LmaoOriginally Posted by Pauly Math
EA has been going down hill for a long time now, keep this up and they won't be around much longer. Too many of their titles have burned people, and the people will take their money elsewhere. I'm already now considering holding off on TitanFall as a day one purchase due to all of the EA issues. THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED!!
I would easily take that bet. You know there were two years in between 3 and 4 right?Originally Posted by CoffeeGames
All PR. Don't believe a word out of EA, or DICE. Didn't somebody at DICE recently say that EA doesn't make cookie cutter games?
They're probably already working on Battlefield 5 for 2014, that will be announced at E3 I would almost bet.
I haven't paid full price for an EA game for a looooooooong time.Pre Xbox 1 launch I was totally buying B4 day one, then the PS4 debacles made me wait to see how it shakes out. I'm thankful to all on here for the warnings, that at least kept $60 out of EA's pockets and I know I am not the only one that this applies to. It sucks for those that did buy it, as it seems to be a great game "when/if it works".
EA has been going down hill for a long time now, keep this up and they won't be around much longer. Too many of their titles have burned people, and the people will take their money elsewhere. I'm already now considering holding off on TitanFall as a day one purchase due to all of the EA issues. THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED!!
Saves me a ton of money, but Christ, I just can't buy any more EA games if this is the shit they are letting out the door. I was really looking forward to Titanfall too.
I literally feel like EA stole my money on this game.
I'm one of the millions of morons who bought the game day one on PC. I am thankfully not among the hundreds of thousands of super morons who purchased Premium in addition to the game. I really appreciate the commitment though, DICE. Clearly you are committed to your product and have been since it released only well over a month ago. I am still not having any problems with the 6th campaign mission in which the game crashes to desktop, or awesome multiplayer crashes to desktop 5 weeks after release. (get those sarcasm detectors working, people!)
I haven't bothered with Battlefield 4 in two weeks now outside of testing the 6th mission in the campaign after yesterday's patch, and I've been a happier person for it.
Fuck it I'm done buying ea games at launch of rather wait 2 weeks or a month or until a fire sale and at least spite EAs sales figures. What pisses me off the most is bf4 *could* be the best fps game I played in years. Ugh fuck you EA stop torpedoing your own developers that could make really great games but can't because you want to rush games to launch, split up the user base with 50 dollar premium, and waste time on a sp mode no one gives a shit about.
Releases game = Beta test
April 2014 = Real game
I hope WE learn from this, because for sure EA won't!
ugh!
Frankly, I think there should be some sort of legal action against EA and DICE. This isn't a one off hiccup, this is a pattern of releasing games that are simply unplayable and charging people $60 for what is essentially a glorified beta.
...It already has. Yesterday was China rising. And it's caused issues with framerate stuttering that wasn't there before the client update for some people (including me) seemed to be fixed today but graphical glitches were there today instead.The first DLC will release on schedule, you can bet your life on that.
It's a mess. It really goes to show that DICE is overworked and EA needs to stop pushing them so hard.
BF shouldn't be a yearly/bi-yearly series that EA wants it to be. Just like Mirror's Edge/Rallysport Challenge/et. al. from DICE shouldn't be. DICE should be left to their own devices and "when it's done."
Giving them a hard date just hinders them, as this shows. If DICE didn't have to beat Call of Duty to the market and had March? I dunno... I think the game would've been better than it has been for the past month. Sure, it'd have the typical "DICE LAUNCH(TM)" issues but it wouldn't be a buggy mess that it is right now.
But who knows, come March maybe I'll be eating crow for saying that. But I haven't seen any of the other titles in the series crash to desktop/graphic glitches/server crashes/2XP boosts being ate due to crashes/etc. like BF4.
I think that could be said of just about any of EA's studios. EA seems to have a nasty little habit of kicking games out the door well before they're polished enough to be purchased, leaving early adopters as beta testers.It's a mess. It really goes to show that DICE is overworked and EA needs to stop pushing them so hard.
March is Titanfall month, EA probably wouldn't have wanted BF4 releasing anywhere near it. If it was going to be delayed, they would've pushed it to May/Summer....It already has. Yesterday was China rising. And it's caused issues with framerate stuttering that wasn't there before the client update for some people (including me) seemed to be fixed today but graphical glitches were there today instead.
It's a mess. It really goes to show that DICE is overworked and EA needs to stop pushing them so hard.
BF shouldn't be a yearly/bi-yearly series that EA wants it to be. Just like Mirror's Edge/Rallysport Challenge/et. al. from DICE shouldn't be. DICE should be left to their own devices and "when it's done."
