome the battle.

True, the analogy isn't perfect. But I think you get my point.

Interesting times.
OmegaDL50
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(11-30-2013, 03:44 PM)
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Well it's just something we will have to wait and see on.

I mean GT5 had a ton of patch updates, (up to 2.14 from what I can remember) and GT6 is apparently more modular in regards to changes. So it's entirely up in the air on what PD will do.

Nothing ever seems to be set in stone with the constant tweaks be it minor or major that they do.

Considering Kaz said there was going to be a day-1 patch. And future updates for that GPS, who knows what unannounced and other nonspecific changes will occur in GT6's future.

It's going to be one of things we will just have to wait on.
Face it Tiger..
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(11-30-2013, 03:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Networker

Man I want this game SO badly. But they really dropped the ball releasing this on PS3. I don't give a shit about the graphics, because I played the demo and they look great, but the load time and the PS3 controller is going to hold me not to buy this game.

You may be able to use the DS4.. without rumble of course..
H_Prestige
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(11-30-2013, 03:51 PM)

Originally Posted by Just in Time

So why isn't this on PS4?

You are supposed to make early adopters excited for their purchase, not make them feel they are far too ahead of the game when main entry series are still being released on the previous iteration of the console.

What is the point?

Yeah, because Sony is having a real hard time selling ps4s.
Caramello
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(11-30-2013, 04:00 PM)
I don't have the time to grind for the most desirable cars so I'm happy that there is a way for me to get those cars if I can't manage to build up the credits on my own.
Sleeplessnights
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(11-30-2013, 04:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho

Weird. Have a guy on my friend's list this morning who has the game.

It's out in the Middle East, I walked in the store yesterday and picked one up.
scandisk_
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(11-30-2013, 04:09 PM)
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HOLY SHIT! the lighting on that Goodwood Vid with the X1 is fuckin unbelievable.
Sleeplessnights
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(11-30-2013, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by scandisk_

HOLY SHIT! the lighting on that Goodwood Vid with the X1 is fuckin unbelievable.

The lighting in the game is pretty incredible. Racing in Rome and getting reflections off the roof of the car ahead of me was amazing.
scandisk_
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(11-30-2013, 04:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sleeplessnights

The lighting in the game is pretty incredible. Racing in Rome and getting reflections off the roof of the car ahead of me was amazing.

Man, you've been playing GT6 non-stop? Thanks for answering our request! appreciate it.
ascii42
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(11-30-2013, 04:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Solal

No no and no. You can't know at the start of a game if MT changed the game structure because the "frustating" moment when people are the most encline to BUY stuff is later in the game.


Do you really think game designers did not build the game so you don't feel pushed to buy MT at the start ? You need to invest time before being encline to spend more money. Stop being so naive.

What if the very beginning is nice and all...and suddenly, between Amateur and Pro it suddenly becomes way too hard, or way too long, or does not give you enough money to buy cars you need (that may cost like 1000000Cr...)... YOU DON'T KNOW.

And we would not even have to wonder this kind of shit if MT were not in.

Now stop misinformation please. We all got that you love the GT series and all... but please stick to the facts.

Interesting thing to say when the rest of your post is speculation.
Megasoum
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(11-30-2013, 04:21 PM)
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Looking through the car list...there's at least one car they can't possibily screw up the sound off...

Tesla Motors Model S Signature Performance '12

Kenshin001
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(11-30-2013, 04:27 PM)
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Saw this being played at Tokyo Motor Show today. Looked nice, though some of the ground textures are a bit last gen. Menus seemed snappy too, unlike GT5. Curious how the complete package has turned out, whether Kaz has turned it around or not. After GT5 I'm cautious.
Parakeetman
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(11-30-2013, 04:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V937NPSudMM

Hmm not digging that boyband sounding song at all... Missed the old shit where it was just kickass music instead.

The footage is great! Song not so much...
Sleeplessnights
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(11-30-2013, 04:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by scandisk_

Man, you've been playing GT6 non-stop? Thanks for answering our request! appreciate it.

