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Poetic.Injustice
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(Yesterday, 08:10 PM)
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Speaking among the pages of this month’s GameInformer, Activision’s head of publishing was asked if the Call of Duty brand was in danger of perishing under gamer fatigue.

He replied, “No,” and added, “We’ve been pretty transparent all year that we think, because of the challenges of the console transition year, that that was likely in the short-term. I think it would be a mistake to conflate the challenges of the console transition year with any indications about the health of the franchise.”

The magazine then asked Hirsberg if annualising the brand has perhaps caused diminishing returns to this pointm and it was suggested that this is a popular view among critics. He replied, “Well no, obviously not – and obviously I don’t agree with the critics there. I know that Call of Duty’s a polarising franchise with some of the critics, and it’s clear to me that not all the critics like our strategy of making a game every year, but thankfully our fans do.

“It’s also clear to me that the critical response doesn’t always mirror the fans’ appreciation of a game. We actually do read the critics’ comments and take them into consideration during our creative process, but we just can’t measure ourselves by that yardstick alone.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/12/04/call...ys-activision/
Creaking
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(Yesterday, 08:12 PM)
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I certainly don't appreciate 75% of my deaths coming from behind.
antitrop
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(Yesterday, 08:12 PM)
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The game is absolute fucking garbage. I regret my purchase wholeheartedly.

Critics were far too kind to the multiplayer.
TemplaerDude
(Yesterday, 08:13 PM)
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"As long as you sheep keep buying this crap, why would we need to actually change shit?
Divvy
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(Yesterday, 08:13 PM)
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This is what everyone says when their creation sucks.
Nokterian
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(Yesterday, 08:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

The game is absolute fucking garbage. I regret my purchase wholeheartedly.

Critics were far too kind to the multiplayer.

Agreed worst money spend.
Frillen
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(Yesterday, 08:13 PM)
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Fix your goddamn spawn system. Your maps also sucks, and are nowhere near the quality of MW1/MW2 maps.
nhlducks35
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(Yesterday, 08:13 PM)
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"Doesn't always" is the key part here, which is true.
CronoShot
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(Yesterday, 08:14 PM)
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The maps are awful.

Why are there 5 doors leading into every room?
Xater
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(Yesterday, 08:14 PM)
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Even ignoring the lackluster looking versions for the new consoles you still made a boring game.
RoboPlato
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(Yesterday, 08:14 PM)
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Hasn't the fan reaction been even more negative?
Liamario
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(Yesterday, 08:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by TemplaerDude

"As long as you sheep keep buying this crap, why would we need to actually change shit?

Exactly. The series lost all creative credibility many games ago.
Mr Moose
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(Yesterday, 08:15 PM)
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Spawn system is shitty, and there's only about 3 good maps.
But I quite like the game overall (the story was crap though).
Sajjaja
(Yesterday, 08:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

The game is absolute fucking garbage. I regret my purchase wholeheartedly.

Critics were far too kind to the multiplayer.

Your money tells them otherwise :p

I got Ghosts for free lol. I enjoyed the SP.
kazebyaka
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(Yesterday, 08:15 PM)
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I'm a fan and i like it a lot. Already 100 hours into MP.
RS4-
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(Yesterday, 08:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoboPlato

Hasn't the fan reaction been even more negative?

Not a fan if you shit on the game.
Parakeetman
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(Yesterday, 08:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

The game is absolute fucking garbage. I regret my purchase wholeheartedly.

Critics were far too kind to the multiplayer.

Glad I held of on taking the plunge just out of pure curiosity.
Biskie
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(Yesterday, 08:16 PM)
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I liked the campaign, but that multiplayer.. they really messed things up this time around. From what I've seen the overall fan response has been negative.
Derrick01
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(Yesterday, 08:16 PM)
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Sorry Activision but the Knack defense isn't going to work here.
The Real Napsta
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Originally Posted by antitrop

The game is absolute fucking garbage. I regret my purchase wholeheartedly.

Critics were far too kind to the multiplayer.

