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mrdark
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(Yesterday, 12:11 AM)
I never realized how similar Nintendo products infrastructures are to Japan. It's like a little electronic analogy for the country.
Dicer
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(Yesterday, 12:12 AM)
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Cutting off the head to spite the body is sure to do wonders...really sounds like a wonderful idea.


Iwata is the figurehead but not the only person behind the curtain. There are plenty of things they could certainly change/"fix" and then there are things they really can't do much about...brand perception will never really change Nintendo is "family/fun/casual" and that isn't going to change ever.

It saddens me that the one thing that is "different" in gaming is so looked at with distain and people are chomping at the bit to wipe it off the face of the gaming landscape
Mpl90
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(Yesterday, 12:12 AM)
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This thread could become legitimately great with a well-informed Acquamarine post about the current BoD (especially age), who could be Iwata's substitute among them, their possible ideas, if there are external parties interested, Yamauchi's death influence, etc.etc. I.e. what's the current infos we have / can guess.

Yes, Acqua. I'm summoning you. I hope to see you here as soon as possible, I know you'd make a great post.

Still, my foolish and utopian dream for the post-Iwata future is Sakurai. Fuc*ing crazy, I know...don't worry :lol
Gusto
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(Yesterday, 12:12 AM)
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I think he should either step down or work out a deal with Sony to bring knack to the WiiU.

That knack attack!
kitsuneyo
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(Yesterday, 12:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by michaelx

Step aside, Iwata, there are new boys in town.

Who are they exactly?

I've seriously no idea who could take over.
Plinko
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(Yesterday, 12:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by UNCMark

He's fucked up the Wii U in every imaginable way possible. That's not how you remain the CEO of most companies. And when I said one thing, I meant between consoles and handhelds. He managed to salvage the 3DS because there's no direct competition other than another piece of hardware that was even more poorly conceived. In the console business where he has actual competition, he's fallen on his face repeatedly. The Wii, like it or not, was a fad. He failed with the GC and he's repeating that with the Wii U. How many chances do you give him?

I find it hilarious how you discount the 3DS because of competition from the Vita but completely ignore the massive market share that tablets/smartphone/iOS has taken over.

As for the Wii, it was he most successful "fad" in the gaming industry in years and built Nintendo a cash hoard that Pachter says would allow them to withstand at least two more failed consoles like Wii U. "Fad" or not, it was a MASSIVE success when it came to profits.
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TheBigG753
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(Yesterday, 12:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gartooth

Iwata isn't the only one responsible for the shitstorm the company is, it is their entire upper management in general.

This. If you're looking for a sweeping change in the way Nintendo does things, there needs to be a house-cleaning. Iwata falling on his sword, in and of itself, won't bring that about.
Kintaro
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(Yesterday, 12:13 AM)
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Careful what you wish for. Iwata could step down and the person who takes his place abandons consoles altogether and focuses their complete efforts on mobile, tablets and handheld devices. Low development costs and a userbase that consoles could never hope to achieve. After all, why should anyone have to buy any console hardware to play Nintendo IPs...when they already have the phones to do it? Right Jason Rubin? =)
w1gglyjones
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(Yesterday, 12:14 AM)

Originally Posted by michaelx

Step aside, Iwata, there are new boys in town.

yeah... who? who will take over nintendo and either a) play nice with existing nintendo veteran management and dev staff or b) who will such a person bring it to replace them?
POWERSPHERE
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(Yesterday, 12:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by soxxx

Iwata pushed Nintendo to unforeseen heights. He was the President when the Wii became a hit and the DS sold 150 million. The 3DS is looking great, the Wii U has struggled.

Overall he has done an amazing job, I dont think one hiccup warrants a change.

This is what people disregard. What I want to know is exactly what do you want from a CEO? This line of thought confuses me, all that will happen is Nintendo will go broader and jump on simpler games and micro transactions. It's like asking Nintendo to go third party, all it will result in is worse games as they'll have less investment in hardware success and be just looking to please shareholders which is the end, really.
michaelx
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(Yesterday, 12:14 AM)

Originally Posted by kitsuneyo

Who are they exactly?