Ahaha, I wouldn't say non-stop.

I've played it for quite a bit, though. Probably something between 2-3 hours.
Goldenhen
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(11-30-2013, 04:54 PM)
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I'm thinking of buying Wheel Stand Pro for my younger brother since he play it regularly. I bought him Logitech Driving Force GT not long ago and I want to know your opinion on Wheel Stand Pro if you have purchased them before. Would you recommend it to your family and friends to buy it? Is it easy to assemble it? Is it stable to use it while driving?

The only reason I'm asking is because the wheel stand pro is going cost me more than I paid for Driving Force GT.
ironcreed
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(11-30-2013, 04:54 PM)
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Replay of a Pagani Huayra at Ascari. Looks amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-HoRoy0j1k

Stars and Constellations rotation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjPiZ2chioI

Apricot Hill at night. What do you know, the other cars do have their lights on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUmH6qSctPY
Last edited by ironcreed; 11-30-2013 at 04:58 PM.
Emwitus
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(11-30-2013, 04:57 PM)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-HoRoy0j1k

Who was saying driveclub are king of lighting again? And this is on a ps3. Amazing.
33-Hit-Combo
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(11-30-2013, 05:00 PM)
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Why won't they put the Z-Tune (yes, more Nissans) in there!!!
ironcreed
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(11-30-2013, 05:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Emwitus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-HoRoy0j1k

Who was saying driveclub are king of lighting again? And this is on a ps3. Amazing.

I hear you. I can't help but find it odd how some act as if the PS3 is automatically dead and irrelevant just because the PS4 just launched.
paskowitz
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(11-30-2013, 05:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by ironcreed

I hear you. I can't help but find it odd how some act as if the PS3 is automatically dead and irrelevant just because the PS4 just launched.

If there was no next yet, people would be all "wow that is amazing."
crazepharmacist
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(11-30-2013, 05:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Goldenhen

I'm thinking of buying Wheel Stand Pro for my younger brother since he play it regularly. I bought him Logitech Driving Force GT not long ago and I want to know your opinion on Wheel Stand Pro if you have purchased them before. Would you recommend it to your family and friends to buy it? Is it easy to assemble it? Is it stable to use it while driving?

The only reason I'm asking is because the wheel stand pro is going cost me more than I paid for Driving Force GT.

I've heard good things. Will be buying one for my G27 this holiday. Seems perfect for couch gaming, and easily stowable while not in use.
scandisk_
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(11-30-2013, 05:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Emwitus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-HoRoy0j1k

Who was saying driveclub are king of lighting again? And this is on a ps3. Amazing.

off-screen but damn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBka1sEoago&hd=1

GT on PS4? game over mang
benzy
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(11-30-2013, 05:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sleeplessnights

The lighting in the game is pretty incredible. Racing in Rome and getting reflections off the roof of the car ahead of me was amazing.

The lighting in Rome has been improved?
celcius
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(11-30-2013, 05:41 PM)
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Finally placed my preorder today. Next weekend is going to be great. :)
Pyscho_Mantis
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(11-30-2013, 05:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Untalkative_Bunny

What I'm trying to say is that the options in challenging non-microtransaction games are: ragequit or preserve. Adding microtransactions changes the equation fundamentally to ragequit, persevere, or buy your way through.

Yes, some of the people who would have quit previously will buy their way through. Others will persevere and spend no money. And then there are the people who would have persisted in the past, but will now choose to buy their way through.

The people that I'm focusing in the last group. Maybe that group is tiny and doesn't matter, I do not know. But for those people, offering a real money way to cheat fundamentally changes the game experience.



True, the analogy isn't perfect. But I think you get my point.

Interesting times.

