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Dr. Kitty Muffins
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(12-03-2013, 03:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by LilWayneSuckz

I think a beta is a given and it will most likely be announced at the VGX but,


The Destiny beta, if released around the same period, would be enough to sate the shooter appetite of PS4 owners (who don't care for Killzone, Battlefield or CoD)

A beta battle is brewing. Lol
Lunzio
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(12-03-2013, 03:48 PM)
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Beta would be smart.
GeoGonzo
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(12-03-2013, 03:49 PM)
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Microsoft would be wise to push towards an XBO only beta. If it ends up on PC I'd gladly give it a try, though.
Ol No Bones
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(12-03-2013, 03:49 PM)
What game is going to come with the halo 5 beta though?
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(12-03-2013, 03:51 PM)
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SANTA CLAUSS, YOU BE A GOOD SANTA AND DELIVER ME THIS BETA AT NEW YEAR'S EVE!!
Think Different
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(12-03-2013, 03:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Boogdud

Watch PC release be at least 6 months behind the bone. Gotta push dat exclusivity y'all.

It's been announced that they will launch the same day already.
iJudged
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(12-03-2013, 03:51 PM)
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Totally forgot about this beauty, excited woooo, beta? Yes please eee....
BruiserBear
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(12-03-2013, 03:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Doffen

Do you have a source to this statement?

I think it's pretty clear at this point Titanfall is not going to run at 1080p on XB1. Hell, I'd be thrilled if it even runs at 900p.

It's most likely going to be 720p though.
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(12-03-2013, 03:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Prince Vultan

Not sure why the game is expected to be a system seller for Xbox One when it isn't exclusive. If people can get it on their 360(Which most likely they already have) or PC, what incentive is there to spend money on an incredibly expensive console to play it? On there it'll be neither the cheapest nor best way to play the game, only the most expensive way to play it.

Besides which, I seriously think a lot of people, most especially the media, are way overestimating gamers' willingness to pay full retail price for a multiplayer only shooter... most especially when it comes to console gamers.

But it will be marketed like an Xbone exclusive, and they'll probably fool a lot of consumers into thinking it is.
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(12-03-2013, 03:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by BruiserBear

I think it's pretty clear at this point Titanfall is not going to run at 1080p on XB1. Hell, I'd be thrilled if it even runs at 900p.

It's most likely going to be 720p though.

Titanfall running at 720p on the X1 would be disastrous. It'd mean there's definitely an issue with the console, and the difference between it and the 360 version wouldn't even be that big. Has to be at least 900p (which is still pretty bad, Titanfall isn't a very pretty game, and it's running on a very old modified source).

Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

But it will be marketed like an Xbone exclusive, and they'll probably fool a lot of consumers into thinking it is.

The 360 version will sell the best, the PC version will be the best. It'll move a few X1s, but I think people are seriously overestimating it's effect. The COD bro it's targeting won't upgrade if they can get it on their 360s, where most of their other COD bros still are.
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(12-03-2013, 03:53 PM)
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I dont think TitanFall is going to match its hype. I think it will he good though.
BruiserBear
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(12-03-2013, 03:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

Titanfall running at 720p on the X1 would be disastrous. It'd mean there's definitely an issue with the console, and the difference between it and the 360 version wouldn't even be that big. Has to be at least 900p (which is still pretty bad, Titanfall isn't a very pretty game, and it's running on a very old modified source).

Your hyperbole is a bit much.
Hindle
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(12-03-2013, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

Titanfall running at 720p on the X1 would be disastrous. It'd mean there's definitely an issue with the console, and the difference between it and the 360 version wouldn't even be that big. Has to be at least 900p (which is still pretty bad, Titanfall isn't a very pretty game, and it's running on a very old modified source).



The 360 version will sell the best, the PC version will be the best. It'll move a few X1s, but I think people are seriously overestimating it's effect. The COD bro it's targeting won't upgrade if they can get it on their 360s, where most of their other COD bros still are.

You post the same bullshit in every single Titanfall thread. Wow, you must really hate MS for securing this game as exclusive lol.
iJudged
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(12-03-2013, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by BruiserBear

Your hyperbole is a bit much.

