As much as I love the Vita, I feel we are mainly going to see low budget or hunting games only from Sony.
I'm hoping for original Jrpgs or Strat games with higher budgets like Jeanne D Arc, but it doesn't seem likely anymore.
Miku slaying everyone?...expected
Also it seems like Vinnk was probably right. NSMBU might actually do better than 3D World this holiday and people might pick that up instead which is not surprising, but still sad.
I don't what stopping them from co-developing Valkyria Chonicles with Sega for Vita. Sony should have the resources to do it, brought the series to a brighter spotlight.Originally Posted by bigmit3737
As much as I love the Vita, I feel we are mainly going to see low budget or hunting games only from Sony.
I'm hoping for original Jrpgs or Strat games with higher budgets like Jeanne D Arc, but it doesn't seem likely anymore.
Most of the NSMBU sales come from the bundle and standalone version sells worse than Wii Party U it seems, as there is a gap of 5000 between them and the main bundle includes both of them. It's a safe bet that a part of those buyers will buy also Mario 3d World at some point in time. So it doesn't really matter, it will be actually better for Wii U's future if NSMBU sales from bundle will be better than SM3DW.Originally Posted by metalslimer
Also it seems like Vinnk was probably right. NSMBU might actually do better than 3D World this holiday and people might pick that up instead which is not surprising, but still sad.
Last edited by KingSnake; Yesterday at 04:29 PM.
Ah I forgot those were mainly bundled sales. I actually think that bundle will hurt 3DW in the short term considering these people are already getting a 4 player Mario to play this holidayOriginally Posted by KingSnake
Most of the NSMBU sales come from the bundle and standalone version sells worse than Wii Party U it seems, as there is a gap of 5000 between them and the main bundle includes both of them. It's a safe bet that a part of those buyers will buy also Mario 3d World at some point in time. So it doesn't really matter, it will be actually better for Wii U's future if NSMBU sales from bundle will be better than SM3DW.
As much as i love VC it would be waste of resources.I don't what stopping them from co-developing Valkyria Chonicles with Sega for Vita. Sony should have the resources to do it, brought the series to a brighter spotlight.
Sony needs to invest in big things with broad appeal.
Final Fantasy Type-0, MGS spinoff, Gran Turismo, God of War spinoff, port of GTA from PS2/iOS etc.
Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
(Yesterday, 04:34 PM)
I don't think many people is taking into account the digital sales for this title.Originally Posted by metalslimer
I'm not surprised that Wii U numbers went up. I'll admit I didn't expect it to happen until next week and it's a good sign that the holiday might actually be decent although that 3D World drop isn't great heading to the holidays. I was hoping for 50k and then a rise. I still think a 200k holiday is possible although that's still bad it's better than what a lot expected.
+Digital sales on Wii USecond week sales, 3D Mario Platformers:
[N64] Super Mario 64 (Nintendo) {1996.06.23} - 121.921 / 284.032 (-25%)
[WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) {2010.05.27} - 116.153 / 453.722 (-66%)
[GCN] Super Mario Sunshine (Nintendo) {2002.07.19} - 102.576 / 383.186 (-63%)
[3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} - 87.886 / 432.584 (-75%)
[WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) {2007.11.01} - 78.349 / 334.690 (-69%)
[NDS] Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) {2004.12.02} - 52.591 / 172.653 (-56%)
[WIU] Super Mario 3D World (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} - 39.306 / 146.273 (-63%)
And based on what we've seen they are likely near irrelevant. Maybe another 10k. In the west, this might be a point of contention, but digital sales unless we hear otherwise are not really worth stressing about at least until we get the new download charts.Originally Posted by Amin_and_Azizah
I don't think many people is taking into account the digital sales for this title.
It will be nice when digital sales are reported in some manner, so the mythical specter of digital changing everything about a game's commercial performance can be ghostbusted.
Is there any bundle or anything planned for 3DS for later this month?
how many systems in Japan have even had 5 million+ years?