This is incorrect for GT6. The challenge in GT is not getting the most expensive cars but completing the races. You cannot buy your way to victory in GT6.
Parakeetman
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(11-30-2013, 05:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by ironcreed

Replay of a Pagani Huayra at Ascari. Looks amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-HoRoy0j1k

Stars and Constellations rotation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjPiZ2chioI

Apricot Hill at night. What do you know, the other cars do have their lights on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUmH6qSctPY

I wish that guy recorded higher than 720p since really the footage he has up isnt doing the game justice. D:
goku3000
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(11-30-2013, 05:49 PM)
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any screens of the standard cars and standard cockpit?
funkystudent
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(11-30-2013, 05:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by goku3000

any screens of the standard cars and standard cockpit?

Its the exact same as post 2.0 GT5.

Its just a black void.
ironcreed
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(11-30-2013, 05:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Parakeetman

I wish that guy recorded higher than 720p since really the footage he has up isnt doing the game justice. D:

I agree. But even with the compressed footage, you can still tell that it looks great.
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(11-30-2013, 05:54 PM)
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Nice ot mate.
benzy
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(11-30-2013, 05:56 PM)
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M3 GT at Bathurst. Lighting is incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddYhsL5vSow

And people can say what they want about GT having 2D trees but they look very realistic compared to other racers. Even Forza 5 has 2D trees on some tracks and they look nowhere near this realistic.
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amar212
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(11-30-2013, 06:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pyscho_Mantis

This is incorrect for GT6. The challenge in GT is not getting the most expensive cars but completing the races. You cannot buy your way to victory in GT6.

Especially because of restrictions on both PP and tire compound in the career. Those used to blazing through GT Mode with 600HP monsters on Racing Soft are in for surprise.

GT2 philosophy has returned. With some self-sustaning (~100-150 PP less than opponents and 1-notch weaker compound) career races will be interesting for more demanding players.
ironcreed
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(11-30-2013, 06:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by benzy

M3 GT at Bathurst. Lighting is incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddYhsL5vSow

Yeah, the lighting is just plain natural looking. Especially with the interplay of shadows in the car after it gets dark. Not bad for the old PS3.
goku3000
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(11-30-2013, 06:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by funkystudent

Its the exact same as post 2.0 GT5.

Its just a black void.

wel that's disappointing
Last edited by goku3000; 11-30-2013 at 06:14 PM.
AlexMogil
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Originally Posted by benzy

And people can say what they want about GT having 2D trees but they look very realistic compared to other racers. Even Forza 5 has 2D trees on some tracks and they look nowhere near this realistic.


Really don't have a problem with 2D trees or crowds in GT or Forza. People were completely high fiving each other over it in Forza and it really doesn't matter. The cars, tracks, modeling, and driving are what matter.
benzy
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(11-30-2013, 06:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by AlexMogil

Really don't have a problem with 2D trees or crowds in GT or Forza. People were completely high fiving each other over it in Forza and it really doesn't matter. The cars, tracks, modeling, and driving are what matter.

Some people think it's such a sixth-gen console and below type of thing. =\
SpideySenses
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(11-30-2013, 06:45 PM)
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I have a quick question, for GT Academy I had to switch to 720p in XMB for a smoother performance, will I have to do the same here?
Gen X
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(11-30-2013, 06:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kenshin001

Saw this being played at Tokyo Motor Show today. Looked nice, though some of the ground textures are a bit last gen.

So if GT6 was released 3 weeks ago the ground textures would look 'this gen'? ;-)
Juicy Bob
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(11-30-2013, 06:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by benzy

'Oh, I'll just casually switch my lights on while I brake for The Dipper.'
Solal
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(11-30-2013, 06:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by ascii42

Interesting thing to say when the rest of your post is speculation.

True that.
Gen X
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(11-30-2013, 06:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Juicy Bob

'Oh, I'll just casually switch my lights on while I brake for The Dipper.'

Most modern cars these days have an auto-switch that turn lights on at a certain level of darkness.
Fried Food
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(11-30-2013, 06:57 PM)
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the light isn't reflecting off the opponent car in that gif. PS3 can only do so much

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