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What? :The event where the 32 teams that qualified for the 2014 football World Cup Finals are drawn into 8 groups of 4 for the group stage of the competition.

Where?: The upmarket coastal resort town of Costa do Sauipe in the province of Bahia, approximately 56 miles from the host city of Salvador.

When?: 1pm local, Friday 6th December 2013 (13:00 UTC/GMT -3 hours)
1am - Japan
3am - Sydney
8am - PST
10am - CST
11am - EST
4pm - Britain (GMT)

Duration: 90 minutes (the actually drawing wont likely take place until 45 minutes after the event starts)

Who?: 32 teams have qualified for the World Cup. They are as followed:

From Asia (AFC): Australia, Iran, Japan, South Korea
From Africa (CAF): Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria
From Europe (UEFA): Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, England, France, GErmany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Switzerland
From North and Central America (CONCACAF): Costa Rica, Honduras, Mexico, United States
From South America (CONMEBOL): Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Uruguay

How does it work?:
The draw is seeded according to recent FIFA World Rankings.
The 32 teams are divided into 4 pots, predominantly based on their geographic location.
Pot 1: Contains the seeded team: The hosts, Brazil, and the 7 highest FIFA ranked qualified teams (Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, Uruguay and Switzerland)
Pot 2: Unseeded South American teams and the African qualifiers.
Pot 3: Asian, North and Central American teams.
Pot 4: Unseeded European teams.

A total of eight groups will be made up of one team from each pot. FIFA do this to maintain their principle of geographic seperation in the groups. No more than two European countries can be in any one group.

It can't be that simple right. This is FIFA we're talking about
Correct. At the moment Pot 2 only has 7 teams and Pot 4 has 9. Typically, in cases such as this, the lowest rank unseeded European team would be moved from Pot 4 to Pot 2. That team would be France. But due to Platini's influence (conspiracy theory!) an unseeded European team from Pot 4 will be picked at random to move to Pot 2 instead. It remains however that no more than two European teams can be drawn together in a group.

There is also a Pot X. The four South American seeds - Brazil, Uruguay, Colombia, Argentina - will be put into a temporary Pot 'X'. The three teams not drawn against this relocated European team in Pot 2 will go back into the main draw. This is so that no two South American teams are drawn together.

Breaking down the Pots - Highlight = Avoid Bold = Want
Pot 1: Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, Uruguay, Switzerland
Pot 2: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Algeria, Nigeria, Cameroon, Chile, Ecuador, (and One Randomly Chosen Team from Pot4).
Pot 3: Japan, Iran, South Korea, Australia, United States, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras.
Pot 4: Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, England, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, France.


Lest we forget the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Ooccoo
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(Yesterday, 03:31 PM)
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Can't wait for a Belgium Vs. France match

Also, Germany should win this please
Espresso
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(Yesterday, 03:32 PM)
¡Vamos España!

Exterminieren
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(Yesterday, 03:33 PM)
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Switzerland is in the most eight seeded teams in the world? What?

I assume there's been some nice friendlies there.
Espresso
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(Yesterday, 03:37 PM)
Edit: Question answered below. No nationality tags.
Last edited by Espresso; Yesterday at 03:47 PM.
Coldplay619
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(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)
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Go Argentina maybe?
Loctope
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(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)
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England should probably be bolded lol
IceCold
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(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)
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Portugal will be in a group of death again most probably but that's ok. They excel when under pressure.
FuriousBearMan
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(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)
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I liked the vuvuzela. Gonna miss it.
StWilson85
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(Yesterday, 03:41 PM)
Calling it now

Switzerland
Algeria
Honduras
England
Firemind
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(Yesterday, 03:41 PM)
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Brazil/Italy/Mexico/Netherlands group of death. Calling it.
Hollywood Duo
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(Yesterday, 03:42 PM)
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So what is the US best case scenario?

Switzerland
Algeria
Bosnia-Herzegovina

and OP how is Belgium not an avoid and the US is?
Wes
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(Yesterday, 03:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Espresso

No nationality tags this World Cup?

I doubt it. That took WasabiKing and I a hell of a long time to do, and it ended up with more bickering from people complaining they didn't get one than any positives it brought.
GTP_Daverytimes
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(Yesterday, 03:42 PM)
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Has there been any logical explanation as to why there are so many European teams?
ElTopo
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(Yesterday, 03:43 PM)
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Can we fire Löw and get Gottmar as trainer?