Beat me to it.
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(12-03-2013, 04:00 PM)
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Hope its a 360 beta... since that's where the most people will probably buy it... and if you want people to buy an XB1 for Titanfall what better way than to let the people who haven't jumped to next gen yet play this beta and get them thinking "this will be even better if I spend the $500"

but really I just want it on 360 so I can play it.
Ol No Bones
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(12-03-2013, 04:00 PM)

Originally Posted by mechphree

I dont think TitanFall is going to match its hype. I think it will he good though.

I have yet to read anyone who has played it who has not been wowed. I'm tempering my expectations but I don't expect a mediocre game either.
Dragonborn
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(12-03-2013, 04:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hindle

You post the same bullshit in every single Titanfall thread. Wow, you must really hate MS for securing this game as exclusive lol.

Nah, I really don't. I'll be getting it on PC (or maybe 360) so it's no issue for me. It's just fun speculating what it's effect will be, and I personally believe it won't be as big for the X1 as others. Still, I could be very wrong so there's that. No need to take offense to it, I'm not saying it won't be a good game (I wouldn't be buying it if I thought it would), just debating it's effect on the X1's sales.

Originally Posted by BruiserBear

Your hyperbole is a bit much.

Maybe, but what res could the X360 version be? Maybe 540p, which isn't that far off from 720p. The difference between 720 and 1080 is even bigger than those which is what I meant. I think they'll get it to at least 900p, there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't be able to.
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(12-03-2013, 04:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

The 360 version will sell the best, the PC version will be the best. It'll move a few X1s, but I think people are seriously overestimating it's effect. The COD bro it's targeting won't upgrade if they can get it on their 360s, where most of their other COD bros still are.

I agree that it will likely sell best on the 360. Though I'd bet that when Titanfall releases it has one of the highest, if not the highest, attach rates of any game on next gen. I know it's on PC also, but I feel like the lead platform on this game is the X1 (at least it's being marketed that way).
Kaako
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(12-03-2013, 04:01 PM)
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PC beta or bust.
zainetor
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(12-03-2013, 04:03 PM)
If its 720p on xb1, then the 360 version will be 99% sub720.
Morzak
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(12-03-2013, 04:04 PM)
If the beta will be available without pre-ordering or buying another game I'm not interestet in, I will certainly check it out on PC, It's the most interesting MP shooter of the high profile ones IMO,
Hindle
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(12-03-2013, 04:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by DagnastyEp

I agree that it will likely sell best on the 360. Though I'd bet that when Titanfall releases it has one of the highest, if not the highest, attach rates of any game on next gen. I know it's on PC also, but I feel like the lead platform on this game is the X1 (at least it's being marketed that way).

MS and EA won't even mention the 360 version with the marketing for this game. On top of this, I expect they wont ship that many copies of the 360 port, but ship plenty of the X1. Software sales for the 360 seem to be declining as well, hence why I think Titanfall will sell the X1.
Agent AA1
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(12-03-2013, 04:08 PM)
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If the Beta was a launch thing...it would be epic
Phreaker
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(12-03-2013, 04:10 PM)
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I thought I had already heard or read that you will get into the beta if you pre-order it.
BruiserBear
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(12-03-2013, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

Maybe, but what res could the X360 version be? Maybe 540p, which isn't that far off from 720p. The difference between 720 and 1080 is even bigger than those which is what I meant. I think they'll get it to at least 900p, there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't be able to.

360 version will probably run at 600p or maybe even worse. Respawn wasn't even willing to promise the 360 version would be 60fps in an interview months back. So we have no idea how that will turn out, but it's probably not going to be great.

The differences will not stop at resolution though, and you seem to be ignoring that fact. The lighting, textures, effects, will all be better on the XB1 version, so even if the resolutions end up being 600p vs 720p, (which I think they will), the XB1 version is still going to look significantly better.
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(12-03-2013, 04:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hindle

MS and EA won't even mention the 360 version with the marketing for this game. On top of this, I expect they wont ship that many copies of the 360 port, but ship plenty of the X1. Software sales for the 360 seem to be declining as well, hence why I think Titanfall will sell the X1.

