I've seen numerous posts of people saying that Nintendo should drop the Wii U Gamepad, which is completely wrongheaded. Instead, I've been thinking that instead, maybe they should have dropped Wii Remote compatibility. This may seem like a crazy idea, but when you think about it, not many Wii U games (other than Call of Duty) really take advantage of its special features, and it would have more effectively driven home the point that it is its own machine. The only downside is that it mean that the Wii U would no longer be backwards compatible with Wii games, but Wiis are pretty ubiquitous in homes anyway, so I don't think it's much of a loss.
Absolutely not. It's a good idea because it means they're not screwing customers by forcing them to have to pay $50 more for more controllers if they already have a Wii
What makes you think this would be a good idea at all? I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
Hmmm... no?
What would this accomplish?
Of course not. Many multiplayer games require them - not to mention the Wii's installed base, everybody and their respective grandma have Wii Remotes at home at this point. Forcing them to buy new Pro Controllers in order to play some games isn't smart. Also, backwards compatibility.
That's a whole lotta wrong in one paragraph.
This is the weirdest Wii U related question I've seen.
Fuck the Gamepad, fuck the Pro Controller, I would play Every. Single. Game. with the Wiimote if I had the option. I'll fucking cry if Zelda U goes Gamepad-only, and doesn't let me play it like Skyward Sword. I don't play FPS outside of mouse and Wiimote, and I sure as hell wouldn't enjoy Nintendoland if every player was just using an Xbox controller to do things.
So, this is completely and utterly my opinion here, but fuck your opinion on that. You're saying that should further undifferentiate here.
So, this is completely and utterly my opinion here, but fuck your opinion on that. You're saying that should further undifferentiate here.
Hell No! (Goes back to play Ghosts with pointer aiming).
Price it at 149.99 and I'm in controller or no controller.
No, more options is always better.
Worst idea ever?
Worst idea ever.
Worst idea ever.
They aren't forcing the Wii Remote on customers at all and it would take away backwards compatibility. So... no.
No they should drop the wiiu pad though.
Yes we all love paying more for no reason at all!
No, but they certainly should have included one with the system. :s
All other things being equal, the Wii U's role as the swiss army knife of controller configurations is a strength, not a weakness.
Games like Pikmin 3 would be greatly lessened by lack of wiimote+ support too.
Games like Pikmin 3 would be greatly lessened by lack of wiimote+ support too.
And be forced to plunk down another $150 for a full multiplayer setup?
Sign me up.
Sign me up.
If Nintendo has done one thing right with Wii U, it's backwards compatability, so no, I don't think they would be better off had they not included these options.
Wtf at these threads.
To help differentiate it more from the original Wii. One of the main complaints is that consumers were confused about the Wii U being a brand new console. Cutting Wii Remote compatibility would reenforce this idea.What makes you think this would be a good idea at all? I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
As for buying all new controllers, how is this any different for PS 4 and Xbox One owners having to buy brand new controllers for multiplayer and not being able to use their 360 and PS 3 controllers?
Actually no, they should have doubled down on the waggle and made it better. They could have supplemented the wiimotes with a Kinect-type camera system which really needs a controller input of some kind to be truly useful.
Then they could have not gone with the tablet and had a lower costing system. The pro controller could have also been packed in to play regular games.
They alienated their primary Wii userbase of casual gamers by moving back to traditional controls. They alienated the core gamer by continuing to lag behind the tech curve while attempting to provide similar controls as the PS4 and XBO. Lose/lose.
Then they could have not gone with the tablet and had a lower costing system. The pro controller could have also been packed in to play regular games.
They alienated their primary Wii userbase of casual gamers by moving back to traditional controls. They alienated the core gamer by continuing to lag behind the tech curve while attempting to provide similar controls as the PS4 and XBO. Lose/lose.
I can think of no benefit other than that this makes some sort of statement about the Wii U being "new" compared to the Wii; a message that is largely meaningless in the face of other more obvious things like the name of the console.
The compatibility has been great for playing multiplayer games. I think Nintendo made the entirely right decision in leaving compatibility intact. It isn't as though developers are being held back by wii-motes. They're using the gamepad first and foremost or they aren't making games for the Wii U. Their creativity or use of the device has nothing to do with supporting old controllers. Supporting these old devices has been a benefit to consumers and isn't holding the console back in any way.
The compatibility has been great for playing multiplayer games. I think Nintendo made the entirely right decision in leaving compatibility intact. It isn't as though developers are being held back by wii-motes. They're using the gamepad first and foremost or they aren't making games for the Wii U. Their creativity or use of the device has nothing to do with supporting old controllers. Supporting these old devices has been a benefit to consumers and isn't holding the console back in any way.
What? No.
this would be a horrible idea
go sit in the corner op
go sit in the corner op
All Nintendo had to do was call the Wii U a different name. Could have called it Nintendo U or whatever and it still could use Wii-motes and be backwards compatibility.
They should've left it in and named the system something different and not "wii" unless it was "wii 2"
ummmm no.. I had 4 controllers ready to go without having to buy anything.
they work fine for Mario/Wii Part/Wii Fit and sports
they work fine for Mario/Wii Part/Wii Fit and sports
BC is a major plus for the system. Wiimote compatibility is a major feature for multiplayer now and going forward. So no.
The difference is that I'm not buying a PS4 or XB1 in the near future, and when I do, there's a good chance that I'll be looking into converters instead of extra controllers due to the games I play.As for buying all new controllers, how is this any different for PS 4 and Xbox One owners having to buy brand new controllers for multiplayer and not being able to use their 360 and PS 3 controllers?
