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smr00
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FF8 is the best FF game.

Squall is bawse, card game is fun and the story is great.
sixteen-bit
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little known fact:



the selfie was named after selphie

#truthfact
Burning Vigor Attack
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(Yesterday, 05:43 PM)
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It's a shame the battle system is so broken. I'd love a remake but knowing SE they would ruin it.
Grief.exe
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(Yesterday, 06:11 PM)
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UPDATE

New Depot was created this morning that includes both FFVII and FFVIII, possibly a Final Fantasy package for the upcoming Steam sale.

RedSoxFan9
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I hope there's a mod that allows you to skip the long cut scenes for the better attacks.
iavi
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Originally Posted by smr00

FF8 is the best FF game.

Squall is bawse, card game is fun and the story is great.

The gunblade is boss, Squalls jacket is boss, but Squall ain't no boss. Just kinda guilty by association.

Anyway, this is bought. Day one.
Grief.exe
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(Yesterday, 06:31 PM)
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Everyone seems to love FFVIII.

Its crazy how polarizing the three PS1 entries in the main Final Fantasy series were.
Cheddahz
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Originally Posted by Grief.exe

Everyone seems to love FFVIII.

Its crazy how polarizing the three PS1 entries in the main Final Fantasy series were.

Well, the PS1 FF games were the ones that really made JRPG games huge and they changed the way people viewed JRPGs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kWjJwbDF4g

Stuck it your head now.
Fabrikator
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(Yesterday, 06:36 PM)
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Squall = Best FF main protagonist EVER.
Squall ASF
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(Yesterday, 06:38 PM)
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Awesome news! GOAT finally comes to steam which is a godsend since I'm not sure that we'll be able to play PS1 games on PS4. I want to say Gekai is only going to be for PS3 games when it hits, right?
Grief.exe
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Originally Posted by Squall ASF

Awesome news! GOAT finally comes to steam which is a godsend since I'm not sure that we'll be able to play PS1 games on PS4. I want to say Gekai is only going to be for PS3 games when it hits, right?

I would imagine Sony will port their PS1 emulator and allow people to play their games that way.
diablos991
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Day 1 buy for me. I would love to experience this one again.
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(Yesterday, 06:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Grief.exe

Everyone seems to love FFVIII.

Its crazy how polarizing the three PS1 entries in the main Final Fantasy series were.

I abhor Final Fantasy VIII. The Junction/Draw/GF/Leveling systems are completely fucking broken.

I did kind of enjoy some parts of the story, but the gameplay is easily the worst of the 3 PS1 games. EASILY, like VII and IX actually have good gameplay, VIII is mind-numbing.

Spoony knows what's up
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BasilZero
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Originally Posted by Grief.exe

The version on the Square store required an always online connection, digital river imposed download limit, and Securom DRM (correct me if I am wrong here).

The Steam version, which was released later on, only required a Square Enix account on first install. No Securom, online-check in, always-online, etc, etc to be found.

Thanks for the info!

Glad my purchase of FFVII was worth it lol. Hate secuROM with a passion.

Cant wait for FFVIII to be released. I wonder what other FF games will come out on Steam aside from FFXI and FFXIV.
Squall ASF
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Originally Posted by Grief.exe

I would imagine Sony will port their PS1 emulator and allow people to play their games that way.

That's what I figured or rather, hoped but now we're covered either way :)

Originally Posted by antitrop

I abhor Final Fantasy VIII. The Junction/Draw/GF/Leveling systems are completely fucking broken.

I did kind of enjoy some parts of the story, but the gameplay is easily the worst of the 3 PS1 games. EASILY, like VII and IX actually have good gameplay, VIII is mind-numbing.

I never understand why people complain about the system being broken. You can play this game however you like, you don't have to abuse anything if you choose. You don't even have to use GFs if you don't want to.
10k
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Just bought FFVII on the steam sale. I got $9 left in my steam wallet, looks like it's going towards this.
Lyonaz
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So what are the chances it comes out in 10 min?

I love this game and want it now.
Grief.exe
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(Yesterday, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by BasilZero

Thanks for the info!

Glad my purchase of FFVII was worth it lol. Hate secuROM with a passion.

Cant wait for FFVIII to be released. I wonder what other FF games will come out on Steam aside from FFXI and FFXIV.

VII and VIII are the only other ones with PC ports, so we may not see any others released.

We don't even have XIV available on Steam.

Originally Posted by Lyonaz

So what are the chances it comes out in 10 min?

I love this game and want it now.

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(Yesterday, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Squall ASF

I never understand why people complain about the system being broken. You can play this game however you like, you don't have to abuse anything if you choose. You don't even have to use GFs if you don't want to.

8 is a tedious chore to play through, unless you purposefully break the systems, and then it's just boring.

Having the enemies level up with your characters was the worst idea ever.
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Originally Posted by Berordn

The original PC version came with support for it as a separate application that worked about the same. It'd probably be more work to rip it out, so they'll probably include it. Here's some dirty footage from Youtube.