Originally Posted by GTP_Daverytimes

Has there been any logical explanation as to why there are so many European teams?

There's much more good European teams. There's also more money for Blatter/FIFA in it.
ComputerMKII
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(Yesterday, 03:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by GTP_Daverytimes

Has there been any logical explanation as to why there are so many European teams?

Because they qualified?
Pacbois
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(Yesterday, 03:45 PM)
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I'd quite like to see :

Belgium
Algeria
Japan
France

Should be fun.
Hollywood Duo
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(Yesterday, 03:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by GTP_Daverytimes

Has there been any logical explanation as to why there are so many European teams?

Money? It's definitely not fair but I think everyone agrees on that.
Wes
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(Yesterday, 03:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

and OP how is Belgium not an avoid and the US is?

They're all relative to the Pot they are in.

Would you want to have to play anyone in Pot 1? Nope. But you have to so you want to avoid one of the consensus strongest four in Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina.

In Pot 3, Japan are far and away the strongest team. Widespread opinion is that US are the other main team you want to avoid from that pot as they won their qualifying and their general history in the competition. Once again, all relative to the other nations in their pot.
Addi
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(Yesterday, 03:48 PM)
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What? They actually changed the rules for France or did they decide that before they qualified? Definitely thought we were going to be in Pot 2 and end up in the group of death (and lose), now we might have a chance to get a bit further in the competition.
zomgbbqftw
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(Yesterday, 03:48 PM)
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England are going to get fucked over by Platini. Hot and cold balls coming up so England end up in pot two...
Hollywood Duo
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(Yesterday, 03:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wes

They're all relative to the Pot they are in.

Would you want to have to play anyone in Pot 1? Nope. But you have to so you want to avoid one of the consensus strongest four in Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina.

In Pot 3, Japan are far and away the strongest team. Widespread opinion is that US are the other main team you want to avoid from that pot as they won their qualifying and their general history in the competition. Once again, all relative to the other nations in their pot.

Ok, I can live with that :)
Wilbur
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(Yesterday, 03:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Exterminieren

Switzerland is in the most eight seeded teams in the world? What?

I assume there's been some nice friendlies there.

Please never question the FIFA rankings

They will turn your brains into mushy peas and cockrot

Anyway, England here innit. All my faith is being placed in the owl resembling visage of Roy fucking Hodgson.
Firemind
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(Yesterday, 03:51 PM)
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Japan is a strong team, I agree.

The US team is weaksauce. You only got lucky last WC because you drew England.

Come at me, bros.
shira
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(Yesterday, 03:52 PM)
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Why can't this just do this in a backroom like the NBA Draft. No cameras
IceCold
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(Yesterday, 03:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Addi

What? They actually changed the rules for France or did they decide that before they qualified? Definitely thought we were going to be in Pot 2 and end up in the group of death (and lose), now we might have a chance to get a bit further in the competition.

It was announced a couple of days ago.
Last edited by IceCold; Yesterday at 04:04 PM.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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(Yesterday, 03:53 PM)
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Costa Rican here. We are going to be one group's piñata. :-p
Wilbur
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(Yesterday, 03:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by shira

Why can't this just do this in a backroom like the NBA Draft. No cameras

Because it's not only Americans who give a shit about this
Dissonance
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(Yesterday, 03:55 PM)
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Gonna be cheering for Bosnia. Hopefully we get a decent group.
Tecl0n
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(Yesterday, 03:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Exterminieren

Switzerland is in the most eight seeded teams in the world? What?

I assume there's been some nice friendlies there.

it's lolfifarankings, argentina is like third and our defence is worthy of a second division team.
MrChom
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(Yesterday, 03:56 PM)
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Predicting England to qualify second in the group or go out there, then if they get through fall at the first hurdle and give us 4 more years of people moaning about us not being able to play as a team.

I like football...but my own national team and the expectations put on them by the public just annoy me so intensely at times....Yes, we're rubbish, this should be obvious, but no, some idiots always go "Well we should be beating ___$Name_of_Better_Team___"
Wilbur
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(Yesterday, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by BatiGOOOOOOL

Costa Rican here. We are going to be one group's piñata. :-p

Shit it's Batigol's pokemon evolution
Acorn
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(Yesterday, 03:58 PM)
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Forza Italia motherfuckers
Neo C.
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(Yesterday, 03:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by StWilson85

Calling it now

Switzerland
Algeria
Honduras
England

Should be:

Switzerland
Algeria
USA
England

AKA

England
Algeria
Switzerland
Yanks
ElTopo
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(Yesterday, 04:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Exterminieren

Switzerland is in the most eight seeded teams in the world? What?

