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jelly
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(12-02-2013, 06:39 PM)
I guess the new suit makes him look more like a guy in a suit rather than a robot. He can also relax in his UNSC spandex dreaming about those Cortana curves while sipping a hot chocolate and staring into the vastness of space.

Does anyone get the feeling Master Chief is going to have some force like powers in the new game after the Nutcracker women did her space magic ?
daedalius
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(12-02-2013, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Prinz Eugn

Wasn't there speculation before the game came out that there was some nano-tech in the suit that could let it upgrade itself? It also made sense to me that Cortana could design/implement it being bored as shit floating in space.

Just a line in Thursday War alluding to nano upgrades; although you'd think she would have repaired that damage on his chest :p

I personally like the new design, but I guess they didn't really explain some of the changes going from 2 to 3; although this time it was a bit more extreme I suppose. Video game reasons.
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Originally Posted by Madness

I hated the fact they changed it at all. Just more of 343 wanting to put their stamp on everything. It wasn't even explained in the story, and they basically retconned it because they showed it as damaged and in Halsey's starting cutscene, he's wearing it fighting a Brute.

Would have been smarter to keep his original MK. VI armor for the campaign, and then either change it to this new version, or change it to something else in Halo 5 game since it's too damaged or broken.

Pretty much this. I like a few elements of the new armor, particularly the touch of using the Braille, but it was an unnecessary visual change not supported by the story.
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Originally Posted by Prinz Eugn

Wasn't there speculation before the game came out that there was some nano-tech in the suit that could let it upgrade itself? It also made sense to me that Cortana could design/implement it being bored as shit floating in space.

A line in The Thursday War notes that the Spartan-IV suits have nanomachines, but them and them only.

In that regarde, I wouldn't mind Thorne getting stuck behind Promethean enemy lines and his suit repairing itself into some awesome Promethean armor while Chief goes on a vision quest with Mendicant Bias and finds out his spirit animal is a Seeker.
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(12-02-2013, 06:42 PM)
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Master Chief's armor should've been explained and it's those finer touches that could've made Halo 4's campaign that much better.

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What do you guys think are the chances we'll finally see these things again?
  • CE Pistol
  • Plasma Stun
  • Reach Grenade Launcher
  • Falcon
  • Chopper
  • Camo Powerup
  • Mk.V at launch
-Parts of the sandbox I hope we receive.
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(12-02-2013, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by daedalius

Just a line in Thursday War alluding to nano upgrades; although you'd think she would have repaired that damage on his chest :p

I personally like the new design, but I guess they didn't really explain some of the changes going from 2 to 3; although this time it was a bit more extreme I suppose. Video game reasons.

While I'm less than happy about some of the new designs I think chief's new armor is awesome.
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(12-02-2013, 06:46 PM)
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Damnit. New Thread.
Deputy Moonman
(12-02-2013, 06:50 PM)
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Did anyone else fill out the survey? I did. Gave me a bit of satisfaction to give several campaign and matchmaking maps/levels 1 star ratings.
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(12-02-2013, 07:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Madness

I hated the fact they changed it at all. Just more of 343 wanting to put their stamp on everything. It wasn't even explained in the story, and they basically retconned it because they showed it as damaged and in Halsey's starting cutscene, he's wearing it fighting a Brute.

Would have been smarter to keep his original MK. VI armor for the campaign, and then either change it to this new version, or change it to something else in Halo 5 game since it's too damaged or broken.

That cinematic really bugged my inner lore fanboy because you can see Elite savaged armor using swords and RIP Covenant transport ships now they get out of the ships like swarm of insects.

Maybe they didnt want to bother in those details and just put chief armor in all the spartans to avoid doing different armors for such a little timed cinematic.

Also they retconed this scene?




StalkerUKCG
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(12-02-2013, 07:07 PM)
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Oh new thread? Halo 5 please
NobleGundam
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(12-02-2013, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Orochinagis

That cinematic really bugged my inner lore fanboy because you can see Elite savaged armor using swords and RIP Covenant transport ships now they get out of the ships like swarm of insects.

Maybe they didnt want to bother in those details and just put chief armor in all the spartans to avoid doing different armors for such a little timed cinematic.

Also they retconed this scene?




How do we know they retconned those scenes? Are they teasers for new Halos to come? Have they elaborated what each scene meant? Why put the new Mk Armor on other Spartans? What's Halsey doing handing Cortana to chief while he was depressed wearing his new armor?

Something doesn't make sense to those scenes and why I haven't seen any developer talk about them just makes it odd.
IHaveIce
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(12-02-2013, 07:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by FUNKNOWN iXi

Master Chief's armor should've been explained and it's those finer touches that could've made Halo 4's campaign that much better.