I don't understand this reaction at all. It has the most balanced MP since BO1
Bright-Light
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(Yesterday, 08:17 PM)
I actually enjoyed the single player. Blasted through it in 1 sitting yesterday. Not the best campaign, but I had fun. Only played 1 game of MP last night so don't have much experience to form a full idea yet. But it was damn fast, and the kills are just so quick.
RoboPlato
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(Yesterday, 08:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by RS4-

Not a fan if you shit on the game.

I meant series fans. I know quite a few people who are CoD diehards that are very disappointed and they clearly aren't alone.
Creaking
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(Yesterday, 08:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Liamario

Exactly. The series lost all creative credibility many games ago.

I appreciate that Treyarch tried new things with Black Ops 2, even if it didn't totally work and the MP was overloaded with killstreaks. Hope they can do something special with the series when their turn comes again.

Ghosts feels like a step back in a way that doesn't feel too hot.


I've always got to say though: I love Extinction!
Henry Jones Jr
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(Yesterday, 08:17 PM)
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But their commercial says that all the critics love it?
antitrop
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(Yesterday, 08:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sajjaja

Your money tells them otherwise :p

Well, I sure as hell won't be buying their overpriced, highway-robbery map packs.

I'm all about Battlefield 4, already have Premium on that, just waiting for them to patch that game more, then Titanfall, next year.
My money is going to EA. They're making the games that I want to play, despite their business practices.
SFenton
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(Yesterday, 08:18 PM)
I'm okay with the multiplayer. Certainly not the best, and it's aggravating where some deaths come from, but it's alright and it has a good playerbase, at least on next-gen.

Single-player was crap up until the end- I genuinely like the idea of the ending and I hope you get to play as an evil guy in the next game. That would change up things a *lot*.
Dysun
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(Yesterday, 08:18 PM)
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I traded this game in after a week. The worst multiplayer since CoD4 by far.
Maps suck, weapons do too much damage/nerfed HP, spawns suck, weapon unlock discourages experimentation, leveling up takes longer than usual. Just a mess
Creaking
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(Yesterday, 08:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

Well, I sure as hell won't be buying their overpriced, highway-robbery map packs.
...
My money is going to EA.

Into
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(Yesterday, 08:19 PM)
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As a fan of the series and not a hater, i found it very underwhelming. It was very bare bones compared to Blops 2, a far superior game.

Ghosts is even worse than Modern Warfare 2, one hell of a feat but they managed.
Green Slime
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(Yesterday, 08:20 PM)
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Translation: People bought our shit anyway.

Seems simple enough.
Meia
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(Yesterday, 08:20 PM)
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Your game is garbage.


I spent an entire YEAR playing Blops 2 on PC, and there was no real hacking. Any that popped up were dealt with pretty fast, this after years of playing til maybe April before stopping due to rampant hack use.



Yeah, I've stopped playing ALREADY because of it. Terrible unfun kill-streaks, bad lag(hell, REMOVING the ability to see ping!), and just an inferior game system in almost every way to your previous game in the series. Great job Activision.
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(Yesterday, 08:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by RS4-

Not a fan if you shit on the game.

I'm one of the biggest Call of Duty fans there are. I've been with the series since the very first one on PC and I consider 4 to be one of the best games ever made. I've bought and played them all.

Ghosts is an embarrassment to the name of Infinity Ward.

Bring on Titanfall.
shagg_187
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(Yesterday, 08:21 PM)
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Its the most balanced COD game out there, with one of the worst maps in the series.

Fucking shame that I have to put up with shitty maps that reward campers.
jacob armitage
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(Yesterday, 08:21 PM)
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I bought it because i was fed up with the broken state of Battlefield 4 and thought it'd tie me over. It did not, i'll take the broken ass Battlefield 4.

And i enjoyed Black Ops 2.

The game simple has nothing remarkable to it and the worst map design i've seen yet in a Modern Warfare + Cod game.

Though i will say i have not spent very much time and perhaps the maps'll grow on me when i spend more time with them.
Animefreek
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(Yesterday, 08:22 PM)
I appreciate how much resale value their game has.
antitrop
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Originally Posted by Creaking

Battlefield Premium is not highway robbery, it's actually a great deal.

