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SolidSnakeUS
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(Yesterday, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by ButchCat

Yes Activision dig yourself a nice deep grave.

What's worse is, is that with how much they got just for selling copies to retailers, they'll make a game next year with the same shitty quality and same shitty problems.
RoboPlato
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(Yesterday, 08:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

Battlefield Premium is not highway robbery, it's actually a great deal.

It is a shame the game was launched in a broken state, but the game is totally legit once they fix all the bugs/crashes. Puts Ghosts to absolute shame in the gameplay/map department. And every other way, too.

Preach.

I think the state that BF4 launched in is going to be what keeps the series from overtaking CoD.
Neuromancer
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(Yesterday, 08:28 PM)
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One of my issues is the mode I was most excited to play, Squads, is really limited. You can't earn customization items so you're stuck with a few variations of the stock dudes. Which is a shame, since I wanted to recreat the Bad Company squad. You can play against other people's squads on whatever map/mode they've created but most people stick with the default so that gets old. You can't ever really pick map and mode yourself.

Extinction is really good, but unfortunately it's scaled in such a way that as far as I can tell it's almost impossible for a two man team (or at least my two man team) to clear the second area. I believe it's really designed for 4 people and anything less just isn't feasible.

Haven't touched the SP yet as I hear it's not very good, but I will someday just for the spectacle of it all.
UberTag
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(Yesterday, 08:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Derrick01

Sorry Activision but the Knack defense isn't going to work here.

Actually the Knack defense DOES work here so long as Call of Duty: Ghosts is the best-selling title on not one but FIVE different platforms and that it continues to sell above and beyond any other title on the market despite what should be horrendous word-of-mouth.

So long as consumers keep swallowing, Activision is perfectly justified to continue to pour shit down their throats.
"See, they appreciate it. They keep coming back for more!"
antitrop
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(Yesterday, 08:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoboPlato

Preach.

I think the state that BF4 launched in is going to be what keeps the series from overtaking CoD.

Yup, it really is such a shame. EA shot themselves in the foot.
NFotos
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(Yesterday, 08:29 PM)
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I though this game was actually pretty good at launch. I liked it.

Week Later... Holy fuck this game is trash. I can't play for more than 10 minutes without getting angry. I want my money back.
Meia
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(Yesterday, 08:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by stfuppercut

MW3 and Blops 2 say hello. Ghosts is def. worse though.


I know this is a pure "your mileage may vary thing", but from my experience, it matters.


I'm in a WoW guild, and when the CoD craze started, a bunch of us starting playing together on domination, and it would be a yearly thing. Usually we have until April before hacks take over making the game too frustrating to play/bother with, but even then, I've always had over 200 hours in each installment(Ghosts being 400 hours), while my friend has had close to 800 with the last one(usually almost always doubles my playtime).


Yeah, he quit too.
SolidSnakeUS
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(Yesterday, 08:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

Yup, it really is such a shame. EA shot themselves in the foot.

Agreed. BF3's Premium is worth it, mainly because it's not just maps, but modes, guns, weapons and a bunch of new stuff in general.
Sir Garbageman
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(Yesterday, 08:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

The game is absolute fucking garbage. I regret my purchase wholeheartedly.

Critics were far too kind to the multiplayer.

Agreed. The MP is horrible.
gregor7777
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(Yesterday, 08:30 PM)
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My issue with the game is that it comes off as uninspired.

That probably sounds funny given it's a yearly franchise, but Blops2 felt like they gave a damn with their design.

This one feels "B-team mail-in". Sorry if any of you worked on it, but this shit is bland.
alterno69
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(Yesterday, 08:31 PM)
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I like it, COD is my go to game when i want to have a fun casual night of gaming. It's my most played game every year and even tho i always hate it at first, once i get to know the maps and how they flow i usually have a fun time.

I'm happy with the game on PS4, it looked like ASS on my PS3 but i bought it to keep me busy while the PS4 launched.
Whompa
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(Yesterday, 08:31 PM)
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Activision, seriously.

SolidSnakeUS
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(Yesterday, 08:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sir Garbageman

Agreed. The MP is horrible.

Still think it's astonishing how it got better reviews than KZ Shadow Fall...
prag16
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(Yesterday, 08:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by CronoShot

The maps are awful.

Why are there 5 doors leading into every room?

Yeah. They're too big with too many random paths and rooms, and no flow whatsoever.

The maps are the worst thing about this year's CoD. Which is a shame because even though the lag compensation is still as bad as ever, the hit detection is much better than BO2.
Ambient80
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(Yesterday, 08:31 PM)
I would pay big bucks for a full retail game of Extinction. Add maybe two other classes, some more pistols/launchers/melee weapons, several new alien enemies, and about ten maps. I have a blast playing it on just this one map!
antitrop
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(Yesterday, 08:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

Agreed. BF3's Premium is worth it, mainly because it's not just maps, but modes, guns, weapons and a bunch of new stuff in general.

