I really prefer the ps4 interface. It's fast and easy to navigate. I have had pretty much the same complaints as in the op from day 1. This gen I will probably stick with ps4 for all multiplat games and just play exclusives on xbox one.
How is this possible? There has to be some way to manually delete content, right?You can’t view or manage storage, a spectacularly poor decision given that the 500GB hard drive will be approaching capacity by March.
Beta tested in the future. Yeah, the UI is pretty bad. It looks cool, it's good to control with voice but if you're actually searching something it's bad. Everything feels incoherent. And I'm still not sure why I should use Snap. Especially when the most important stuff like achievements or Youtube doesn't even support Snap. Or TV. It would be cool to have the cable box connected to the X1 but I have to actually turn on the X1 just to watch TV? LOL.
I don't get why they changed so much in the first place. NXE on 360 is brilliant, despite putting games behind media. NXE with minor adjustments here and there and you have your great X1 UI. Just look at the store. It took five years to get a decent store on 360 and what do they offer for X1? Something that is even more barebone than 360 was eight years ago. You can't even sort stuff for genres or alphabetically. It's all just a huge wall of icons. It feels like something put together in two weeks and that's probably true. Boy, this is a rushed launch. But they turned 360 into a wholly new experience and I think that given some months, X1 UI will turn out just fine. And not just the beta version it is now (do Avatars actually have any use outside of taking gamer pictures). This is early days, in a year that UI will be totally different. I hope.
I don't get why they changed so much in the first place. NXE on 360 is brilliant, despite putting games behind media. NXE with minor adjustments here and there and you have your great X1 UI. Just look at the store. It took five years to get a decent store on 360 and what do they offer for X1? Something that is even more barebone than 360 was eight years ago. You can't even sort stuff for genres or alphabetically. It's all just a huge wall of icons. It feels like something put together in two weeks and that's probably true. Boy, this is a rushed launch. But they turned 360 into a wholly new experience and I think that given some months, X1 UI will turn out just fine. And not just the beta version it is now (do Avatars actually have any use outside of taking gamer pictures). This is early days, in a year that UI will be totally different. I hope.
Windows 8 continues to be disastrous for Microsoft. Not surprising, but I hope the UI gets a major overhaul in the New Year.
Such a shit UI for an entertainment console released in 2013.
You select what you want to delete and hit the menu button. One of the pop-up options is 'delete'. You see how big the game is, but you can't see your total or free storage space. Also no savegame management.How is this possible? There has to be some way to manually delete content, right?
Like every other MS software product...
Wait for service pack 1.
Wait for service pack 1.
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The Windows 8 GUI is simply horrible for a desktop system. I really dislike it. As far as possible I boot straight to desktop.
Having this on a game console would be equally terrible. Bring back the blades. They were easy to use an quick.
Having this on a game console would be equally terrible. Bring back the blades. They were easy to use an quick.
from what ive used of the system, it is a cluster fuck with controller, serviceable with voice and a step back from the 360 in general.
It has "designed by committee" written all over it and while it still does feel more "premium" than the PS4 its a lot less useable overall.
I think the whole thing will need an overhaul in a few years time, but Microsoft still is the company that I feel is best equipped to do so.
It has "designed by committee" written all over it and while it still does feel more "premium" than the PS4 its a lot less useable overall.
I think the whole thing will need an overhaul in a few years time, but Microsoft still is the company that I feel is best equipped to do so.
You know that's exactly the vibe I got when I first saw their UI. I didn't really want to get into the dicussion but found it very peculiar when people were saying MS has the superior UI. I mean I saw pretty boxes but I also saw too many, PS4 UI looks simple but that's exactly what you want, simplicity.It looks like an improvement. And as long as you aren’t actually using it, it is.
Yeah, an updated version of the blades would be awesome.Originally Posted by cyberheater
The Windows 8 GUI is simply horrible for a desktop system. I really dislike it. As far as possible I boot straight to desktop.
Having this on a game console would be equally terrible. Bring back the blades. They were easy to use an quick.
It is prett darn terrible. It takes far too many button presses to do the simplest of things.