I've seriously no idea who could take over.

Just joking, but I'm sure they would find a better suited person, just like Sony with Kaz Hirai. That man saved them!
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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(Yesterday, 12:14 AM)
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IF Iwata does step down, would it really turn the ship around? I mean, what would happen to Miyamoto and co.?

It spells doom to me if it happens.
timetokill
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(Yesterday, 12:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by michaelx

Just joking, but I'm sure they would find a better suited person, just like Sony with Kaz Hirai. That man saved them!

:lol good one
mrdark
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(Yesterday, 12:16 AM)

Originally Posted by michaelx

Just joking, but I'm sure they would find a better suited person, just like Sony with Kaz Hirai. That man saved them!

"Oh shit, everyone called out my dumb comment...uh...just joking, guys, lolz!"
UNCMark
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(Yesterday, 12:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Plinko

I find it hilarious how you discount the 3DS because of competition from the Vita but completely ignore the massive market share that tablets/smartphone/iOS has taken over.

Thanks for pointing out another area in which he's fucked up royally. He snagged the casuals with cheap games on the DS. What did he do on 3DS in the face of competition from tablets? He raised the prices on those "cheap" casual gamer titles to 30 dollars. Brilliance.
Shaanyboi
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(Yesterday, 12:17 AM)
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They need new blood in the company but that doesn't mean tossing out Iwata. As it stands, they're still making incredible software, and that's fine by me.
Cramoss
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(Yesterday, 12:17 AM)
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Yes.
JordanN
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(Yesterday, 12:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kintaro

Careful what you wish for. Iwata could step down and the person who takes his place abandons consoles altogether and focuses their complete efforts on mobile, tablets and handheld devices.

They would be burning a whole lot of companies in the process. AMD, IBM, and those factories that actually make the Wii U and 3DS.

What would also happen to the 30 million 3DS owners? "Lol, get lost"?
SethADrekin
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(Yesterday, 12:17 AM)
Yes, the CEO of the only Profitable Video Game Console Manufacturer should resign. That makes sense. I mean we kicked Yamauchi out right after that whole Virtual Boy fiasco right?
Leondexter
(Yesterday, 12:17 AM)
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I would prefer he go back in time and stop himself from taking the job at all.
w1gglyjones
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(Yesterday, 12:17 AM)

Originally Posted by michaelx

Just joking, but I'm sure they would find a better suited person, just like Sony with Kaz Hirai. That man saved them!

lol, did Kaz really? last I checked he hasn't just quite yet. or is that a joke - i.. ii... can't tell :(
michaelx
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(Yesterday, 12:18 AM)

Originally Posted by mrdark

"Oh shit, everyone called out my dumb comment...uh...just joking, guys, lolz!"

So, if you think I wasn't joking, then who I was refering to?

I used a catch-phrase which went with the topic title.

People these days.....
Plinko
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(Yesterday, 12:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by UNCMark

Thanks for pointing out another area in which he's fucked up royally. He snagged the casuals with cheap games on the DS. What did he do on 3DS in the face of competition from tablets? He raised the prices on those "cheap" casual gamer titles to 30 dollars. Brilliance.

And created a successful profit-making handheld in the process, in a market absolutely oversaturated with cheaper alternatives readily available on everyone's phone.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here.
Leondexter
(Yesterday, 12:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by SethADrekin

Yes, the CEO of the only Profitable Video Game Console Manufacturer should resign. That makes sense. I mean we kicked Yamauchi out right after that whole Virtual Boy fiasco right?

No, but the Virtual Boy's creator, Gunpei Yokoi, wasn't long for Nintendo after that.
Neff
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(Yesterday, 12:19 AM)
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No. He's doing a good job. He just needs to be a channeling a little more of Yamauchi's spirit, is all.