I would actually double dip on FFVIII if the PC version included Chocobo World.
Omega Rex
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Grief, i love you

whats up with Halo 3? you lied about it!
Grief.exe
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(Yesterday, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Omega Rex

Grief, i love you

except for Halo 3. you lied about it!

Never lied about it! Can't kill the messenger for reporting on the registry entries, AMD drivers, etc.

Halo PC news has been pushed until 2014. Until then, Believe.exe.
Shiina
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(Yesterday, 06:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

I abhor Final Fantasy VIII. The Junction/Draw/GF/Leveling systems are completely fucking broken.

I did kind of enjoy some parts of the story, but the gameplay is easily the worst of the 3 PS1 games. EASILY, like VII and IX actually have good gameplay, VIII is mind-numbing.

Spoony knows what's up

Spoony didn't understand the draw and ability system, as most people who played the game didn't. Draw is only needed to get the few missable boss G.Fs and for your entire magic arsenal you had your refine abilities. A definite flaw of the system is that it discourages using magic which results in an Attack command spam but let's be honest, FF games are not exactly the pinnacle of JRPG gameplay anyway.

Weren't they going to make a brushed up version of FF VIII? I somehow doubt this is it but why would they release a steam port of the original before releasing a pseudo-HD version?
Think Different
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Originally Posted by Grief.exe

I have heard good things about IX as well, but that one doesn't already have a PC version available so would take some extra work on Square's part.

XV and Kingdom Hearts would not go amiss on PC.

Final Fantasy IX is just a wonder. If that ever gets a release on Steam (seeing that it never got a PC port), that could mean good things for PC gaming and Square Enix RPGs. It'd just have to do very well.
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Originally Posted by Shiina

Spoony didn't understand the draw and ability system, as most people who played the game didn't. Draw is only needed to get the few missable boss G.Fs and for your entire magic arsenal you had your refine abilities. A definite flaw of the system is that it discourages using magic which results in an Attack command spam but let's be honest, FF games are not exactly the pinnacle of JRPG gameplay anyway.

I still think Final Fantasy VII's Materia system, Final Fantasy V's Job system, Final Fantasy VI's Esper system, and Final Fantasy X-2's Dress Sphere system were all great mechanics, infinitely superior to Junctioning/Drawing, anyway.

My favorite JRPG battle system will always be Grandia II, though.
Grief.exe
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(Yesterday, 07:04 PM)
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UPDATE

These were uploaded to the Steam registry a few days ago



Cheddahz
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Wish I wasn't broke, so I could just buy it when it goes up soon
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Knurek
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Originally Posted by antitrop

I abhor Final Fantasy VIII. The Junction/Draw/GF/Leveling systems are completely fucking broken.

That's the point. It's such a glorious trainwreck.
Also, which Final Fantasy fight system isn't completely fucking broken?
Apexhell
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so good i need it now!
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(Yesterday, 07:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by ambientmystic

This right here. Triple Triad > Tetra Master

Makes me wonder, is there anyone out there who actually prefers Tetra Master to Triple Triad? Tetra Master fucking sucked. Wish they'd release a new version of FF9 with Triple Triad in it instead.
Think Different
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Steam also needs a full Triple Triad game lol

Originally Posted by Knurek

That's the point. It's such a glorious trainwreck.
Also, which Final Fantasy fight system isn't completely fucking broken?

I will say that VIII is the most broken. You always need no more than 1000 EXP to level up. A certain monster gives you more than 500 EXP, so you fight it twice and you always level up. Easiest way to max everyone to level 100.

Junction really makes you overpowered. I wish Final Fantasy games had a difficulty option, because this one needs a "Very Hard" mode.

Does this one have good mods like FFVII?
Nymphae
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Awesome, will buy & replay since it's my favourite FF.

Originally Posted by antitrop

I abhor Final Fantasy VIII. The Junction/Draw/GF/Leveling systems are completely fucking broken.

The only thing that sucked was being forced to draw spells and having no way to fast track that process. The junctioning being broken was just straight up fun in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by antitrop

I abhor Final Fantasy VIII. The Junction/Draw/GF/Leveling systems are completely fucking broken.

Most of my enjoyment from FFVIII is derived from abusing carding, lvl-up/down skills, and such with the magic/junction system to break the game.
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Originally Posted by antitrop

I still think Final Fantasy VII's Materia system, Final Fantasy V's Job system, Final Fantasy VI's Esper system, and Final Fantasy X-2's Dress Sphere system were all great mechanics, infinitely superior to Junctioning/Drawing, anyway.

My favorite JRPG battle system will always be Grandia II, though.

I agree with Grandia II if talking about turn based JRPGs, although Nocturne and the two DDS games are very good as well. For Japanese RPGs in a broader sense I'd have to go with the Ys games.


Originally Posted by Grief.exe

UPDATE

These were uploaded to the Steam registry a few days ago

It's been a while but those look like the old PC version of the game, not noticing any graphical improvements. Maybe they canned their HD project.