My man. The blades were really cool and to me felt next-gen when I got my launch unit. It was fast and just looked neat. When they went with Metro, it slowly started to turn me off as it became too stuffed and loaded with so much irrelevant bullshit. I bought another 360 a few months ago, mainly to play Halo 4, and it just reminded me how much I disliked the new interface as well as how annoying the avatars are-- coupled with the fact that I thought Halo 4 was dogshit, I didn't hold onto it for long.Originally Posted by Nicktendo86
For me, the 360 dashboard got worse after every update since the one that changed from the blades. The current sort of windows 8ish tiles interface is a pain IMHO and, from that I've seen of the Xbone's dash, it seems to follow a similar style.
It is. Everything is auto-managed. I know that for a fact, I now have 39GBs of Ryse on my HDD that was installed for caching from a friend's disk, and I'll never wipe that off, any recorded video, saves, etc unless I actually fill up the drive.That can't be right surely?! How does that work with game saves? They just store everything in the cloud?
I actually navigate the OS just fine without voice controls. I unplugged my Kinect the minute the day 1 update was done, and it hasn't been taken back out of the box since. But I feel like the only reason I'm even remotely able to navigate this utter clusterf... of an OS is that I'm used to wrangling my way through UIs on various technologies and have learned where and how to look for things.That's one I noticed too, but most puzzling was the real reliance on voice control to navigate the OS quickly. Xbox take screenshot vs. Snapping game dvr is kinda odd.
That being said, this OS is complete, utter garbage. As someone else stated, it's like they literally took EVERYTHING that worked like gangbusters on the 360 and said "Oh wait, that worked? Well we better not include THAT then! Let's start over, weeeeee!" and off they went.
It also stinks to high heaven that they are trying to push the whole Windows 8 ecosystem on the market at large. Since people aren't adopting their tablets in droves, or their smartphones for that matter, they hope they can convince us it's worth our time by forcing it via the one product some of us want, the XB1. Get us 'used' to it there, and maybe we'll be more likely to buy other Win8 based products? Sorry MS, but no.
Don't get me wrong, I had a blas playing DR3, and am still enjoying KI and Forza. The games are just fine (even if they could've been better without shoehorning Kinect into the mix at the expense of the console overall). But the user interface is mind bogglingly screwed up, which makes absolutely no sense considering the ease of use of the 360 interface and how smoothly everything 'just worked' there.
I spend as little time as possible navigating the OS now, and I don't even BOTHER looking at my achievements anymore because they made that simple task much more complicated and off-putting than it needs to be. Lists of any type should NEVER be side-scrolling.... sheesh.
The last paragraph is really weird.
That will be a major back-end update. It does not mean that we will not get updates prior to that. The fact that these features are now apps suggest frequent updates to me.stay positive.
you might have to wait till 2015 .. for "Treshold"
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/2/51...ows-phone-xbox
I should probably have made it clearer that my favourite version was the one AFTER the blades, the one where you could navigate up/down and then left/right. Was that the first version of the NXE? Anyway I feel since that point they have regressed and pushed games past the media features. Sounds like some decisions on Xbone are baffling, moving achievements to it's own 'app'? WTF?It is, the ads on the blades actually used much more space than NXE does.
"Baffling incompetence" seems harsh (if not click bait). There is a lot to be said about the current state of the UI, but most of it can be attributed to a rushed state, which was to be expected if only for all the last minute changes.
The only thing that can be considered as a real issue in my opinion, is the lack of a "guide" equivalent, ie a shortcut to major features. That is a step back compared to the 360 that seems to be part of the new design (and actually you could use kinect as a shortcut, but it's not the same thing).
The only thing that can be considered as a real issue in my opinion, is the lack of a "guide" equivalent, ie a shortcut to major features. That is a step back compared to the 360 that seems to be part of the new design (and actually you could use kinect as a shortcut, but it's not the same thing).
Not surprising. The Xbox UI has been getting prettier but less useable ever since the 360 Blades were dropped
At least it looks like they've slightly dropped back the ads though?
At least it looks like they've slightly dropped back the ads though?