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What do you guys think are the chances we'll finally see these things again?

  • CE Pistol
  • Plasma Stun
  • Reach Grenade Launcher
  • Falcon
  • Chopper
  • Camo Powerup
  • Mk.V at launch
-Parts of the sandbox I hope we receive.

Like you see in my post one page before I really wish we would get these especially back.

Though I think we won't get the CE pistol, if, we would get a Rifle skinned version of it that behaves like it.
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(12-02-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Orochinagis

That cinematic really bugged my inner lore fanboy because you can see Elite savaged armor using swords and RIP Covenant transport ships now they get out of the ships like swarm of insects.

Maybe they didnt want to bother in those details and just put chief armor in all the spartans to avoid doing different armors for such a little timed cinematic.

Also they retconed this scene?




You know what really and I mean REALLY bother my inner fanboy? THEY ARE USING THE WRONG ARMOR IN THE CINEMATIC!
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(12-02-2013, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by FUNKNOWN iXi

Master Chief's armor should've been explained and it's those finer touches that could've made Halo 4's campaign that much better.

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What do you guys think are the chances we'll finally see these things again?

  • CE Pistol - no
  • Plasma Stun - hell no
  • Reach Grenade Launcher - maybe
  • Falcon - probably some equivalent (possibly replaced with a better handling hornet?)
  • Chopper - maybe some equivalent (forerunner/promethean?)
  • Camo Powerup - maybe (hopefully replaces AA)
  • Mk.V at launch -probably
-Parts of the sandbox I hope we receive.

Marked my opinions in bold italics.

Originally Posted by Deputy Moonman

Did anyone else fill out the survey? I did. Gave me a bit of satisfaction to give several campaign and matchmaking maps/levels 1 star ratings.

Agreed.
IHaveIce
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(12-02-2013, 08:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Deputy Moonman

Did anyone else fill out the survey? I did. Gave me a bit of satisfaction to give several campaign and matchmaking maps/levels 1 star ratings.

Yep, Halo 4's ratings are super low for me.

Originally Posted by wwm0nkey

You know what really and I mean REALLY bother my inner fanboy? THEY ARE USING THE WRONG ARMOR IN THE CINEMATIC!

The whole introduction video is weird, we still have no idea who interviewed her, they never really got onto other spartans, they used the wrong armor

And completely disregarded that another group of humans did the same crime like Halsey with creating Spartan 3s
Tashi
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(12-02-2013, 08:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tawpgun

noice

Top 10 posters though.

ZooJoo top 10, no surprise there
Enfinit
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(12-02-2013, 08:21 PM)
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A little late to the party, but nice work on the |OT|, Ozzy. Survey didn't take as long as I thought it would.
Prinz Eugn
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(12-02-2013, 08:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by daedalius

Just a line in Thursday War alluding to nano upgrades; although you'd think she would have repaired that damage on his chest :p

I personally like the new design, but I guess they didn't really explain some of the changes going from 2 to 3; although this time it was a bit more extreme I suppose. Video game reasons.

Yeah, I got used to the new design and I even kind of like it now. It makes perfect branding sense to change it, to give the Reclaimer non-trilogy its own design, I just (like everyone else) wish they spend two seconds explaining it...
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(12-02-2013, 08:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by IHaveIce

Yep, Halo 4's ratings are super low for me.


The whole introduction video is weird, we still have no idea who interviewed her, they never really got onto other spartans, they used the wrong armor

And completely disregarded that another group of humans did the same crime like Halsey with creating Spartan 3s

Ignoring established lore irks me to no end.
DJ Ghazi
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(12-02-2013, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Prinz Eugn

Yeah, I got used to the new design and I even kind of like it now. It makes perfect branding sense to change it, to give the Reclaimer non-trilogy its own design, I just (like everyone else) wish they spend two seconds explaining it...

I do like the new armor now, the mp armor is atrocious for the most part though. I think they explained the armor thing in a text log on the ship, but I was bothered how Chief never questioned it at all.
Fuchsdh
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(12-02-2013, 08:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by DJ Ghazi

I do like the new armor now, the mp armor is atrocious for the most part though. I think they explained the armor thing in a text log on the ship, but I was bothered how Chief never questioned it at all.

Better to hang a lantern on it than never bother explaining in my book. But it's a self-created issue so I don't have too much sympathy.
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(12-02-2013, 09:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by DJ Ghazi

I think they explained the armor thing in a text log on the ship, but I was bothered how Chief never questioned it at all.