Yeah, when Activision charges $15 for a map-pack, $50 for BF Premium seems like a damn gift from the heavens.

BF Premium is infinitely superior to Call of Duty Season Pass.
JLeack
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(Yesterday, 08:33 PM)
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I'm finding it fun but the maps and spawns are really bad.
Senor Kami
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(Yesterday, 08:34 PM)
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Why even bother with this? All that was needed was, "We make games for our fans, not for critics. When they show up every year to buy our titles, that let's us know if we're making them happy and on the right course or not. Their answer has been a resounding yes nearly a decade now. We will never forsake them simply to appease critics."

Then you have the option of, "oh you mean the same people who bullshitted the gaming world with fraudulent non-reality based Battlefield 4 reviews? Those are the people we should cater to?"

or this one which is always a classy respone, "Appease the critics? I think Jay-Z said it best with, "N**** you broke, what the f*** you gon' tell me?""
Mooreberg
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(Yesterday, 08:35 PM)
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The game would have to be really bad to be worse than Crashfield 4.
Creaking
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(Yesterday, 08:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by gregor7777

My issue with the game is that it comes off as uninspired.

That probably sounds funny given it's a yearly franchise, but Blops2 felt like they gave a damn with their design.

This one feels "B-team mail-in". Sorry if any of you worked on it, but this shit is bland.

I very much agree, and despite how much I find Ghosts underwhelming, I'm quite looking forward to Treyarch's next effort. Ever since IW got diluted after Modern Warfare 2, their games seem to have lost that creative spark that lets them innovate. Broken as it may have been, Modern Warfare 2 introduced more series staples than you can shake a stick at.
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(Yesterday, 08:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mooreberg

The game would have to be really bad to be worse than Crashfield 4.

Call of Duty: Ghosts will never be worth your money.

Battlefield 4 will be worth your money once they fix all the fucking bullshit crashes.

It is what it is.
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(Yesterday, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoboPlato

I meant series fans. I know quite a few people who are CoD diehards that are very disappointed and they clearly aren't alone.

Originally Posted by antitrop

I'm one of the biggest Call of Duty fans there are. I've been with the series since the very first one on PC and I consider 4 to be one of the best games ever made. I've bought and played them all.

Ghosts is an embarrassment to the name of Infinity Ward.

Bring on Titanfall.

I agree with both of you; and personally, the game hasn't been the same after 4, just shit upon shit every year.

Even with how terrible BF4 has been so far, Ghost is on a different level of bad when it comes to actual gameplay.
alterno69
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(Yesterday, 08:38 PM)
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I agree SOME of the maps are awful, i hate the castle map and another really large map with vegetation and destroyed buildings, can't remember the name but i hate them both with a passion.

Edit: Stonehaven and Siege, i hate thos maps. Chasm is also abysmal.
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VariantX
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(Yesterday, 08:41 PM)

Originally Posted by JLeack

I'm finding it fun but the maps and spawns are really bad.

Was pretty much done with the game when I was killed twice in the same killcam by the same person. Spawns are total garbage when they don't have to be. The maps are large, why the hell are people just killed spawning around the next corner?
Animefreek
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(Yesterday, 08:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Mooreberg

The game would have to be really bad to be worse than Crashfield 4.

Battlefield 4's current state may be a buggy piece of shit, but there's a decent game through all of it. Ghosts may not be as buggy as BF4, but there's nothing they can do to fix the horrible gameplay.
Ensoul
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(Yesterday, 08:42 PM)
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Who care what the critics say as long as the game sells? I do like the game but it's the weakest COD since world at war.

Problems include about 5 garbage maps, The span systems suck. Last time I played I was killed the second I spawned. I saw the replay and I could actually see myself spawning and being killed.

Maybe these can be fixed with a decent maps and updates.
IchigoSharingan
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(Yesterday, 08:44 PM)
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Fuck COD I'm going to BF4..

..


aww shit.
Eusis
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(Yesterday, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by UberTag

Actually the Knack defense DOES work here so long as Call of Duty: Ghosts is the best-selling title on not one but FIVE different platforms and that it continues to sell above and beyond any other title on the market despite what should be horrendous word-of-mouth.

So long as consumers keep swallowing, Activision is perfectly justified to continue to pour shit down their throats.
"See, they appreciate it. They keep coming back for more!"

I wonder how many simply "don't know better" (as in they don't really look at other games period), how many just get it as a social thing, and how many really do like this plenty even if they had played other games (or simply can't bring themselves to care about them)? There's always a lot of things people would possibly really like if they broadened their horizons, but I do think CoD's success at this point has a lot of inertia behind it. Nevermind how many disappointed customers there may be, just because a game sold a million doesn't mean you had a million people who liked it, not like we can choose to play the game THEN pay if we like it afterall without very generous demos or trials anyway.