Giving them a hard date just hinders them, as this shows. If DICE didn't have to beat Call of Duty to the market and had March? I dunno... I think the game would've been better than it has been for the past month. Sure, it'd have the typical "DICE LAUNCH(TM)" issues but it wouldn't be a buggy mess that it is right now.
But who knows, come March maybe I'll be eating crow for saying that. But I haven't seen any of the other titles in the series crash to desktop/graphic glitches/server crashes/2XP boosts being ate due to crashes/etc. like BF4.
Right, but EA is making DICE their middleware studio with Frostbite. EA Tiberon(?)'s middleware engine for ANT/animations was copped by DICE to put in Frostbite 2 (BF3) and 3 (BF4) for soldier animations/vaulting stuff that is also going to be used in Mirror's Edge 2 (with Frostbite 3 running that instead of Unreal Engine 3 that ME1 did).Originally Posted by Jibbajabbawockky
I think that could be said of just about any of EA's studios. EA seems to have a nasty little habit of kicking games out the door well before they're polished enough to be purchased, leaving early adopters as beta testers.
But anyway:
DICE is currently working on/pre-planning:
Star Wars: Battlefront 3
Battlefield 4
Battlefield 4's DLC
Mirror's Edge 2
While also having a team working on:
Frostbite Engine (BC1->BF4)
Frostbite Engine "licensing"/helping internal EA devs with Frostbite 3 (Bioware, Danger Close/"DICE LA," etc.)
Mantle "coding to the metal" API for PC through AMD...
It's a complete mess and why I say they're overworked: They're doing so many different projects that EA needs to just stop.
Let the Frostbite Engine team work on Mantle and middleware. That's okay, that doesn't impact their games.
What does impact their games is juggling two-to-five different titles in production.
Drop Battlefront, outside of Battlefront fans and extreme Star Wars fans, most people aren't going to be disappointed and EA can give that to another studio to farm out (much to some peoples dismay, I guess). DICE should focus on BF4's bug-fixes and DLC while working on Mirror's Edge 2 as a side-project. After that, if Battlefront 3 hasn't released, then worry about doing that.
(Then worry about doing BF5/BC3 because I'm sure people would be tired of BF4 2-3 years later and would be ready for a different Battlefield)
Honestly? I think Summer would've been a good month to do Battlefield 4. Give time for DICE to polish, put in more fan favorite maps instead of making them a DLC pipe-line rework ("Second Assault") that is currently exclusive to Microsoft's next-gen console, would've allowed bug-fixing/polish AND been a pretty clear season as far as game releases go in being able to launch without competition.March is Titanfall month, EA probably wouldn't have wanted BF4 releasing anywhere near it. If it was going to be delayed, they would've pushed it to May/Summer.
Back in 2009-2010, they were working on:
Battlefield 1943
Battlefield Heroes
Bad Company 2
Bad Company 2 DLC (Including Vietnam)
Battlefield Online
Helping Criterion with Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
Medal of Honor's Multiplayer
And no doubt that right after Battlefield 3 they were working on Battlefield 4 while also working on the Battlefield 3 expansions. They're a workhorse.
You know, it almost seems like they did it on purpose. Release crap and force people to buy your DLC to play the functioning product.
It's only available to Premium members, it isn't for non members until the 17th....It already has. Yesterday was China rising. And it's caused issues with framerate stuttering that wasn't there before the client update for some people (including me) seemed to be fixed today but graphical glitches were there today instead.
It's a mess. It really goes to show that DICE is overworked and EA needs to stop pushing them so hard.
BF shouldn't be a yearly/bi-yearly series that EA wants it to be. Just like Mirror's Edge/Rallysport Challenge/et. al. from DICE shouldn't be. DICE should be left to their own devices and "when it's done."
Giving them a hard date just hinders them, as this shows. If DICE didn't have to beat Call of Duty to the market and had March? I dunno... I think the game would've been better than it has been for the past month. Sure, it'd have the typical "DICE LAUNCH(TM)" issues but it wouldn't be a buggy mess that it is right now.
But who knows, come March maybe I'll be eating crow for saying that. But I haven't seen any of the other titles in the series crash to desktop/graphic glitches/server crashes/2XP boosts being ate due to crashes/etc. like BF4.
Always look on the bright side... and so on.Originally Posted by Overdoziz
I love that the game is broken because now I can get more exp for stuff that should've been unlocked from the start!
I would like to play more than two games in a row without having a disconnect/ ctd... and i would like to play a match without rubberbanding. Annoying bug.
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