So it wasn't rushed out to compete with the PS4 this Christmas. Interesting, very interesting.
Bullshit, wonky party chat system, loss of party invites and game invites and over all clumsiness of the UI has really made it a challenge to be an Xbox One owner.
This shit is ridiculous.
This shit is ridiculous.
Yes every game and app is an icon that has a a menu. There it tells you how big it is and you can delete it. However there is no way to delete saves.How is this possible? There has to be some way to manually delete content, right?
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Are there ads on the interface yet? Ads for things that are not sold in the marketplace?
It is pretty baffling how much stuff was left out for launch. They will improve it over time i'm sure but they should have just phoned it in like Sony did with theirs so it at least looked like it was an improvement. :P I have both systems and clearly the X1 OS is the much more ambitious OS but that also means it looks like the one that is clearly not all there.
Haven't tried the XBO either, but I agree it's one of the worst aspects of the Vita experience. Hopefully the Vita gets updated with a UI much more like the PS4s somewhere down the line.Originally Posted by JoeTheBlow
This is one thing i HATE about the Vita.
And love that they haven't gone this way for PS4, even the store is part of the OS, everything so slick.
Can't comment on Xbone, never used one, but god do i hate Metro.
Sad to hear MS fucked up this bad. Sony certainly improved their UI extremely. It's almost as good as the 360 UI used to be before MS fucked it up too.
I question if it's actually deleted it though, or just a matter of deleting the icon off your screen. There's no way to confirm that.Yes every game and app is an icon that has a a menu. There it tells you how big it is and you can delete it. However there is no way to delete saves.
I don't understand why edge need to talk about titanfall in an article dedicated to console interfaces.
Comes by no surprise. Whoever believed that MS is able to put out a great functional OS catering to the needs fo the system and the users must have been completly asleep the last few years.
The whole "XB1 is THE multimedia console mantra" of the mainstream media is annoying. It only shows how powerful PR is these days because instead of testing it, they are just writing what's in the PR message. PS4 is not only the more powerful gaming console but potentially also the better streaming/multmedia device because it's not overloaden with unnecessary features.
The whole "XB1 is THE multimedia console mantra" of the mainstream media is annoying. It only shows how powerful PR is these days because instead of testing it, they are just writing what's in the PR message. PS4 is not only the more powerful gaming console but potentially also the better streaming/multmedia device because it's not overloaden with unnecessary features.
However accurate this assessment is, PS4's UI isn't exactly anything to write home about either.
That said, it has the benefit of not relying on voice commands. XBO's UI really seems tailored to rely on that, which makes actually controlling navigation 'manually' stagnated/weird.
That said, it has the benefit of not relying on voice commands. XBO's UI really seems tailored to rely on that, which makes actually controlling navigation 'manually' stagnated/weird.
I don't love the UI, but I could deal with it... if it wasn't so damned slow.
After seeing all the missteps they made designing the Windows 8 interface for PCs, I can't say I'm surprised they also fucked up the XB1's.
A blind person can see that Metro's design was created with touch screens in mind - putting it on Xbox One is like pushing a toy square block into a toy round hole
I think it was a huge mistake to put the enforcement of a new, modern corporate design above actual usability. A smartphone needs a smartphone UI design, a TV needs a TV UI design and a console needs a console UI design, especially since the way most people interact with it is with a controller.
They probably relied too much thinking that most people would use the voice commands to navigate through the menus, but I can't imagine a person who plays a lot doing that since button commands are much fast
Knowing Microsoft, they'll probably redo the entire interface in 2-3 years I think like they did with the Xbox 360 several times
I think it was a huge mistake to put the enforcement of a new, modern corporate design above actual usability. A smartphone needs a smartphone UI design, a TV needs a TV UI design and a console needs a console UI design, especially since the way most people interact with it is with a controller.
They probably relied too much thinking that most people would use the voice commands to navigate through the menus, but I can't imagine a person who plays a lot doing that since button commands are much fast
Knowing Microsoft, they'll probably redo the entire interface in 2-3 years I think like they did with the Xbox 360 several times
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