I swear I saw a chart in an earlier thread where only 3DS/DS did that
I swear I saw a chart in an earlier thread where only 3DS/DS did that
15./00. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (Ľ5.480) - 17.518 / NEW <0-20%>
With a bit of calculation total shipment for Taiko Wii U is between 88k and 126k, with the coming holiday + Taiko legs retailers should be able to sell most shipment without trouble imo.26./15. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (Ľ5.480) - 7.747 / 25.265 <20-40%> (-56%)
It is 160k behind but has sold near enough 100k every week for how ever long. it'll beat it for sure.Originally Posted by watershed
I'm curious if the 3ds can match or beat last year's YTD total thru the rest of the year. Right now its 160k behind which seems like too big a gap to fill. Does it have any major releases in Japan left for an extra holiday boost?
The fact that the 3DS is going to have a close YoY battle with the 3DS from last year just shows how important it is for consistency. The first half year of the 3DS really hurt its chances. And there is the possibility it might be even worse 1H 2014, but it was probably smart to save the 2DS for Japan.
2nd PS4 without having to buy a 2nd PS4?I have no idea why anyone in any country would want a Vita TV.
Only the DS and 3DS have had 5m years. Not GBA, not PS2, not Wii. 5m is huge.Originally Posted by theprodigy
how many systems in Japan have even had 5 million+ years?
I swear I saw a chart in an earlier thread where only 3DS/DS did that
Again, this ignores that last year the 3DS also sold past this week :P The comparison is week aligned. Unless P&D Z pushes ridiculous amounts of 3DSes (doubtful), it'll definitely fall behind 2012.It is 160k behind but has sold near enough 100k every week for how ever long. it'll beat it for sure.
Last edited by Magicpaint; Yesterday at 04:49 PM.
So the MH4 number Capcom released earlier from this thread is shipped to retails number, not sold to customer after all. How many of those 4 millions still sit on the shelf?
His head smashed in and his heart cut out and his liver removed and his bowels unplugged and his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off and his penis...
(Yesterday, 04:49 PM)
True but with every other system being dead, failing, heading towards death the 3DS is the one place to look for health right now. The 3DS is doing great, no one can doubt that. I guess at least in my opinion, I want it do amazing to stop the decline Japan seems to be heading towards.Originally Posted by Magicpaint
Only the DS and 3DS have had 5m years. Not GBA, not PS2, not Wii. 5m is huge.
[3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP (Bandai Namco) {2011.05.26} - 16.753 / 97.241 (-79%)
[3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (Ľ5.980) - 24.623 / 108.228 (-71%)
Tracking better than UC but still 170k copies left unsold.
[3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (Ľ5.980) - 24.623 / 108.228 (-71%)
Tracking better than UC but still 170k copies left unsold.
Yay for U! :D
The difference is actually 200K with Famitsu.
It needs to sell 1.45M over the next 4 weeks.
It needs to sell 219K next week to not fall behind further (using superior tracker).
But it doesn't need to just sell 100K every week.It is 160k behind but has sold near enough 100k every week for how ever long. it'll beat it for sure.
It needs to sell 1.45M over the next 4 weeks.
It needs to sell 219K next week to not fall behind further (using superior tracker).
So, did Dat LCD Vita help more than Vita TV in the end?
Well yeah, it's definitely not a good sign of overall health for the dedicated videogame market in Japan if only the 3DS is doing well. I wish both the Vita and WiiU were doing better but alas, it's obvious to see why they're struggling. PS4 next year will be interesting to watch.Originally Posted by metalslimer
True but with every other system being dead, failing, heading towards death the 3DS is the one place to look for health right now. The 3DS is doing great, no one can doubt that. I guess at least in my opinion, I want it do amazing to stop the decline Japan seems to be heading towards.
Lightning Returns dropped 82%
#goodweek
#goodweek
His head smashed in and his heart cut out and his liver removed and his bowels unplugged and his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off and his penis...
(Yesterday, 05:07 PM)
I want the PS4 to succeed in Japan, ideally. Having an underpowered and region locked piece of hardware as the only viable machine on the market means nothing to me. It'll be weird if we end up in a place where Japanese devs make games solely for mobiles and the 3DS and western devs make games solely for mobiles and consoles.Originally Posted by metalslimer
True but with every other system being dead, failing, heading towards death the 3DS is the one place to look for health right now. The 3DS is doing great, no one can doubt that. I guess at least in my opinion, I want it do amazing to stop the decline Japan seems to be heading towards.
