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airmangataosenai
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(12-03-2013, 07:57 AM)
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Benghazi me if old:


Can’t we all just get along?

Some have issued a call for peace but the next-generation console war is inevitable. PlayStation 4 fans and Xbox One fans have their own war going, and market research firms and other industry watchers will constantly pit the two consoles against each other as they fight for sales. While the PS4 undoubtedly took an early lead since it launched a week ahead of Microsoft’s new console, it looks like the Xbox One gained some ground and dominated Black Friday sales at two of the biggest retailers in the country.

According to data released Saturday by retail performance tracker InfoScout, Microsoft started out the holiday shopping season with a bang. InfoScout issued its combined console sales estimates for Walmart and Target and found that not only did Xbox One unit sales top the PlayStation 4, Xbox 360 sales did as well.

According to the firm’s data, which is based on the analysis of roughly 83,000 shopping receipts, the Xbox One was the best-selling console at Walmart and Target, accounting for 31 percent of home console sales despite its high price. Incredibly deep discounts on the Xbox 360 pushed it into the No. 2 spot with a 30 percent share of all sales. Together, the consoles combined to give Microsoft a whopping 61 percent of home console sales on Black Friday.

InfoScout reports that the PlayStation 4 and previous-generation PlayStation 3 each took 15 percent of home console sales at Target and Walmart. Nintendo’s struggling Wii U accounted for 6 percent of home video game console sales and the Wii represented just 1 percent of sales at the two retail chains.

The firm’s polling found that consumers cited “too much hype” and high game prices among the top reasons for passing on the PlayStation 4, while the lack of any must-have games was a big complaint among those who did not purchase the Xbox One.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/12/...y-console-war/
ActionRemix
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(12-03-2013, 07:58 AM)
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You forgot the link.
Soulflarz
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(12-03-2013, 07:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by ActionRemix

You forgot the link.

Added?
Mrbob
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(12-03-2013, 07:59 AM)
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Why give foxnews any hits. Dumb article is dumb.
shagg_187
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(12-03-2013, 07:59 AM)
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15th thread about this.
zeopower6
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(12-03-2013, 07:59 AM)
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Title was too long. D:

But as far as I know, most retailers didn't even have PS4s available.
Einbroch
(12-03-2013, 07:59 AM)
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High games prices with the same priced games, F2P offerings, and no micro transactions?

Huehuehue.
ThisWreckage
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(12-03-2013, 08:00 AM)
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I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. The PS4 was probably supply constrained and Americans are a bunch of uneducated, brand loyal consumers that will pay more for less. This is coming from an American too. It's just the case.
dolemite
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(12-03-2013, 08:00 AM)
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InfoScout yet again.
scandisk_
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(12-03-2013, 08:00 AM)
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hah!
eek5
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(12-03-2013, 08:01 AM)
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Small sample size but it beat the 360? Damn. Didn't some retailers have it for $100?

and high game prices

Also I don't get this. It's not like XBO games are cheaper.
GoofsterStud
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(12-03-2013, 08:01 AM)
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This really needs locked.
Aquamarine
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(12-03-2013, 08:01 AM)
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Don't we already have a lot of threads about InfoScout?

Their methodology is suspect as well.
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Dark_castle
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(12-03-2013, 08:01 AM)
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"too much hype"

ethomaz
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(12-03-2013, 08:01 AM)
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Again the same original source with a survey with 3000 guys.
McDougles
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(12-03-2013, 08:02 AM)
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Not only is it the 20th thread today about this, but it's from fucking Fox News. REALLY??
zma1013
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(12-03-2013, 08:02 AM)
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"Too much hype" is quite possibly the dumbest reason to not get something.
vooglie
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(12-03-2013, 08:02 AM)

Originally Posted by GoofsterStud

This really needs locked.

just curious, why? is the data wrong?
Paskil
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(12-03-2013, 08:02 AM)
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XB1 has been libyarated from the tyrant yoke of the PS4's socialist regime.
Juliet's 8½ Spirits
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(12-03-2013, 08:02 AM)
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The actual numbers aren't out yet right? Everyone is basing this on that one survey with the 3000 people, or am I missing some new information?
Speevy
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(12-03-2013, 08:03 AM)
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hahahahhahahhahahhahahahwow
coolasj19
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(12-03-2013, 08:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark_castle

"too much hype"

What did I just read... I... That doesn't make any sense. Maybe it was a question that was loaded in the wrong way.
BlackBuzzard
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(12-03-2013, 08:03 AM)

Originally Posted by vooglie

just curious, why? is the data wrong?

We have had several threads using this info and they all got shutdown.
KoopaTheCasual
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(12-03-2013, 08:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark_castle

"too much hype"

XBO owners are all hipsters, confirmed.

Originally Posted by coolasj19

What did I just read... I... That doesn't make any sense. Maybe it was a question that was loaded in the wrong way.

I feel like the implication of that answer (conveniently omitted) is that since there's so much PS4 hype, it's too hard to find and too much of a hassle. Basically what everyone guessed: supply constrained. It's not like PS4s are sitting on shelves and being passed up.
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JLeack
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(12-03-2013, 08:03 AM)
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This would be great. I know lots of gamers want the Xbox One to fail, but as an owner I love the device. It's excellent, really.
BroBuzz
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(12-03-2013, 08:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by vooglie

just curious, why? is the data wrong?

Because this has been posted numerous times before and the threads always end up having console-war bullshit in them.
Skilletor
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(12-03-2013, 08:04 AM)
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1. This is like the 5th time this thread has been posted.
2. I think that if this was true, MS would have come out first thing with sales stats. They barely waited 24 hours to announce they'd sold 1 million consoles WW in 24 hours. lol
Steroyd
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The firm’s polling found that consumers cited “too much hype” and high game prices among the top reasons for passing on the PlayStation 4, while the lack of any must-have games was a big complaint among those who did not purchase the Xbox One.