I assume there's been some nice friendlies there.

They have the greatest trainer of all time. They have some decent players and the highly-talented Shaqiri. They've had very solid results in qualifying and in friendlies. If people think Switzerland is an easy draw they deserve their rough awakening.

Let's be clear, Switzerland>England right now.
Exterminieren
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(Yesterday, 04:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neo C.

Should be:

Switzerland
Algeria
USA
England

AKA

England
Algeria
Switzerland
Yanks

And then watch as we go out in the first round. British tabloid schadenfreude agogo.

Originally Posted by ElTopo

They have the greatest trainer of all time. They have some decent players and the highly-talented Shaqiri. They've had very solid results in qualifying and in friendlies.

Oh come off it. Solid results are all well and good, but Switzerland should be nowhere near the top 8 in the world. Half of Pots 2 and 4 should be above them.
Firemind
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(Yesterday, 04:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by MrChom

Predicting England to qualify second in the group or go out there, then if they get through fall at the first hurdle and give us 4 more years of people moaning about us not being able to play as a team.

I like football...but my own national team and the expectations put on them by the public just annoy me so intensely at times....Yes, we're rubbish, this should be obvious, but no, some idiots always go "Well we should be beating ___$Name_of_Better_Team___"

It's to be expected. The Brits invented football after all. '66 never forget
Dissonance
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(Yesterday, 04:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neo C.

Should be:

Switzerland
Algeria
USA
England

AKA

England
Algeria
Switzerland
Yanks



#neverforget
ElTopo
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(Yesterday, 04:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Exterminieren

Oh come off it. Solid results are all well and good, but Switzerland should be nowhere near the top 8 in the world. Half of Pots 2 and 4 should be above them.

I wouldn't put them in Top 8, but Top 16? Probably. Do I think they're particularly amazing? No, but they're solid, efficient and have Shaqiri. They're hardly an easy draw, even if for some reason one might think they're the weakest team in Pot 1.
Last edited by ElTopo; Yesterday at 04:12 PM.
MrChom
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(Yesterday, 04:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Firemind

It's to be expected. The Brits invented football after all. '66 never forget

It's at times like this where I like to claim to be either Irish or Ukrainian because frankly they're mildly less embarassing.
Kos Luftar
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(Yesterday, 04:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dissonance



#neverforget

Lol. Was that from last world cup?
Hollywood Duo
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(Yesterday, 04:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kos Luftar

Lol. Was that from last world cup?

lol yeah, in fairness they did advance.

this one is good too
Juicy Bob
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(Yesterday, 04:32 PM)
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Supporting my second nation Australia next summer because I find this entire England team totally unlikeable.

And the Socceroos will probably have a better chance of succeeding.
gutshot
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(Yesterday, 04:33 PM)
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US supporter here. Group of Death, here we come!
NaM
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(Yesterday, 04:35 PM)
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I want Portugal on my group.
Acorn
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(Yesterday, 04:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

lol yeah, in fairness they did advance.

this one is good too

Heh Green's career has never recovered.
Wilbur
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(Yesterday, 04:35 PM)
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Actually I kind of hope England get a tough group. That way we can just defend and be noble in defeat as opposed to being under the illusion our attacking threat is enough to destroy the likes of Algeria and sail through to the semis.

When Andros Townsend cuts inside and knobs it over the bar for the umpteenth time, I'll want to commit fucking seppuku anyway. Might as well get knocked out early so I can enjoy the rest of the competition without permanently touching the cloth on my Joe Hart briefs.
Rayven_king
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(Yesterday, 04:40 PM)
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Hope the african teams Don't get screwed Over
gutshot
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(Yesterday, 04:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Firemind

Japan is a strong team, I agree.

The US team is weaksauce. You only got lucky last WC because you drew England.

Come at me, bros.

Last WC we were coached by "Bunker" Bob Bradley. Now we're playing the beautiful game as taught by one Jurgën Klinsmann. Don't sleep on us.
Shadow780
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(Yesterday, 04:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

lol yeah, in fairness they did advance.

this one is good too



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