Still, it's going to be what it's going to be. All we can do is watch it unfold.
I was thinking that thanks to bundles Wii U will at least have one million seller during its lifetime, something that was starting to look more unlikely every day with the current Wii U performance.
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (PSP the Best) (Capcom) {2011.09.22} - 15.113 / 324.206
Total - 4.826.665
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) {2013.09.14} - 1.875.115 / 3.145.292
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - Digital Sales (Capcom) {2013.09.14} - 256.203
Total - 3.401.495
[NGB] Pokémon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {1999.11.21} - 1.425.768 / 6.089.503
[GBA] Pokémon Ruby / Sapphire (Nintendo) {2002.11.21} - 1.245.003 / 5.337.045
[NDS] Pokémon Diamond / Pearl (Pokémon Co.) {2006.09.28} - 1.586.360 / 5.826.538
[NDS] Pokémon Black / White (Pokémon Co.) {2010.09.18} - 2.637.285 / 5.488.538
[NDS] Pokémon Black 2 / White 2 (Pokémon Co.) {2012.06.23} - 1.618.621 / 2.997.712
[3DS] Pokémon X / Y (Pokémon Co.) {2013.10.12} - 2.096.050 / 3.356.354
[3DS] Pokémon X / Y - Digital Sales (Pokémon Co.) {2013.10.12} - 33.911
Total - 3.390.265
It's been a while since I last updated these charts.10./13. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (Ľ5.985) - 24.978 / 663.733 <80-100%> (+38%)
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (Capcom) {2010.12.01} - 2.146.467 / 4.502.446Code:
------------------------------------------------------------- | | MH Portable 3rd | Monster Hunter 4 | Difference | | | [PSP] (2010.12.01)| [3DS] (2013.09.14)| | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | MHP3rd - MH4 | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | 1 |2.146.467|2.146.467|1.875.115|1.875.115| -271.352| | 2 | 514.198|2.660.665| 432.286|2.307.401| -353.264| | 3 | 434.837|3.095.502| 234.713|2.542.114| -553.388| | 4 | 385.487|3.480.989| 164.593|2.706.707| -774.282| | 5 | 317.471|3.798.460| 111.230|2.817.937| -980.523| | 6 | 155.839|3.954.299| 97.336|2.915.273| -1.039.026| | 7 | 80.703|4.035.002| 60.206|2.975.479| -1.059.523| | 8 | 56.450|4.091.452| 47.393|3.022.872| -1.068.580| | 9 | 39.453|4.130.905| 39.167|3.062.039| -1.068.866| | 10 | 32.655|4.163.560| 32.813|3.094.852| -1.068.708| | 11 | 104.900|4.268.460| 24.684|3.119.536| -1.148.924| | 12 | 26.865|4.295.325| 25.756|3.145.292| -1.150.033| | 13 | 20.594|4.315.919| | | | | 14 | 16.912|4.332.831| | | | | 15 | 13.981|4.346.722| | | | | 16 | 11.924|4.358.646| | | | | 17 | 13.536|4.372.182| | | | | 18 | 12.946|4.385.128| | | | | 19 | 9.589|4.394.171| | | | | 20 | 6.246|4.400.963| | | | | 21 | 5.929|4.406.892| | | | | 22 | 7.442|4.414.334| | | | | 23 | 7.381|4.421.175| | | | | 24 | 3.844|4.425.599| | | | | 25 | 3.766|4.429.365| | | | | 26 | 4.360|4.433.725| | | | | 27 | 4.170|4.437.895| | | | | 28 | 3.856|4.441.751| | | | | 29 | 3.796|4.445.547| | | | | 30 | 3.711|4.449.258| | | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Year| YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | Difference | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | 1 |3.480.989|3.480.989|3.145.292|3.145.292| -335.697| | 2 |1.024.457|4.502.446| -| -| -| |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | LTD| -|4.502.446| -|3.145.292| -1.357.154| ------------------------------------------------------------- |LTD2| -|4.826.665| -|3.401.495| -1.425.170| ------------------------------------------------------------- LTD2 = Physical copies + budget re-releases + download cards + digital sales if available