If that were to happen then I'd agree with you, but why would EA neglect an 80 million install base? 360 software still sells very well and a big game like Titanfall would surely move a lot of units. I see no reason why EA would take a 3-4 million userbase over the massive amount of 360s out there. And yea, it'll be marketed for X1, but people will know it's on 360. CoD is marketed for the 360, barely even mentions the PS3 version yet it still sells millions on the PlayStation

Originally Posted by BruiserBear

360 version will probably run at 600p or maybe even worse. Respawn wasn't even willing to promise the 360 version would be 60fps in an interview months back. So we have no idea how that will turn out, but it's probably not going to be great.

The differences will not stop at resolution though, and you seem to be ignoring that fact. The lighting, textures, effects, will all be better on the XB1 version, so even if the resolutions end up being 600p vs 720p, (which I think they will), the XB1 version is still going to look significantly better.

True, it's all speculation until we actually see what the differences are. Still, I'm pretty certain they should be able to do 900p.
Pistolero
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(12-03-2013, 04:16 PM)
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Not interested by the game in the slightest, but even I can see the appeal and the potential buzz it can create.
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

If that were to happen then I'd agree with you, but why would EA neglect an 80 million install base? 360 software still sells very well and a big game like Titanfall would surely move a lot of units. I see no reason why EA would take a 3-4 million userbase over the massive amount of 360s out there. And yea, it'll be marketed for X1, but people will know it's on 360. CoD is marketed for the 360, barely even mentions the PS3 version yet it still sells millions on the PlayStation

Because they want this franchise to be one of the biggest for the current gen. They will want as many sales as possible on the Xbox One.
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(12-03-2013, 04:17 PM)
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I highly doubt there will be a PC beta, especially with their last representation of effort they had done for the platform.
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(12-03-2013, 04:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

True, it's all speculation until we actually see what the differences are. Still, I'm pretty certain they should be able to do 900p.

There is lots of evidence to suggest it won't be 900p.
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

Titanfall running at 720p on the X1 would be disastrous. It'd mean there's definitely an issue with the console, and the difference between it and the 360 version wouldn't even be that big. Has to be at least 900p (which is still pretty bad, Titanfall isn't a very pretty game, and it's running on a very old modified source).



The 360 version will sell the best, the PC version will be the best. It'll move a few X1s, but I think people are seriously overestimating it's effect. The COD bro it's targeting won't upgrade if they can get it on their 360s, where most of their other COD bros still are.

Lawl, "disastrous"

I expect it to look 'adequate' but play like a motherfucker and that's plenty good enough for me. Managed a quick go at eurogamer and that was enough to hook me, especially as Ghosts had left me a little cold this year (I'm addicted to bf4 this time around).

My baby's due 3 weeks after release though so I don't think I'm going to have much time to play it :(
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(12-03-2013, 04:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hindle

Because they want this franchise to be one of the biggest for the current gen. They will want as many sales as possible on the Xbox One.

FTFY. Your devotion to the One is admirable but seriously, you reckon EA won't push hard for 360 and PC sales?
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

The 360 version will sell the best, the PC version will be the best. It'll move a few X1s, but I think people are seriously overestimating it's effect. The COD bro it's targeting won't upgrade if they can get it on their 360s, where most of their other COD bros still are.

But what about Battlefield bros? Why limit your bro-market? Or how about all of the women that play COD? Are they not welcome to Titanfall because they're not a "bro"?

Don't care about Titanfall's resolution. Only thing that matters is if it's fun to play. 1080p means nothing if the game is boring. Looking forward to the beta, if there is one, to see how fun it is.
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(12-03-2013, 04:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by BruiserBear

There is lots of evidence to suggest it won't be 900p.

Wasn't it just a rumor? I may have missed something. If Ryse can do 900p, I don't see why Titanfall shouldn't be able to do at least as much. It's a pretty standard looking game.

Originally Posted by Hindle

Because they want this franchise to be one of the biggest for the current gen. They will want as many sales as possible on the Xbox One.

Yea, but why not both? I don't think it'll move as many X1s as others, but it will most definitely still sell very well to whatever the install base is by that time (should be 3 to 4 million). Like someone else on this thread said, it'll have a big attach rate on X1

Originally Posted by JustinMay

All the stars line up for ignoring that guy.

1. Posting really dumb shit that even he doesn't believe.

2. Anime avatar.

Hit ignore, move on. No reason to respond to/derail the thread over that kind of bullshit.