Originally Posted by Leondexter

No, but the Virtual Boy's creator, Gunpei Yokoi, wasn't long for Nintendo after that.

There are conflicting stories as to Yokoi's fortunes as a result of VB. Some say he was removed from R&D as punishment and given a courtesy desk job before 'forced retirement', (and then being murdered if you're particularly cynical). Others say he was supposed to have retired by that point anyway, despite no intention to ever release VB, and left for other reasons. Based on what I know about the company, I'd say the latter is more plausible. Nintendo isn't a mercenary company, particularly with its key staff. To fire someone as integral and successful as Yokoi over a stop-gap failure like the VB is terrible logic in any business or culture.
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Gonzo The Great
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(Yesterday, 12:19 AM)
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The Wii and DS were both designed under Yamauchi's reign. Iwata is responsible for the 3DS and Wii U, one of which has been a failure of colossal proportions. He probably needs to go, but I can't think of a worthy successor either.
Madao
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(Yesterday, 12:19 AM)
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Iwata should only step down if the next president is someone who changes the way Nintendo works and makes hardware that is powerful and cheap (let's be honest, Nintendo will never win with expensive stuff. they should at least get good deals like Sony and not the shit they got for Wii U)

if they are thinking about appointing some other japanese dude with a close-minded approach, i'd rather have Iwata stay and fix things.
SethADrekin
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(Yesterday, 12:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Leondexter

No, but the Virtual Boy's creator, Gunpei Yokoi, wasn't long for Nintendo after that.

Iwata didn't invent the Wii U..
timetokill
I call 'em "death hugs"
(Yesterday, 12:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by w1gglyjones

lol, did Kaz really? last I checked he hasn't just quite yet. or is that a joke - i.. ii... can't tell :(

He hasn't.

Of course, if people here were truly interested in the health of these companies, the threads would be largely calling for Hirai's firing and would've been for years.

But the truth is, people don't want Iwata fired for Nintendo's sake. They want him gone for the sake of, ultimately, console wars.
Nekofrog
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(Yesterday, 12:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Leondexter

No, but the Virtual Boy's creator, Gunpei Yokoi, wasn't long for Nintendo after that.

Or life, for that matter.

Something something, Nintendo ninjas.
Kintaro
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(Yesterday, 12:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by JordanN

They would be burning a whole lot of companies in the process. AMD, IBM, and those factories that actually make the Wii U and 3DS.

What would also happen to the 30 million 3DS owners? "Lol, get lost"?

Yeah. Same thing that happens when an old generation ends and a new begins.

Wii U is gone after 2014. That much I'm certain. 3DS will have two years after that. After that, everything could be up in the air. They could make a new handheld/console hybrid that destroys the market worldwide and they rule with an iron fist. They could partner with Apple exclusively...and do the same. Or they could do what I said too. Who knows. =P

Either way, take at look at what the new SquareEnix dude has been spitting out lately and see if you want Nintendo to do the same. Yeah...
michaelx
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(Yesterday, 12:21 AM)

Originally Posted by w1gglyjones

lol, did Kaz really? last I checked he hasn't just quite yet. or is that a joke - i.. ii... can't tell :(

Yes, he did. He made some important cuts and renewed Sony's vision and decided to push PS even futher.

Last time you checked was clearly long time ago and I doubt you ever heard anything about Sony or Kaz Hirai not related to PS4 so I'll just end it here. I have no intention to debate over it with ill-informed persons.

Same goes to everyone.

Sony would go bankrupt.
Zalman
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(Yesterday, 12:21 AM)
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If he does step down, hopefully we get someone who's more in touch with the fans. Someone who reads NeoGAF.
Interceptor
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(Yesterday, 12:21 AM)
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Shilltrap activated.
TheSpaceBetween
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(Yesterday, 12:21 AM)
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No, because then there might be no more Iwata Asks interviews.
cosmicblizzard
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(Yesterday, 12:22 AM)
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Decent chance whoever would take his place would be worse. Give him more time to turn the ship around before calling for his head.
Father_Brain
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(Yesterday, 12:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gartooth

Iwata isn't the only one responsible for the shitstorm the company is, it is their entire upper management in general.