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (PSP the Best) (Capcom) {2011.09.22} - 15.113 / 324.206
Total - 4.826.665
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) {2013.09.14} - 1.875.115 / 3.145.292
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - Digital Sales (Capcom) {2013.09.14} - 256.203
Total - 3.401.495
[NGB] Pokémon Red / Green / Blue (Nintendo) {1996.02.27} - 140.074 / 7.783.101Code:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | |[NGB]Pokémon G / S |[GBA]Pokémon R / S |[NDS]Pokémon D / P |[NDS]Pokémon B / W |[3DS]Pokémon X / Y | | | (1999.11.21) | (2002.11.21) | (2006.09.06) | (2010.09.18) | (2013.10.12) | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| | 1 |1.425.768|1.425.768|1.245.003|1.245.003|1.586.360|1.586.360|2.637.285|2.637.285|2.096.050|2.096.050| | 2 | 438.280|1.864.049| 471.538|1.716.541| 433.793|2.020.153| 772.172|3.409.457| 591.025|2.687.075| | 3 | 453.500|2.317.549| 321.408|2.037.949| 291.178|2.311.331| 372.619|3.782.076| 265.984|2.953.059| | 4 | 301.003|2.618.551| 336.847|2.374.796| 231.627|2.542.958| 231.161|4.013.237| 137.720|3.090.779| | 5 | 436.828|3.055.379| 437.352|2.812.148| 209.288|2.752.246| 151.375|4.164.612| 89.569|3.180.348| | 6 | 573.247|3.628.627| 385.614|3.197.762| 183.048|2.935.294| 70.769|4.235.381| 64.341|3.244.689| | 7 | 477.507|4.106.134| 408.831|3.606.593| 124.738|3.060.032| 60.921|4.296.302| 51.118|3.295.807| | 8 | 258.734|4.364.868| 126.398|3.732.991| 101.113|3.161.145| 48.426|4.344.728| 60.547|3.356.354| | 9 | 145.778|4.510.646| 105.173|3.838.164| 110.946|3.272.091| 38.282|4.383.010| | | | 10 | 144.733|4.655.379| 66.054|3.904.218| 100.215|3.372.306| 37.706|4.420.716| | | | 11 | 120.138|4.775.517| 56.075|3.960.293| 151.036|3.523.342| 36.156|4.456.872| | | | 12 | 98.055|4.873.571| 40.764|4.001.057| 225.228|3.748.570| 54.446|4.511.318| | | | 13 | 76.713|4.950.284| 44.240|4.045.297| 429.017|4.177.587| 78.108|4.589.426| | | | 14 | 50.421|5.000.705| 34.871|4.080.168| 125.228|4.302.815| 125.697|4.715.123| | | | 15 | 48.587|5.049.292| 31.434|4.111.602| 214.274|4.517.089| 199.690|4.914.813| | | | 16 | 47.512|5.096.804| 28.464|4.140.066| 58.725|4.575.814| 74.338|4.989.151| | | | 17 | 43.827|5.140.631| 28.840|4.168.906| 49.050|4.624.864| 47.573|5.036.724| | | | 18 | 34.957|5.175.589| 35.536|4.204.442| 48.783|4.673.647| 18.696|5.055.420| | | | 19 | 33.367|5.208.956| 39.467|4.243.909| 45.467|4.719.114| 13.548|5.068.968| | | | 20 | 29.743|5.238.698| 38.913|4.282.822| 43.947|4.763.061| 12.553|5.081.521| | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| |Year| YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| | 1 |3.628.627|3.628.627|3.197.762|3.197.762|4.302.815|4.302.815|4.914.813|4.914.813|3.356.354|3.356.354| | 2 |2.383.096|6.011.723|1.704.458|4.902.220|1.094.389|5.397.204| 464.322|5.379.135| | | | 3 | 76.421|6.088.144| 287.026|5.189.246| 227.226|5.624.430| 98.417|5.477.552| | | | 4 | | | 113.430|5.302.676| 127.567|5.751.997| 10.986|5.488.538| | | | 5 | | | 34.369|5.337.045| 41.343|5.793.340| | | | | | 6 | | | | | 21.717|5.815.057| | | | | | 7 | | | | | 10.165|5.825.222| | | | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| | LTD| |6.089.503| |5.337.045| |5.826.538| |5.488.538| |3.356.354| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |LTD2| |6.089.503| |5.337.045| |5.826.538| |5.488.538| |3.390.265| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LTD2 = Physical copies + budget re-releases + download cards + digital sales if available