I'm pretty sure I believe what I'm saying, unless you somehow know me better than I do. As for the second point, lol.

I want to reiterate what I said before, I, in no way believe Titanfall will be a bad game! I will be buying it and it looks friggen awesome. All I'm talking about is it's effect on the X1's sales, which is all speculation on my part, just like everyone else. For all I know, it sell all it's copies on X1 and none on the other, there's no way to know until it launches. I don't get why you're getting so upset over that dude.
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JustinMay
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Originally Posted by Hindle

You post the same bullshit in every single Titanfall thread. Wow, you must really hate MS for securing this game as exclusive lol.

All the stars line up for ignoring that guy.

1. Posting really dumb shit that even he doesn't believe.

2. Anime avatar.

Hit ignore, move on. No reason to respond to/derail the thread over that kind of bullshit.
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(12-03-2013, 04:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by heliconsoul

FTFY. Your devotion to the One is admirable but seriously, you reckon EA won't push hard for 360 and PC sales?

What has the first part of your comment got to do with anything?

As for your actual question, I think EA are going to push the X1 version the most. As like I stated, they want Titanfall to be one of this gens biggest franchises. If they pushed the 360 version then that would be counter productive don't you think?
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Originally Posted by BruiserBear

There is lots of evidence to suggest it won't be 900p.

It runs on a very old engine and displays modest graphics. I see no reason for it not to hit 1080p...
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Originally Posted by Hindle

As like I stated, they want Titanfall to be one of this gens biggest franchises. If they pushed the 360 version then that would be counter productive don't you think?

I think they'd be very happy with a bucketload of 360 sales, not everyone will own a One by the time Titanfall comes out. Hell, they could use a cross-generation upgrade system a la CoD and it'll be gravy.

If what you are saying is true why are they even bothering with a 360 version?
Archpath1
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(12-03-2013, 04:31 PM)
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Preordering dat beta. Then upgrade to the real game :p
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

Wasn't it just a rumor? I may have missed something. If Ryse can do 900p, I don't see why Titanfall shouldn't be able to do at least as much. It's a pretty standard looking game.

The makeup of the XB1's GPU and memory make it very difficult for most game engines to achieve higher than 720p at 60fps. Ryse runs at 30fps, which makes it much easier to hit 900p.

Forza is the only XB1 game to hit 1080p at 60fps, and that game was designed entirely around the XB1 hardware. It required the game engine to be written around that goal for the XB1 specifically.

Titanfall has not been designed around the XB1 entirely, and thus I suspect it's going to be 720p at 60fps. Also, there were rumors a month or two ago that suggested Titanfall would be 720p on XB1, and even Mark Rubin from Infinity Ward said it in an interview, and yet we never saw Respawn just put up a simple tweet saying what resolution the game runs at. It's extremely easy to do that, and yet we've heard nothing but silence on this topic. To me that is all but confirmation Titanfall is going to be 720p on XB1.


Originally Posted by Pistolero

It runs on a very old engine and displays modest graphics. I see no reason for it not to hit 1080p...

It runs on a very old, but heavily modified version of the Source engine. It's not the same low requirement engine you're thinking of from years ago.
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Originally Posted by heliconsoul

I think they'd be very happy with a bucketload of 360 sales, not everyone will own a One by the time Titanfall comes out. Hell, they could use a cross-generation upgrade system a la CoD and it'll be gravy.

If what you are saying is true why are they even bothering with a 360 version?

My theory for the 360 version is they're covering thier backs incase the X1 version doesn't take off, or in general the game fails to generate hype.
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Originally Posted by BruiserBear

The makeup of the XB1's GPU and memory make it very difficult for most game engines to achieve higher than 720p at 60fps. Ryse runs at 30fps, which makes it much easier to hit 900p.

Forza is the only XB1 game to hit 1080p at 60fps, and that game was designed entirely around the XB1 hardware. It required the game engine to be written around that goal for the XB1 specifically.