I'd say they should have stayed with motion controls instead, the possibilities with a 1:1 device like the + controller are endless.
But I still love the gamepad, it's pretty awesome.
But I still love the gamepad, it's pretty awesome.
Wii remote? Absolutely.
Wii remote plus? No, it's essential.
Wii remote plus? No, it's essential.
why would they decrease their value...
No it wouldn't. The Wii U looks and sounds like a controller add on for the Wii. Taking out Wiimote compatibility would do nothing to change that perception.To help differentiate it more from the original Wii. One of the main complaints is that consumers were confused about the Wii U being a brand new console. Cutting Wii Remote compatibility would reenforce this idea.
That would have been a terrible idea
When I worked game retail one of the biggest complaints come every generation change from the more casual buyers was that they had to buy a whole bunch of new controllers and accessories. With the Wii U it is one of the first systsems to have near complete controller backwards conpatability. This is a good thing. It is better to have more options. Always.
I think there has been some issues in regards to confusion about what's needed for local multiplayer. This was especially true initially when it was very unclear about the requirements for something like New Super Mario out of the box. "All right, I have two Wiimotes from owning a Wii, I picked up a Pro Controller, and I obviously have a GamePad. I'm good for 4-player Mario, right? Wait, what!? I can only play two player because only the Wii-mote can be used!? Are you kidding me!?" There was some issues in terms of whether or not Motion Plus would be required for certain mini-games in something like NintendoLand. As such, I can see suggesting that the current setup is confusing.
But having said that, I can't even begin to agree with this suggestion. Backward compatibility does far more good than harm in my book, and for the local multiplayer stuff I don't know why the situation would be improved at all forcing people to upgrade to the Pro Controller.
But having said that, I can't even begin to agree with this suggestion. Backward compatibility does far more good than harm in my book, and for the local multiplayer stuff I don't know why the situation would be improved at all forcing people to upgrade to the Pro Controller.
I've spent so many good moments with wiimotes on Wii U already, playing Pikmin 3, or Mario with the kids, etc.
That's a big no from my side. What Nintendo should do is explain better what's in it for the customer, how they can extend the value of wiimotes they already own, how it makes it a mean to play all their multiplayer games at no extra cost. This financial benefit has been extremely poorly communicated.
That's a big no from my side. What Nintendo should do is explain better what's in it for the customer, how they can extend the value of wiimotes they already own, how it makes it a mean to play all their multiplayer games at no extra cost. This financial benefit has been extremely poorly communicated.
They shouldn't have included backwards compatibility in the first place. From what I've read they could have designed a more powerful system with the same manufacturing cost had they foregone backwards compatibility concerns.
This would accomplish absolutely nothing besides forcing more people to buy controllers to play multiplayer.
One of their main selling points right now is that they're the only backwards compatible console this generation so...no
There are a lot of haters on here but I know what you're saying. I look at the Wiimote as a terrible time in the history of Nintendo. I'm a huge Ninty fan and bought Wii U at launch because I was excited to move into the future with them. I never want to use a Wiimote again if I can avoid it, but it's needed to do multiplayer games. I can't even imagine how much it would suck to play Mario 3D World using a Wiimote held sideways.
It is different. It's different good. If anything, it's a negative point for PS4 and xbone not allowing to reuse their old controller, especially when they are quasi identical.As for buying all new controllers, how is this any different for PS 4 and Xbox One owners having to buy brand new controllers for multiplayer and not being able to use their 360 and PS 3 controllers?
Not calling it the Wii U and not deciding to reveal your new console without actually showing the console* (I don't think it ever lived this down, the re-reveal didn't help either) are how you differentiate it from the original Wii.To help differentiate it more from the original Wii. One of the main complaints is that consumers were confused about the Wii U being a brand new console. Cutting Wii Remote compatibility would reenforce this idea.
People don't see Wii U and go "oh it uses Wiimotes just like a Wii does" they go "Oh a Wii, already got ones of those, not played mine in years, waste of money" or "$350 for a tablet? Why can't I get it without the system, its just an accessory".
*-Fine, it was sitting by the TV in the first promo shots but most lacked the eagle eyes for that
Because Nintendo is clearly all about putting more horsepower into their machines...They shouldn't have included backwards compatibility in the first place. From what I've read they could have designed a more powerful system with the same manufacturing cost had they foregone backwards compatibility concerns.
No, not really. That's like saying i7's are terribad because they can run the same code that a Centrino can.They shouldn't have included backwards compatibility in the first place. From what I've read they could have designed a more powerful system with the same manufacturing cost had they foregone backwards compatibility concerns.
Power reduction factors are the Gamepad, super low TDP goal, size goal, and it's not subsidized by PS+.
The PS4 and Xbone aren't lacking BC because the PS3 and 360 were just completely shit when it came to a lot of key design factors, and the PS4 and Xbone decided that they were going to keep going down the shit hole.
Sorry OP but this is crazy. When people say they want the Wii U gamepad removed they are saying this to lower the price of the system. The perspective is that the Wii U would sell better if they weren't priced so close to the next gen systems.
Your argument would make more sense if you were suggesting Nintendo drop the Wii U name/logo. Dropping Wii controller support doesn't support this or the other argument.
Your argument would make more sense if you were suggesting Nintendo drop the Wii U name/logo. Dropping Wii controller support doesn't support this or the other argument.
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