-- I don't think it's ever mentioned. I looked over on the Wiki to remind myself what the logs say, and nothing mentioned the armor.
Tawpgun
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(12-02-2013, 09:09 PM)
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His helmet is ok. The chest is awful.
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(12-02-2013, 09:12 PM)
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I liked the new armor for the most part, I could see why someone might hate the chest or shoulder pads though.
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(12-02-2013, 09:17 PM)
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Mk.V + Halo 2 armor were the best IMO. MC's helmet in Halo 4 was cool, as were some changes like getting rid of the space diaper, but it wasn't until Halo 3 that it became more apparent to me how silly it was designed.
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PentinantTangent
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(12-02-2013, 09:19 PM)
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I also like his helmet. I'm pretty indifferent to the rest of his armor. Remember CodpieceGate, everyone?


I'd say we got more than a cod piece.
Domino Theory
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(12-02-2013, 09:19 PM)
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About time we have a new thread.
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(12-02-2013, 09:32 PM)
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I don't mind the armor as a whole too too much, I just hate the doofy-ass disney-faced chestplate rim thing.
aj1467
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(12-02-2013, 09:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by DJ Ghazi

I think they explained the armor thing in a text log on the ship, but I was bothered how Chief never questioned it at all.

Halo 4 Essential Visual Guide quote coming up

Page 10: "Fully updated by Cortana, this armor resembles an earlier line of Mjolnir Mark IV"

So I guess Cortana remodeled it (nanotech? lulz) to look like one of the three currently known lines of Mark IV, which gives them a way of getting away with not using the other forms of MKIV in the Prologue cinematic.
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(12-02-2013, 09:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Plywood

I liked the new armor for the most part, I could see why someone might hate the chest or shoulder pads though.

He needs better groan armor though. You know, BR shots can hurt man parts.
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(12-02-2013, 09:51 PM)
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Halo 5 Beta access with every new copy of Titan Fall better be announced the VGX. That would only help both franchises in sales and attention.
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(12-02-2013, 10:06 PM)
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Didn't notice the new thread until just now. Hi everyone.

Halo Xbox One trailer pls

edit: Oh yeah, and great OT Ozzy.
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(12-02-2013, 10:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by aj1467

Halo 4 Essential Visual Guide quote coming up

Page 10: "Fully updated by Cortana, this armor resembles an earlier line of Mjolnir Mark IV"

So I guess Cortana remodeled it (nanotech? lulz) to look like one of the three currently known lines of Mark IV, which gives them a way of getting away with not using the other forms of MKIV in the Prologue cinematic.

Well you could also read that as ignoring the differences in Halo 4 and instead explaining the Package/Forward Unto Dawn MkIV variant that was basically a copy-paste of the MkVI. Really wish they had just ignored the Package's aesthetics since they're so borked.

if I had a time machine I would nuke Legends from existence.
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(12-02-2013, 10:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Enfinit

A little late to the party, but nice work on the |OT|, Ozzy. Survey didn't take as long as I thought it would.

Thanks mate, looks like a lot but it's pretty quick. I know some will deliberate their ratings more though so I think it's a bit if fun too. Like Fusch said the interesting part for yourself is seeing it all laid out in simple stars so you can compare your own ratings too.
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(12-02-2013, 10:10 PM)
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http://blog.twitch.tv/2013/12/top-tw...november-2013/

Ctrl+F "Halo"...

:(
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(12-02-2013, 10:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tashi

http://blog.twitch.tv/2013/12/top-tw...november-2013/

Ctrl+F "Halo"...

:(

To be fair to it, none of the titles there are console exclusives, and only 4 are first person shooters.
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(12-02-2013, 11:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Domino Theory

About time we have a new thread.

And the last one never even made it to 20k.
Syphon Filter
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(12-02-2013, 11:06 PM)
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Yea i don't like the chest part mainly for the master chief design in Halo 4. It needs much more armor than just strips. Halo 1-3 had it right. Also i didn't like the shoulder pads looking like they float,it needs to be on him and not coming out like that. Also they should have the back not pop out that much[thrusters] And the black part of the suit should not have those bumps.
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Originally Posted by Syphon Filter

Yea i don't like the chest part mainly for the master chief design in Halo 4. It needs much more armor than just strips. Halo 1-3 had it right. Also i didn't like the shoulder pads looking like they float,it needs to be on him and not coming out like that.

I assume it's supposed to look like that they can do what the books say they can do (run super fast and become Halo Neo, essentially.)

Because let's face it, the Bungie designs didn't look exactly...... flexible.
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(12-02-2013, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by FUNKNOWN iXi

Master Chief's armor should've been explained and it's those finer touches that could've made Halo 4's campaign that much better.

--------------------

What do you guys think are the chances we'll finally see these things again?

  • CE Pistol
  • Plasma Stun
  • Reach Grenade Launcher
  • Falcon
  • Chopper
  • Camo Powerup
  • Mk.V at launch
-Parts of the sandbox I hope we receive.