Titanfall has not been designed around the XB1 entirely, and thus I suspect it's going to be 720p at 60fps. Also, there were rumors a month or two ago that suggested Titanfall would be 720p on XB1, and even Mark Rubin from Infinity Ward said it in an interview, and yet we never saw Respawn just put up a simple tweet saying what resolution the game runs at. It's extremely easy to do that, and yet we've heard nothing but silence on this topic. To me that is all but confirmation Titanfall is going to be 720p on XB1.

But I thought the X1 was the lead with Titanfall. As in, they're pretty much building the game for it, and then moving it to PC (or am I mistaken?). Maybe they're still trying to figure out what resolution to go with hence the silence on it?

I still think launch games had the disadvantage of having to work with the X1's hardware, hence the initial difference, but by the time Titanfall is coming out, that shouldn't be an issue anymore, or at least I would hope so.
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The makeup of the XB1's GPU and memory make it very difficult for most game engines to achieve higher than 720p at 60fps. Ryse runs at 30fps, which makes it much easier to hit 900p.

Forza is the only XB1 game to hit 1080p at 60fps, and that game was designed entirely around the XB1 hardware. It required the game engine to be written around that goal for the XB1 specifically.

I'm pretty sure FIFA 14 is 1080p & 60fps, I thought one of the NBA games was also?
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Originally Posted by Dragonborn

But I thought the X1 was the lead with Titanfall. As in, they're pretty much building the game for it, and then moving it to PC (or am I mistaken?). Maybe they're still trying to figure out what resolution to go with hence the silence on it?

I still think launch games had the disadvantage of having to work with the X1's hardware, hence the initial difference, but by the time Titanfall is coming out, that shouldn't be an issue anymore, or at least I would hope so.

The game has mostly been shown running on PCs with controllers hooked up to them. I believe the PC is kind of the lead platform for the most part.

From what smart people have said on this topic, including many here on Gaf, this isn't entirely a matter of launch difficulties. The actual makeup of the XB1 hardware is going to make 1080p/60fps a huge challenge. Even 900p/60fps is going to be very difficult.

As I've said, I'm really hoping Titanfall shows up on XB1 at 900p/60fps, but I don't have my hopes up at all. I'm fully expecting 720p/60fps.

Originally Posted by Riky

I'm pretty sure FIFA 14 is 1080p & 60fps, I thought one of the NBA games was also?

Yeah, you're right. Forgot about those. Those games use a specific type of rendering which makes it easier to hit that goal. Also, rendering a simple soccer field or basketball court is much easier that a giant 3D world with explosions going off, etc.
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Originally Posted by Riky

I'm pretty sure FIFA 14 is 1080p & 60fps, I thought one of the NBA games was also?

NBA 2K14 is 1080p/60 AFAIK and its fucking beautiful
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(12-03-2013, 04:46 PM)
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Yes please

TitanFall and Destiny Beta
VanWinkle
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The most impressive next-gen title? Maybe most fun, but there's nothing particularly impressive about the game. Coming in March unchallenged by Sony? What about the fact that Sony are bringing a huge AAA first-party title that very month? What a dumb thing to say.
JustinMay
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(12-03-2013, 04:48 PM)

Originally Posted by VanWinkle

The most impressive next-gen title? Maybe most fun, but there's nothing particularly impressive about the game. Coming in March unchallenged by Sony? What about the fact that Sony are bringing a huge AAA first-party title that very month? What a dumb thing to say.

Infamous does not compare to the new game by the Modern Warfare guys. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by BruiserBear

360 version will probably run at 600p or maybe even worse. Respawn wasn't even willing to promise the 360 version would be 60fps in an interview months back. So we have no idea how that will turn out, but it's probably not going to be great.

The differences will not stop at resolution though, and you seem to be ignoring that fact. The lighting, textures, effects, will all be better on the XB1 version, so even if the resolutions end up being 600p vs 720p, (which I think they will), the XB1 version is still going to look significantly better.

Respawn actually farmed the 360 port out to another studio. We have yet to see either the X1 or 360 versions running.

Originally Posted by ViciousDS

NBA 2K14 is 1080p/60 AFAIK and its fucking beautiful

Its downright depressing that they decided to port the last-gen version over to the PC...My one question is, why?
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(12-03-2013, 04:49 PM)
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Beta publicly aviable, aviable right after announement at the VGX.



Who am I kidding, since EA is the publisher it will be only for preorders and 2 weeks away from launch

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