Yep got to agree there. Though I might enjoy Triple Triad more than the main game itself.Most of my enjoyment from FFVIII is derived from abusing carding, lvl-up/down skills, and such with the magic/junction system to break the game.
I wish they would release Triple Triad for iOS.
OT, but looks like Square has plans to bring FFXIV to Steam eventually
Source: http://steamdb.info/app/262340/#section_subs
Source: http://steamdb.info/app/262340/#section_subs
cant wait anymore
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Agreed. I know it's broken, but I kinda enjoyed breaking the game. The only problem is it's kinda hard to re-play that game without breaking it.Most of my enjoyment from FFVIII is derived from abusing carding, lvl-up/down skills, and such with the magic/junction system to break the game.
That's what I loved best about it. Tinkering with your magic and putting it to stats to see how OP you could get was awesome.I abhor Final Fantasy VIII. The Junction/Draw/GF/Leveling systems are completely fucking broken.
Funnily enough, the usual negative opinions I hear about this game is it was too hard.
TT doesn't really work in isolation, the way rules are spread and the way high-value cards are introduced to the pool requires some sort of larger meta-game.Originally Posted by Squall ASF
I wish they would release Triple Triad for iOS.
Not saying it isn't possible, just that its not as simple as just creating a stand-alone card game.
PS. Th battle-system in FFVIII isn't in way broken, its just highly exploitable BY DESIGN. Frankly the things people usually talk about as exploits all pale into insignificance next to how ludicrously overpowered the blue magic Degenerator is. Guaranteed 1 shot kill on everything in the game apart from Tonberries and bosses, and you can get it real early.
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I dunno, I remember playing it at some website (tripletriadonline.com or something?) and I had a ton of fun. They released decks of all other FF's and some other SE games.TT doesn't really work in isolation, the way rules are spread and the way high-value cards are introduced to the pool requires some sort of larger meta-game.
Not saying it isn't possible, just that its not as simple as just creating a stand-alone card game.
I think it could work, make it online, then several players are like the Queen introducing new rules per region.TT doesn't really work in isolation, the way rules are spread and the way high-value cards are introduced to the pool requires some sort of larger meta-game.
Not saying it isn't possible, just that its not as simple as just creating a stand-alone card game.
Game would be huge.
But it won't happen because Square Enix.
I don't think it's hard at all, just tedious. Tedious is just about the worst negative association you can possibly levy at a game.That's what I loved best about it. Tinkering with your magic and putting it to stats to see how OP you could get was awesome.
Funnily enough, the usual negative opinions I hear about this game is it was too hard.
Well from the vast amounts of FF8 threads in this board's past, one of the biggest complaints is people think it was too hard because they don't even understand how junctioning works.I don't think it's hard at all, just tedious. Tedious is just about the worst negative association you can possibly levy at a game.
There was a lot I didn't get about FFVIII. Like, you can summon all you want, so are you just supposed to keep summoning? It seems like it doesn't really have any reason not to other than having to endure 30 second cut scenes every time.Well from the vast amounts of FF8 threads in this board's past, one of the biggest complaints is people think it was too hard because they don't even understand how junctioning works.
I don't know, I've never been in the FFVIII camp.
GameFAQs was around even back when the game launched in '99, don't understand that complaint. I think it's all pretty easy to grasp, just not really any fun to play.Well from the vast amounts of FF8 threads in this board's past, one of the biggest complaints is people think it was too hard because they don't even understand how junctioning works.
And there was the other complaint. People not understanding the junction system and would just rely on summoning.There was a lot I didn't get about FFVIII. Like, you can summon all you want, so are you just supposed to keep summoning? It seems like it doesn't really have any reason not to other than having to endure 30 second cut scenes every time.
And no, you're not suppose to use summons unless you want to torture yourself. Pretty much you're suppose to use summons as fancy equipment, really all there is to it.
How much? $59.99?
It generally boiled down to people skipping the tutorials. "Yeah yeah blah blah blah, I know how to play FF thanks."GameFAQs was around even back when the game launched in '99, don't understand that complaint.
You can trudge your way through most of the game by using GFs against bosses, and then people would hit a brick wall when they got to Adel, or the final dungeon, they'd come crying to the message boards, and that's when they'd finally find out how junctioning worked.
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Yup.And there was the other complaint. People not understanding the junction system and would just rely on summoning.
And no, you're not suppose to use summons unless you want to torture yourself. Pretty much you're suppose to use summons as fancy equipment, really all there is to it.
Summoning is basically just for fun, the best part of the entire battle-system design however is that that matters little because of the way just junctioning a GF has a very real effect on combat performance and abilities. Brilliant approach imho.
Most of the complaints tend to be easily mended, like drawing or long battles.
Drawing spells is a huge mistake. The best way to get spells is refining.The only thing that sucked was being forced to draw spells and having no way to fast track that process. The junctioning being broken was just straight up fun in my opinion.
Funny story about FF8. I was in high school when it came out. I bought it and did something and got in trouble. My mom told me to give her the game as punishment. Little did she know that the game is multiple discs. I played disc 1 for like 30 hours.
It's only about 10 hours long, so that's still a pretty good punishment. I would have been dying to get to disc 2. Shoulda just given her disc 4!Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo
Funny story about FF8. I was in high school when it came out. I bought it and did something and got in trouble. My mom told me to give her the game as punishment. Little did she know that the game is multiple discs. I played disc 1 for like 30 hours.