[NGB] Pokémon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {1999.11.21} - 1.425.768 / 6.089.503
[GBA] Pokémon Ruby / Sapphire (Nintendo) {2002.11.21} - 1.245.003 / 5.337.045
[NDS] Pokémon Diamond / Pearl (Pokémon Co.) {2006.09.28} - 1.586.360 / 5.826.538
[NDS] Pokémon Black / White (Pokémon Co.) {2010.09.18} - 2.637.285 / 5.488.538
[NDS] Pokémon Black 2 / White 2 (Pokémon Co.) {2012.06.23} - 1.618.621 / 2.997.712
[3DS] Pokémon X / Y (Pokémon Co.) {2013.10.12} - 2.096.050 / 3.356.354
[3DS] Pokémon X / Y - Digital Sales (Pokémon Co.) {2013.10.12} - 33.911
Total - 3.390.265
Last edited by Bruno MB; Yesterday at 05:41 PM.
Shouldn't be surprised that OG NSMBU is still selling since it seems to be the default game people pick up to play on their Wii U. Is the NSMBU+Luigi U bundle in Japan? Seems like that bundle will play well in Japan.10./13. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (Ľ5.985) - 24.978 / 663.733 <80-100%> (+38%)
Should I be trying to read anything into Mirai 2 doing worse than 1 first week?
Kamen Rider is supposed to be some kind of action game.
What do they mean by <TBL> ?
What do they mean by <TBL> ?
Lifetime I see PS4 doing pretty much same as PS3. Same games, same audience. Maybe something like 20% drop because of shrinking market (people going mobile, demographic issues of Japan etc.).
Last edited by KillerMan91; Yesterday at 05:20 PM.
Mario holding up alright, but probably won't hit 500K unless the next few weeks are really good for Wii U sales.
That drop rate for Lightning Returns.
That drop rate for Lightning Returns.
Yay @ Bruno.
Maybe you could add digital sales to that chart? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1159
MH4 Sept + Oct = 256,203
XY Oct = 33,911
November yet to be released.
Maybe you could add digital sales to that chart? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1159
MH4 Sept + Oct = 256,203
XY Oct = 33,911
November yet to be released.
No? Sold a bit less on Famitsu, and a bit more on Media Create. Very similar debut.Originally Posted by Cosmo Clock 21
Should I be trying to read anything into Mirai 2 doing worse than 1 first week?
Hmm, I think so; but still better price launching in February in a shrunken console market v. ridiculous price launching in December way back when. I'm expecting pretty rapid collapse though even with a good start, but it would be nice if it didn't collapse to Wii U levels, as I still want my Japanese third party console games...Originally Posted by Magicpaint
Should start much better than the PS3 at least...?
I also don't know whether, like in the US and Europe, the Japanese are really after new shiny graphics, they seem relatively satisfied with what we currently have.
Mario deserve so much more. Definitely GOTY for me. It is just so good.
I hope that Wii U bump keeps on bumping up and up and up.
I hope that Wii U bump keeps on bumping up and up and up.
I didn't realise that the last ytd was weekly too, that would explain it!Originally Posted by Magicpaint
Only the DS and 3DS have had 5m years. Not GBA, not PS2, not Wii. 5m is huge.
Again, this ignores that last year the 3DS also sold past this week :P The comparison is week aligned. Unless P&D Z pushes ridiculous amounts of 3DSes (doubtful), it'll definitely fall behind 2012.
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