Well, sales of future CoDs would probably dictate how many REALLY liked it, at least enough to keep buying it. The base that likes it but also would come to a place like this certainly sounds disappointed though, and critical scores didn't even dip THAT low, averaging around 70s rather than diving below the mid point in scoring.
AgentLampshade
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(Yesterday, 08:44 PM)
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"We're going to ignore legitimate criticism and keep doing what we've been doing because our fanbase are morons and don't seem to notice/care."
Alienous
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I doubt the developers themselves play Ghosts in their gaming time.
antitrop
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(Yesterday, 08:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by IchigoSharingan

Fuck COD I'm going to BF4..
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aww shit.

Standby for Titanfall.

gregor7777
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(Yesterday, 08:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by IchigoSharingan

Fuck COD I'm going to BF4..

..


aww shit.

Exactly lol.
Totobeni
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(Yesterday, 08:46 PM)
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the two top dogs of the FPS genre (BF4 and COD Ghosts) ended as complete trash fest. it's just sad that they'll sell millions.
MrDaravon
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(Yesterday, 08:49 PM)
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Except for a single one of my friends, Ghosts has completely soured every single person on my friends list on COD 100%; casuals, hardcore, the whole spectrum of players and every single one of them fucking hated it (with one exception). I have not sold a game that quickly since Devil May Cry 2. Absolute fucking garbage to the point where I'm not even going to trust Treyarch on their next game even though they had little to nothing to do with this. Activision killed COD before COD fatigue did. My backup plan was Battlfield 4, but the two friends I know who got that on 360 have quite literally not been able to complete a single match since they got it launch day and are as done with that game as the rest of us are with COD.

At this point I'm just hoping that Titanfall isn't complete garbage on 360, because there's jack shit else going on right now on lastgen consoles now in terms of competitive shooters.
IchigoSharingan
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(Yesterday, 09:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

Standby for Titanfall.

http://i.minus.com/ibmbc24t2wGR9i.gif

Seriously.

All the doubters that said Titanfall will never become a big thing are probably reconsidering their words.

The other titans have fallen, crushed by their own weight and as evidenced in this thread, by their own arrogance.

Respawn could not be in a better position to take the crown.
Creaking
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(Yesterday, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by IchigoSharingan


Respawn could not be in a better position to take the crown.

Well, they could be releasing on all the next gen platforms.

Crawl
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(Yesterday, 09:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

The game is absolute fucking garbage. I regret my purchase wholeheartedly.

Critics were far too kind to the multiplayer.

Agreed 100%.
Sushen
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(Yesterday, 09:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Creaking

I certainly don't appreciate 75% of my deaths coming from behind.

This pretty sums up my experience. Finally moving on from COD multilayer addiction. Easily the worst map design for me.

Prestiged every titles since mw1. No plan to play much longer.
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(Yesterday, 09:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

Standby for Titanfall.

I like you.
Dysun
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(Yesterday, 09:15 PM)
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BF4 is a great game and would put Ghosts to shame if it worked as intended. They had a golden chance
dmg04
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I haven't seen a single review saying "These spawns are absolute shit"

I've seen some that say "They need work", but nothing mirroring the fan response, as they so put it.
AHA-Lambda
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(Yesterday, 09:16 PM)
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Well I thought it was a hot pile, even compared to other CoDs.

Originally Posted by antitrop

Standby for Titanfall.

SolidSnakeUS
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(Yesterday, 09:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dysun

BF4 is a great game and would put Ghosts to shame if it worked as intended. They had a golden chance

BF4 has more of a lasting chance to be better than COD this time around though. BF4 still has a sizable community, pretty large in fact and very vocal. Those who usually play BF games usually stick with them. Especially with them coming out saying that they will put on hold all other projects to get it fixed definitely sends the right message, one that hasn't been done yet by IW (especially in fixing spawns and overall game performance).
dmg04
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(Yesterday, 09:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

BF4 has more of a lasting chance to be better than COD this time around though. BF4 still has a sizable community, pretty large in fact and very vocal. Those who usually play BF games usually stick with them. Especially with them coming out saying that they will put on hold all other projects to get it fixed definitely sends the right message, one that hasn't been done yet by IW (especially in fixing spawns and overall game performance).

COD is a yearly installment, though. Activision could give a shit less about lasting chances!
SolidSnakeUS
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(Yesterday, 09:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by dmg04

COD is a yearly installment, though. Activision could give a shit less about lasting chances!

But in terms of between the two games, BF4 has a much higher chance of getting itself righted in time.

As I stated in a previous post in this thread, Activision made enough just from retailers that they can make the same shitty game next year.
speculawyer
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(Yesterday, 09:23 PM)
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Translation: Who gives a shit about the reviews? We are still selling millions of them!
dragonfart28
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(Yesterday, 09:24 PM)
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Activision: Our fans are dumb and will buy it regardless.
TatteredHat
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(Yesterday, 09:32 PM)
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People will line up to buy the next installment anyway, why would they care?
simples
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took them longer than usual to guitar hero cod

#TeamTitanFall
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