It is a shame the game was launched in a broken state, but the game is totally legit once they fix all the bugs/crashes. Puts Ghosts to absolute shame in the gameplay/map department. And every other way, too.
Silky
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(Yesterday, 08:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Creaking

I certainly don't appreciate 75% of my deaths coming from behind.

free :P

Activision I like B. Ops 2, make more games like B. Ops 2.

I mean ghosts was underwhelming but it wasn't as broken as BF4 lol
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RE_Player
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(Yesterday, 08:23 PM)
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Yes it does. Super anecdotal evidence but I know die hard Call of Duty fans that used to talk about nothing else during high school all the way through university. This is the first year they have spoken ill of the franchise or skipped it entirely.
Kade
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(Yesterday, 08:24 PM)
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In between this year's CoD and next year's, we'll have Titanfall, Destiny and console launches so we'll see how much fans really like the series come November 2014.
Prince Vultan
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(Yesterday, 08:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Derrick01

Sorry Activision but the Knack defense isn't going to work here.

lol, came to make this exact post.
Nivane
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(Yesterday, 08:24 PM)

Originally Posted by Dysun

I traded this game in after a week. The worst multiplayer since CoD4 by far.
Maps suck, weapons do too much damage/nerfed HP, spawns suck, weapon unlock discourages experimentation, leveling up takes longer than usual. Just a mess

I was looking to trade it in as well, but yikes -- it's down to $26 already on Amazon trade in for the XB1 version.
TacticalFox88
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(Yesterday, 08:25 PM)
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Battlefield is heading towards the CoD route eventually.

It's only a matter of time.
ComputerMKII
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(Yesterday, 08:25 PM)
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I've found every Call of Duty since CoD 4 tolerable or even enjoyable for a while but Ghosts is utter crap. I've played it less than 5 hours and I don't even want to play it anymore. Such a mess of a game.
Nymphae
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(Yesterday, 08:25 PM)
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“...because of the challenges of the console transition year, that that was likely in the short-term. I think it would be a mistake to conflate the challenges of the console transition year with any indications about the health of the franchise.”

He's blaming the franchise fatigue on the console transition? How does that make sense?
You should have the same number of people, or more, buying your game on PS360 or PS4/One if there is no fatigue.
Meia
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(Yesterday, 08:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Liamario

Exactly. The series lost all creative credibility many games ago.


Maybe, but this is the first entry in the series that's actually *unfun* to play, even with friends. That's a major point...



BTW, one other major point: I don't remember a CoD on PC ever being on sale on Steam this close to release...
Rice-Eater
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(Yesterday, 08:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by CronoShot

The maps are awful.

Why are there 5 doors leading into every room?

LOL this so much. I use love Domination in Modern Warfare, LOVE IT. Now I fucking hate domination because every time I try to capture a flag I have to worry about that left corner, the right corner, the 1st floor window from that building next to me, the 2nd floor window in that building next to me, the roof on the other side, the alley inbetween those two buildings. WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING SHOT FROM 20 DIFFERENT ANGLES NO MATTER WHERE I AM ON THE MAP????

My god will they ever go back to the simpler map designs of the first Modern Warfare. Back when you can actually see the guy that killed you most of the time instead of this crap where you're always being shot from behind or sideways because their are 10 different paths to get to every location. Yeah I get that not everybody wants this design, but my post is all about what I want. I watch that back. Give me the choke points any day over worrying about trying to keep a eye on 5 different doors while trying to capture a flag.

And man, I really really miss shipment. So much chaos, but so much fun lol.
ButchCat
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(Yesterday, 08:26 PM)
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Yes Activision dig yourself a nice deep grave.
Intheflorsh
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(Yesterday, 08:26 PM)
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Funny, because lots of the self described COD fans were getting sick of the recent games long before critics were.
Creaking
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(Yesterday, 08:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

Battlefield Premium is not highway robbery, it's actually a great deal.

It is a shame the game was launched in a broken state, but the game is totally legit once they fix all the bugs/crashes. Puts Ghosts to absolute shame in the gameplay/map department. And every other way, too.

I know, I bought premium just the other day. I just thought it was funny.
stfuppercut
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(Yesterday, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Meia

Maybe, but this is the first entry in the series that's actually *unfun* to play, even with friends. That's a major point...

MW3 and Blops 2 say hello. Ghosts is def. worse though.

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