;( y u make me a sad pandaOriginally Posted by Grief.exe
VII and VIII are the only other ones with PC ports, so we may not see any others released.
We don't even have XIV available on Steam.
XIV may still come out, dont they have XI already? lol
Anyways man, if they do ever release any FF games on Steam (other than VII and VIII) - I hope they release IX.
FFVIII registry app had achievements at one point, but I forgot to actually physically copy/paste them onto GAF.
They were lost after Square purged the FFVIII entry after we leaked FFVII.
They were lost after Square purged the FFVIII entry after we leaked FFVII.
XI is already on Steam, I hope they release IX as well, seems like it would be my favorite PS1 FF game.Originally Posted by BasilZero
;( y u make me a sad panda
XIV may still come out, dont they have XI already? lol
Anyways man, if they do ever release any FF games on Steam (other than VII and VIII) - I hope they release IX.
The OST for VII was supposedly butchered in the PC release, is it the same for VIII?
I recall it had something to do with the audio chip in the PS1 being hard to replicate by software.
I recall it had something to do with the audio chip in the PS1 being hard to replicate by software.
I just moved abroad for grad school and had to leave my consoles behind. Never been much of a PC gamer so quick question: will a regular DualShock 3/4 work on Steam games like Final Fantasy?
FF8 PC still uses MIDI, if that what you're asking.The OST for VII was supposedly butchered in the PC release, is it the same for VIII?
I recall it had something to do with the audio chip in the PS1 being hard to replicate by software.
Instead of using Yamaha XG soft synthesizer, like FF7 PC did, it uses DirectMusic, which at least allowed for custom sound fonts, so it doesn't sound half bad.
Still, it wasn't 100% like the PS1 game.
Use an Xinput wrapperI just moved abroad for grad school and had to leave my consoles behind. Never been much of a PC gamer so quick question: will a regular DualShock 3/4 work on Steam games like Final Fantasy?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=102
oh man. I was just discussing this with a friend yesterday who had interest in ff14, told him I probably would have day 1'd it had it been on steam. If this actually does happen it would be pretty awesome.Originally Posted by Grief.exe
OT, but looks like Square has plans to bring FFXIV to Steam eventually
Source: http://steamdb.info/app/262340/#section_subs
At this point, unlikely (even though IX's the best game in the series and all). The PC release of VII was essentially just a dusted-off and slightly polished up version of the original PC port of the game. FFVIII will likely be the same thing. Those are the only two games in the series (outside of XI and XIV, of course) to ever get PC ports. If other games get a PC release, they'd have to be ported in order to do so - possible, but a much bigger undertaking.Originally Posted by BasilZero
;( y u make me a sad panda
XIV may still come out, dont they have XI already? lol
Anyways man, if they do ever release any FF games on Steam (other than VII and VIII) - I hope they release IX.
The thing with the Junction system, I think, is that it's just it's own special kind of broken. Technically, you can break most FF games difficulty-wise. That usually just involves grinding levels (not always necessarily for the levels themselves, but also just to advance materia/jobs/equipment/whatever). In FF8, it's just draw-grinding and stuff instead.
As others have mentioned, grinding levels in FF8 is actually a bad thing, because enemies advance at the same rate as you and will just become tougher. The only way to get an edge level-wise is to keep your level as low as possible until you get Jumbo Cactuar in Disc 3 (and also learn the level-up bonus - i.e STR Bonus, HP Bonus - that each of the other GFs get one of). Junctioning those abilities, I believe, give you gains in those stats that outpace the enemy scaling.
Worst FF ever created. Amazing music though. I might pick it up to give it a painful playthrough sometime.
Can't wait.
PC version of FF7 is fine on Steam. You make an account and log in once then its basically fixed, and they patched the original music in. So I'm excited for this. I'm hoping the steam version of FF7 did better than Square's download version so they're more likely to release this on Steam at launch, rather than making it Square exclusive for a year or so.
About time!
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It usually takes around one sale with decent price cut to convince the developers a Steam release is worth their while.I'm hoping the steam version of FF7 did better than Square's download version so they're more likely to release this on Steam at launch, rather than making it Square exclusive for a year or so.
FF7 was a daily on the recent Steam sale, now we're having all this FF8 movement... Yeah, it sold tonnes.
If they put IX on PC i'll bite but i won't settle for inferior games.
If I remember correctly, FFVII was the top seller for a while when it was released.It usually takes around one sale with decent price cut to convince the developers a Steam release is worth their while.
FF7 was a daily on the recent Steam sale, now we're having all this FF8 movement... Yeah, it sold tonnes.
Please bring an English translated FFXII International Zodiac Job Edition to Steam plz thanks SE :3
This might go a little ways towards making up for Final Fantasy XIII. I really liked XII.Originally Posted by DaBuddaDa
Please bring an English translated FFXII International Zodiac Job Edition to Steam plz thanks SE :3
Maybe Demon's Souls, yeah, but not every RPG ever. FAQs are useful for many things, they don't automatically ruin the experience.Originally Posted by Sheroking
Yeah.... yes?
Those games are meant to be discovered and unlocked. It's like reading a shooting script before seeing a movie.
I don't remember if it was #1 or not, but FFVII was definitely in the top sellers for awhile after its Steam release. And then again the first time it was on sale a couple weeks/months ago.Originally Posted by Grief.exe
If I remember correctly, FFVII was the top seller for a while when it was released.
Already own FFXIV on PC, not sure if rebuying the steam version would be a benefit in any way. Now if they add steam achievements or other steamworks features I may think twice.
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