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Sir Alemeth
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(12-03-2013, 10:07 PM)
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Wii U won’t see another Christmas, “nobody gives a shit” about Mario, says ex-Sony dev
Wii U won’t see another Christmas and that’s just fine, according to former Little Deviants developer Kenny Linder. He also reckons Nintendo dropped the ball on Super Mario 3D World advertising, to the point that “nobody gives a s**t.”

It follows former THQ exec Jason Rubin calling Nintendo “irrelevant” in the console space.

Linder has since removed a big portion of his NeoGAF post, but Nintendo Life managed to copy-paste it before then.

It reads, “Releasing [SM3DW] the same day as PS4 in UK/EU wasn’t wise. The frustrating thing was this game was probably ready to go in October. I think retail and the market will push Nintendo in a direction whether they like it or not. They MUST be in danger of losing shelf space at this point.

“Retail will have four major consoles (PS3/4, 360/One) plus 3DS/2DS to push which will all move units, and it looks like Mario can’t help even poor Wii U out. If it goes from shelves, it will be finished. I am still confident in my crazy mind that Wii U will not see another Christmas after this one. But that’s just me. The future games will just get moved/axed.

Releasing Mario on Friday was a really stupid thing to do, it could of come out weeks before that. I wonder if the same gamers who buy Nintendo home systems (150k of them in UK) are the same gamers that buy PS4/Xbox? That might explain lack of sales this week. Otherwise, nobody gives a s***.

“Also, I haven’t seen a single Mario 3D World advert on UK TV, whereas the other two (PS4 more so, especially last night, holy s***) are on all the time. They have failed to see what the market wants.”

As Nintendo Life correctly states, there has been a fair few Super Mario 3D World adverts on the telly and online, so we’re quite puzzled by the last lines as well.

What do you make of Linder’s view? Let us know below.

Source: http://www.vg247.com/2013/12/03/wii-...ony-developer/

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The Beta Max
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(12-03-2013, 10:08 PM)
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WOWZERS
Syphon Filter
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dam shots being fired at nintendo from all cylinders.
RooMHM
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(12-03-2013, 10:08 PM)
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Always the dumb and full of themselves that talk and yell the most.
Hot Coldman
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(12-03-2013, 10:08 PM)
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former Little Deviants developer

sounds like an expert in things no-one gives a shit about
Last edited by Hot Coldman; 12-03-2013 at 10:28 PM.
Conor 419
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(12-03-2013, 10:08 PM)
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Title is misleading.
Nibel
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(12-03-2013, 10:08 PM)
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GAF > Internet > GAF
chicagocubsfan
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(12-03-2013, 10:09 PM)
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Well this guy is an idiot.
chubigans
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(12-03-2013, 10:09 PM)
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Some companies don't have a knack for this kind of stuff.
Grakl
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Living dat Nintendo lyfe
Kandrick
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(12-03-2013, 10:09 PM)
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Little Deviants developer Kenny Linder

Little Deviants.

lol
Threi
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Originally Posted by RooMHM

Always the dumb and full of themselves that talk and yell the most.

It does read like a forum post, I agree.
Randolph Freelander
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(12-03-2013, 10:09 PM)
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Are we going to have a NeoGAF thread about an article about a NeoGAF post? Did we not have a discussion following that post in the very thread it was in? I'm just wondering, don't know if I should expend any energy here.
Majine
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(12-03-2013, 10:09 PM)
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Not even Nintendo is that shortsighted.
Neuromancer
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(12-03-2013, 10:10 PM)
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Oops never mind hehe
Draconian
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(12-03-2013, 10:10 PM)
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Love comments like this that have no facts to back them up. There's nothing indicating 3D World was ready in October, but by all means, let's make stuff up because you have some kind of beef with Nintendo.
JoeTheBlow
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(12-03-2013, 10:10 PM)
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WtF is "Little deviants", and why is a neogaf post a news story?
Mesoian
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(12-03-2013, 10:10 PM)
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I get why he would say that, but no.

Any trouble Mario 3D world has selling will be squarely the fault of Nintendo's horrible marketing track record with the WiiU. But if we're looking long term, those games outsell EVERYTHING.

EVERYTHING.