There were a lot of things which I thought were weird about Halo 4's campaign. How did the Chief and Cortana know the Didact's name again? No one seemed all that surprised to find the Chief after he's been gone for a few years on some random forerunner shield world. Just odd little things which weren't explained much.

Despite this I still thoroughly enjoy it.

I doubt we'll see the CE pistol make a return, it's just a bit too OP.

I'd love to see the Grenade launcher return though, really satisfying to use right. The Falcon and chopper (especially the chopper) are awesome as well, I would love to see them again.


I actually quite liked the Chief's design in 4. I really like the helmet. It was much more imposing than the previous games. The rest of the armour doesn't really bother me.
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(12-02-2013, 11:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by PentinantTangent

I assume it's supposed to look like that they can do what the books say they can do (run super fast and become Halo Neo, essentially.)

Because let's face it, the Bungie designs didn't look exactly...... flexible.

True, but he's still supposed to look like a hulking super soldier. There's a balance that I dunno if either studio managed to nail.

Female Spartans need to eat a few more sandwiches before they hit the war games though.
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Originally Posted by PentinantTangent

I assume it's supposed to look like that they can do what the books say they can do (run super fast and become Halo Neo, essentially.)

Because let's face it, the Bungie designs didn't look exactly...... flexible.

Yea but he actually looks slightly bulkier in Halo 4 so wouldn't that weight him down? The back pops out more and his chest is bigger.
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See when the shoulders are in this angle he looks better since you cant see the shoulders pop out. Also they should bring back the circles on his hand,why did they even change that?






And dat Halo 2 master chief

IHaveIce
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(12-02-2013, 11:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by jem0208

There were a lot of things which I thought were weird about Halo 4's campaign. How did the Chief and Cortana know the Didact's name again? No one seemed all that surprised to find the Chief after he's been gone for a few years on some random forerunner shield world. Just odd little things which weren't explained much.

Despite this I still thoroughly enjoy it.

I doubt we'll see the CE pistol make a return, it's just a bit too OP.

I'd love to see the Grenade launcher return though, really satisfying to use right. The Falcon and chopper (especially the chopper) are awesome as well, I would love to see them again.


I actually quite liked the Chief's design in 4. I really like the helmet. It was much more imposing than the previous games. The rest of the armour doesn't really bother me.

*Sigh*
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(12-02-2013, 11:29 PM)
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I don't mind the new armor, but I wish the chest and shoulder pads were more true to the Halo 2/3 design.

Originally Posted by Orochinagis

That cinematic really bugged my inner lore fanboy because you can see Elite savaged armor using swords and RIP Covenant transport ships now they get out of the ships like swarm of insects.

Maybe they didnt want to bother in those details and just put chief armor in all the spartans to avoid doing different armors for such a little timed cinematic.

Also they retconed this scene?




Oh, I never even realized.. is that supposed to be the same scene?
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Originally Posted by Demoncarnotaur

Oh, I never even realized.. is that supposed to be the same scene?

Yeah, I didn't put that together either.
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(12-02-2013, 11:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by IHaveIce

*Sigh*

Well it's not like it's a super weapon with a 3 shot kill from miles away... ;)
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Originally Posted by Syphon Filter

Yea but he actually looks slightly bulkier in Halo 4 so wouldn't that weight him down? The back pops out more and his chest is bigger.

But there are still separation among the armor pieces. Even it was heavier, the separation among the pieces would still allow for easier movement.
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Originally Posted by Fuchsdh

True, but he's still supposed to look like a hulking super soldier. There's a balance that I dunno if either studio managed to nail.

Female Spartans need to eat a few more sandwiches before they hit the war games though.

I don't think this was the design intent, even in the original.

If so, they did a pretty bad job. Hulking super soldier is not what I think when I see Spartan armor designs.

In h4, at least the design appears to be capable of what they can do in the books; and hulking super soldiers rarely sneak around in stealth mode.

Now Space Marines... that's what I think of when I think "hulking super soldier"
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Originally Posted by daedalius

I don't think this was the design intent, even in the original.

If so, they did a pretty bad job. Hulking super soldier is not what I think when I see Spartan armor designs.

In h4, at least the design appears to be capable of what they can do in the books; and hulking super soldiers rarely sneak around in stealth mode.

Now Space Marines... that's what I think of when I think "hulking super soldier"

Well the space marines of Starcraft and Warhanmer are fantasy cartoon designs. I don't think they're really intended to be a realistic portrayal of any future tech.

While you might have to adjust some parts of the armor to allow all the animations you want, I still prefer CE Chief in basically every way to the successors.

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