Originally Posted by Seda

Most of my enjoyment from FFVIII is derived from abusing carding, lvl-up/down skills, and such with the magic/junction to break the game.

I always enjoyed junctioning Death to status attack and oneshotting everything that wasn't a boss or immune to death. You could do that as soon as Galbadia Garden as well, unless you went through hoops to get enough Death spells.
IchigoSharingan
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Never played this. Only 6 and 13...time to go retro.
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Originally Posted by IchigoSharingan

Never played this. Only 6 and 13...time to go retro.

If you don't like VIII, move on to IX.

9 is the apology for 8.
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pixlexic
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Will get it just to support square enix on PC.

Probably my most hated ff of all time though.
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Originally Posted by antitrop

8 is a tedious chore to play through, unless you purposefully break the systems, and then it's just boring.

Having the enemies level up with your characters was the worst idea ever.

I feel having options on how to play through the game is the exact opposite of boring, but to each their own. I can understand thinking GF spamming is boring and not having the patience to draw magic for stat junctioning, it's not for everyone but I felt it added interest to each battle where I wondered what each enemy had to draw from as opposed to just mashing x from the get go. I think Limit Breaks were really well implemented as well.
Knurek
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Originally Posted by Think Different

Junction really makes you overpowered. I wish Final Fantasy games had a difficulty option, because this one needs a "Very Hard" mode.

There is one in FF8, it's called Enc-None ability.
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Originally Posted by antitrop

8 is a tedious chore to play through, unless you purposefully break the systems, and then it's just boring.

Having the enemies level up with your characters was the worst idea ever.


I leveled up my characters to level 99 before leaving the first disk. Very easy to do considering you only needed 1000 experience points a level.

I never found the game difficult at all because of it. Monsters/Bosses/enemies never overwhelmed me. Perhaps I overwhelmed the enemy's if anything.

I think that aspect of the game was overblown.
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Alvarez
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(Yesterday, 07:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Knurek

There is one in FF8, it's called Enc-None ability.

What are you talking about? That's a way to make the game EASIER, because the lower enemies are in the game, the more likely you are to have an advantage. The best ways to improve your characters don't involve combat, so avoiding combat isn't an issue.

The game has so much replay value. You can play in any of these ways:

- Use your Guardian Forces to do damage (most newbie players spend the whole game doing this)

- Progress via the card game

- Progress via buying and refining items

- Progress via farming crafting items for weapons

- Progress via limit break abuse

- Progress via stat leveling abuse (+1 Strength every time you level, etc.)

- Use the Seifer trick to get super high level magic early on

- Use Enc-None for to do a "story playthrough" where the focus is on story and you only participate in main battles

Ahhh, back when Final Fantasy let you play how you wanted to.
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Running away from every enemy encounter you can makes the final boss easier than levelling up, because the stats are low, but you have all the powerful magic that you've drawn.
Shiina
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(Yesterday, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alvarez

What are you talking about? That's a way to make the game EASIER, because the lower enemies are in the game, the more likely you are to have an advantage. The best ways to improve your characters don't involve combat, so avoiding combat isn't an issue.

The game has so much replay value. You can play in any of these ways:

- Use your Guardian Forces to do damage (most newbie players spend the whole game doing this)

- Progress via the card game

- Progress via buying and refining items

- Progress via farming crafting items for weapons

- Progress via limit break abuse

- Progress via stat leveling abuse (+1 Strength every time you level, etc.)

- Use the Seifer trick to get super high level magic early on

- Use Enc-None for to do a "story playthrough" where the focus is on story and you only participate in main battles

Ahhh, back when Final Fantasy let you play how you wanted to.

Haven't heard of that one yet, what is it about?
Knurek
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Originally Posted by Alvarez

What are you talking about? That's a way to make the game EASIER, because the lower enemies are in the game, the more likely you are to have an advantage. The best ways to improve your characters don't involve combat, so avoiding combat isn't an issue.

I would guess the end game boss fights (Omega, anyone?) would be quite difficult with characters on level 7
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Originally Posted by Knurek

I would guess the end game boss fights (Omega, anyone?) would be quite difficult with characters on level 7

Nope, it's the other way around, the final encounters are easier at the lowest level possible than the highest.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197343-fi...ers?qid=150470
Alvarez
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(Yesterday, 07:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Shiina

Haven't heard of that one yet, what is it about?

In the Dollet mission, have Seifer kill off Squall and Zell. Then, level Seifer to level 100. Proceed to draw all of the overpowered magic from the enemies. Give the magic to Zell and Squall and proceed with the game. Seifer will be removed from your party, and so the enemies will be scaled back down to level 1, but you will retain all of the max level magic. And your GFs will be maxed out too!
AuthenticM
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Release it on GOG and I will buy it, Square.
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I remembered back then when I'm still playing my imported PS1 that turned out to be black & white on my Sony CRT, then on Disk 3 Ragnarok, I can't get passed those Propagator since they keep respawning.

Then I saw my neighbor playing it in full color and saw that those aliens are color coded.

No wonder they keep respawning. I almost finished the game in B&W!

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