Yup. Iwata being made the sacrificial lamb would only be slightly better than keeping everything as is.
UNCMark
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(Yesterday, 12:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Plinko

And created a successful profit-making handheld in the process, in a market absolutely oversaturated with cheaper alternatives readily available on everyone's phone.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

In what world do you exist that a CEO's job isn't to maximize profits? How much money is he leaving on the table with his idiotic decisions like pricing games such as Brain Age at 30 dollars? Witness the sales numbers of the DS BA titles and then check out the sales numbers for the 3DS game. That's on him.
Doffen
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(Yesterday, 12:25 AM)
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There is clearly something not working. If the shareholders thinks he can get the company on track again, then he should remain in his position, no need stubble with CEO's just for PR.

Iwata should go 3. Party
w1gglyjones
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(Yesterday, 12:26 AM)

Originally Posted by michaelx

Yes, he did. He made some important cuts and renewed Sony's vision and decided to push PS even futher.

Last time you checked was clearly long time ago and I doubt you ever heard anything about Sony or Kaz Hirai not related to PS4 so I'll just end it here. I have no intention to debate over it with ill-informed persons.

Same goes to everyone.

Sony would go bankrupt.

pretty sure the financial analysts would agree with me more than you. financial services division is carrying sony electronics on its shoulders. please...
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UNCMark
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(Yesterday, 12:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by michaelx

Just joking, but I'm sure they would find a better suited person, just like Sony with Kaz Hirai. That man saved them!

This has to be a joke. Or you've willfully ignored Sony's financial statements.
gogogow
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(Yesterday, 12:26 AM)
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Iwata needs to step down blah blah. This has been said a million times. So okay, so you get your say and Iwata steps down. Then what? Who will replace him? Would he be better? Instead of constantly focusing on Iwata, you guys that make these kind of threads should come up who at Nintendo would be his successor.
Freezie KO
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(Yesterday, 12:27 AM)
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He's shown an incredible lack of foresight and understanding of the market. It's possible the next guy could be worse, but Nintendo needs a big shake-up.
timetokill
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(Yesterday, 12:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by UNCMark

This has to be a joke. Or you've willfully ignored Sony's financial statements.

But man the PS4 is so awesome and it has all my favorite SONY games and franchises!
Garou
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(Yesterday, 12:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by botty

Without a doubt. Nintendo needs more western influence at their HQs... and I am not talking about the robot formally known as Reggie Fils-Aime. Today's gamer just isn't here for yesterday's console strategies and games.

Exactly, we need more DLC & micro transaction-based and heavily rushed games to drive up those margins!
Moosehole
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(Yesterday, 12:28 AM)
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This should have happened a year ago. Nothing will change at Nintendo until Iwata is gone. Downward trend will continue.
lamaroo
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(Yesterday, 12:28 AM)
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more core player-minded prez

:lol One of the more ridiculous things I've read
Nerazar
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(Yesterday, 12:28 AM)
No. There is no reason for him to step down. Japan is Nintendo Country and the 3DS is running just fine. Even in the west.

They just might reach their sales goals in terms of revenue.

The WiiU has lots of problems but each and every one of those problems is at least solvable. As long as Nintendo provides quality software, the whole WiiU-project can be considered a success.
michaelx
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(Yesterday, 12:28 AM)

Originally Posted by w1gglyjones

pretty sure the financial analysts would agree with me more than you. financial services is carrying sony electronics on its shoulders. please...

what are you reffering to?
DeaviL
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(Yesterday, 12:28 AM)
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Never knew firing people could be such a boon to a company.
Just imagine, he steps down today and BAM 10 billion Wii U sales.
He's also clearly the only one who makes decisions over at Nintendo.

Well, time to fire some upper management for profit, haha!

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