What!?
GoofsterStud
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(12-03-2013, 08:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by vooglie

just curious, why? is the data wrong?

It's based on erroneous data that's been locked over and over again. We need something official like NPD and not 3000 people, and the reasons are even more insulting.

Since when has America been turned off by too much hype.

Apple and Samsung cellphones are doomed by the reasoning.
Raonak
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(12-03-2013, 08:07 AM)
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too much hype.

wow. sony should start implementing DRM or some shit to calm down the hype before it becomes a real problem.


I feel there's good photoshop oppotinuties here.

Last edited by Raonak; 12-03-2013 at 08:09 AM.
HMC
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(12-03-2013, 08:07 AM)
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"The firm’s polling found that consumers cited “too much hype”'

So many zealots shitting on the One are driving people to it.
Radec
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(12-03-2013, 08:07 AM)
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The one thing I don't like about the PS4 is that it's almost too much hype!
graywolf323
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(12-03-2013, 08:07 AM)
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too much hype? did they interview hipsters or what?
UberTag
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(12-03-2013, 08:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Juliet's 8½ Spirits

The actual numbers aren't out yet right? Everyone is basing this on that one survey with the 3000 people, or am I missing some new information?

Sales numbers are what we used to base a console's success last gen.
This is the next gen way of doing things.

InfoScout now outranks NPD, PAL Charts and Media Create.
Think of them like Nielsen ratings.
Only InfoScout and Metacritic will be referenced to highlight performance going forward.
Last edited by UberTag; 12-03-2013 at 08:12 AM.
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(12-03-2013, 08:07 AM)
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The firm’s polling found that consumers cited “too much hype” and high game prices among the top reasons for passing on the PlayStation 4

Cow Goes Moo
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(12-03-2013, 08:08 AM)
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too much hype!
Derrick01
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(12-03-2013, 08:08 AM)
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With fox news behind this article I don't doubt for a second they're pulling the 'murica vs japan argument here.
shagg_187
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(12-03-2013, 08:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by vooglie

just curious, why? is the data wrong?

Its based on a survey of 3000 people. There is no fact used here on how much they sold because they were *gasp* both sold out.

Using this superficial "estimate and survey" based on "too much hype" is hilariously misleading.
Dapperk
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(12-03-2013, 08:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by GoofsterStud

It's based on erroneous data that's been locked over and over again. We need something official like NPD and not 3000 people, and the reasons are even more insulting.

Since when has America been turned off by too much hype.

Apple and Samsung cellphones are doomed by the reasoning.

I don't know what the 3000 people survey thing is being talked about but the article says

According to the firm’s data, which is based on the analysis of roughly 83,000 shopping receipts

Which sound more legit than a poll, or am I missing something.
shagg_187
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(12-03-2013, 08:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dapperk

I don't know what the 3000 people survey thing is being talked about but the article says



Which sound more legit than a poll, or am I missing something.

Nope.

InfoScout collected over 83,000 receipts from 3,000 people who shopped only at Walmart and Target on Black Friday. That doesn't mean 83,000 PS4 or Xbox One were sold. That doesn't mean that all 3000 people bought PS4 or Xbox One.

Faux is Fauxing.
Last edited by shagg_187; 12-03-2013 at 08:15 AM.
Triple U
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(12-03-2013, 08:14 AM)
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Survey data is pretty worthless in this respect. You usually get complete data for black friday, why not just wait for that instead of extrapolating?
HMC
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(12-03-2013, 08:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

Nope.

InfoScout collected over 83,000 receipts from 3,000 people who shopped only at Walmart and Target on Black Friday.

Faux is Fauxing.

Wait. They collected an average of 27 receipts per person?
BlackBuzzard
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(12-03-2013, 08:14 AM)
I expect them to release the numbers today, last year Major Nelson released the 27th which was on a Tuesday.
shagg_187
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(12-03-2013, 08:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by HMC

Wait. They collected an average of 27 receipts per person?

Which is where this gets ridiculous.
KoopaTheCasual
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(12-03-2013, 08:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

Nope.

InfoScout collected over 83,000 receipts from 3,000 people who shopped only at Walmart and Target on Black Friday. That doesn't mean 83,000 PS4 or Xbox One were sold. That doesn't mean that all 3000 people bought PS4 or Xbox One.

Faux is Fauxing.

lol wow, that's bullshit reporting. So there actually is zero new information of any kind in this article? womp womp.
UNCMark
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(12-03-2013, 08:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by ThisWreckage

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. The PS4 was probably supply constrained and Americans are a bunch of uneducated, brand loyal consumers that will pay more for less. This is coming from an American too. It's just the case.

So you're admitting your response is that of an uneducated brand loyalist?
nubbe
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(12-03-2013, 08:16 AM)
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I regret buying a PS4, it is just too much awesome
Will get Xbones instead, much less awesome
Rixa
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(12-03-2013, 08:22 AM)
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All pub is good pub? Even if it is 15th time for the Infoscout.
Before this case Ive never heard about that company, now I even see nightmares about infoscout.

Thanks for the too mucho information.
pushBAK
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(12-03-2013, 08:22 AM)
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I'm excited for 'too much hype' being used on GAF. Passed on Wii U this Christmas? Too much hype.

Gold.
keuja
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(12-03-2013, 08:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by airmangataosenai

Benghazi me if old:


The firm’s polling found that consumers cited “too much hype” and high game prices among the top reasons for passing on the PlayStation 4

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/12/...y-console-war/

Are PS4 games more expensive than XBone games?

PS4 over delivering on hype.

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