People love Mario games, and the sales scope of the WiiU, damaged as it is, is not restricted to the UK.
FrostuTheNinja
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(12-03-2013, 10:10 PM)
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Little Deviants...

LITTLE DEVIANTS.
Zen_Arcade
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What a little deviant this guy is.
Madouu
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(12-03-2013, 10:10 PM)
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Stay classy.
Phoenician_Viking
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(12-03-2013, 10:10 PM)
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Get into the shelter, they are coming.
Trevelyon
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(12-03-2013, 10:11 PM)
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Defunct Little Deviants dev?

You gotta be fucking kidding me. Who'd put stock into anything this dude has to say. Shut the fuck up.
Empty
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(12-03-2013, 10:11 PM)
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taking a gaf post and putting an 'ex SONY dev slams NINTENDO' angle on it

i see vg247 has been learning from our rich tabloid tradition
bronson
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(12-03-2013, 10:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hot Coldman

sounds like an expert in things no-one gives a shit about

timlot
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(12-03-2013, 10:11 PM)
I disagree about nobody caring about Mario. Although the last game I owned was Mario 64, I do enjoy watching folks play Mario games on twitch. Heart warming.
border
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The idea that the WiiU won't "see another Christmas" is ridiculous. Even the Dreamcast made it through 3 Christmases.

That said, it does sound like the are going to have a problem with shelf space/retailers in the UK. And yes, the late launch of Mario 3D World was probably ill-advised.
Steverulez
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Doesn't WiiU have Smash Bros and Mario Kart next year? I think if neither of those see people buy the system then the WiiU will be dead, its on life support certainly.

Nintendo really dropped the ball with it.
TheBioLover
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(12-03-2013, 10:11 PM)
Why is a gaf post news?
Ambient80
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(12-03-2013, 10:11 PM)
Hey, let's all bash his former job instead of discussing what he said. It made the Rubin thread so much more pleasant.
OverBlood 3
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(12-03-2013, 10:11 PM)
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Little Deviants is crap, I own it.
-Cade
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Originally Posted by Hot Coldman

sounds like an expert in things no-one gives a shit about

I was gonna say.
Sinfamy
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I hate to say it, I loved Nintendo, and I still have a place for it in my heart, but this isn't far from the truth, GAF will say otherwise, but we live in a bubble.
PaulExcellent
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hot Coldman

sounds like an expert in things no-one gives a shit about

HAAAAAAAAAAAAH
so good
Sheroking
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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This nobody is thread worthy.... why?
Skilletor
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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I give a shit.

I don't think the console is long for this world, though. :/
JohnMadden
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)

Originally Posted by chubigans

Some companies don't have a knack for this kind of stuff.

Someone deliver the Knack dancing gif for this one?
braves01
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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I trust this man's experience when it comes to things nobody cares about.

I wouldn't be *that* surprised if Nintendo decides to save either MK8 or Smash or more likely Zelda for launch of a new console though.
richisawesome
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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Kenny Linder is a GAF member, isn't he?
Nags
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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Oh man Wii U is in bad shape but he's convinced they won't last another holiday season?
Come on man...
GregLombardi
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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Where were these statements from devs when Sony / Microsoft were being obliterated last gen?

Oh, that's right.
Kintaro
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hot Coldman

sounds like an expert in things no-one gives a shit about

And we are done!
Ridley327
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Originally Posted by Hot Coldman

sounds like an expert in things no-one gives a shit about

lokiooh.gif
Yawnier
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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Kenny Linder is actually on GAF lol
jeffers
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if we can have a whole new thread based on a rant on a nintendo thread... this forum is going to explode.
Sean*O
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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Lol, they care more about mario than anything that guy ever made.
McDougles
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(12-03-2013, 10:12 PM)
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Could have even added "relevant" in front of Christmas and he would have been right. Still, lots of rage and impotence for....why, exactly?
brandonh83
(12-03-2013, 10:13 PM)
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Nobody cares about Mario except people who enjoy great game design.
kazebyaka
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(12-03-2013, 10:13 PM)
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he isn't wrong
Rizsparky
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That's funny, I have no idea wtf Little Deviants is. Talk about calling the kettle black.

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