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marc^o^
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(Yesterday, 09:49 PM)
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A media plebiscit certainly can't hurt.
Trent Strong
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(Yesterday, 09:51 PM)
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The gamepad is not a portable console.
Dysun
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(Yesterday, 09:53 PM)
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I see buying a console as a long term investment, and it's clear the Wii U's offerings will be limited. Starting now there will be next to nothing as far as third party support, and will be a defacto Nintendo-only box. That's not enough
Damaniel
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(Yesterday, 09:53 PM)
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The Wii U has a few things going for it, and it makes a decent second console if you have the money, but the eShop is not one of the good things about it. The eShop sucks, Nintendo's account system sucks -- actually, Nintendo does pretty poorly in general in regards to online (though Miiverse isn't all that bad).

The eShop comment (and the 'hi def enough'/'portable console' ones) are enough to make me question the authors of this list. Wii U does have a few really good games (and the promise of a few more), but Nintendo's online capabilities are merely to be tolerated, and are generally not worthy of high praise.
Speevy
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(Yesterday, 09:54 PM)
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Reasons to buy the PS4:

1) The controller is a flash light.
Tathanen
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(Yesterday, 09:54 PM)
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...guys, don't spend time typing up retorts to the list, retort the actual content of the article. Those are section headings, not points. As the eshop one has made clear, they don't necessarily have anything to do with the actual point being made. Right now you're arguing with nobody.
Fularu
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(Yesterday, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by SmokyDave

These short-sighted articles crack me up. Yeah, I'll buy a Wii U because it has more titles than two launch consoles and then I'll sit back and watch as everything I actually want to play appears on the machines I didn't buy. Sure.

You must know that feeling as a Vita owner :p
Kirosia
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(Yesterday, 09:56 PM)
And PS4/XB1's better games will likely depreciate must faster than Wii U's (if the Wii is any indication), so you'll probably save more in the long run even with the higher entry console cost.
Chindogg
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(Yesterday, 09:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by dmg04

Questions;

Don't you have to be within eyeshot of the Wii U console itself for the gamepad to actually work as a "portable" console? My definition of a Portable console would be something like the PSVita.

What exactly is the eShop? Is it anything like... I don't know, the XboxLiveMarketplace?

Are there any games on the Wii U that have realistic graphics? Crazy amounts of Particles? 64 players? MMO style gameplay?

How does the Wii U compare to the Xbox 1 in terms of "More than a console"?

Does the Wii U have gameplay recording programs built in? How about Social Media sharing?



It's somewhat obvious; I'm an Xbox fanboy. I've also been playing my friends PS4 since launch. He also owns a Wii U, and we haven't played more than the first SuperMario game that was bundled with the console. While I can agree that the price point is awesome with the Wii U, it just doesn't offer what I'm looking for.

1. Yeah a bit of hyperbole.
2. It's better than Xbone's current XBLM, but I'm sure that'll evolve over time.
3. Might not be what you're asking for, but there is Nano Assault Neo.
4. I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.
5. No recording, but Miiverse is arguably the best social media integration in any console right now.

It all depends on what you're shooting for, and if it isn't for you that's fine. But Wii U does offer some of what you ask. However you've already decided that gaming's a team sport and you have a home team, so what exactly were you shooting for with this post?

Originally Posted by Speevy

Luckily then consumers are responding. If the industry had to depend on Wii U versions of anything, I can see a lot of closed studios.

Studios and publishers are already closing left and right. It's not about the console, its about budgets being out of control.
Khalifa Jayy
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(Yesterday, 09:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nibel



Totilo had some fun in a similar way, too

Your definition of portable seems to differ greatly from the standard definition of portable.
atpbx
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(Yesterday, 09:57 PM)
The Wii U has no games I want to play, and no games in the pipeline I want to play.

The argument that software drives hardware is true, especially so in the case of the Wii U, it doesn't have anything what so ever that I wish to play.
megabytecr
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(Yesterday, 09:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vagabundo

lol @ the media's hard on for Wii U.

lol @ people angry about the media's hard on for Wii U.

8. Nintendo has the eShop. Sony and Microsoft have nada.
Actually reading the article. What is Nintendo waiting for to release the whole Wii and GC catalog digitally.
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ShinUltramanJ
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(Yesterday, 09:58 PM)
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Forget about panic mode Nintendo, I'm seeing panic mode Nintendo fans!

With Xbox One and PS4 breaking sales records, there's a huge attempt at getting word of mouth out there with Wii U. I see this piece even gave us the same familiar list of Wii U games everyone has to play.

I like the Wii U pad being a portable console. Whatever it takes when you're in panic mode I guess.
Interceptor
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(Yesterday, 09:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tripon

Ten reasons:
1. Because it has the games you want to play now. - Oh yes
2. And it’ll have the games you want to play next year. - It doesn´t have deep down, everything else - YES
3. The Wii U GamePad is a portable console. My Bed and Couch would like to agree
4. It’s just $300 — $100 less than the PS4 and $200 less than the Xbox One. - Yep
5. There’s no annual subscription fee. - Can´t believe there´s is no outrage on this, YES
6. Its High Def enough. - Bullshit point, he doesn´t even mention the 1080p stuff. (But he is right for my tv ^^)
7. Wii U games are cheaper on balance. - Yep
8. Nintendo has the eShop. Sony and Microsoft have nada. - People should read the article. He is absolutely right. The title is nonsens
9. It has a decent indie lineup, too. - Often forgotten, but yes. The best right now.
10. It’s more than just a game system. (TV, remote integration) - right, but well...
.

See above
Fularu
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(Yesterday, 10:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by boinx

I can't even buy any game from the eshop because my visa electron does not work there. I much prefer to buy all my wiiu games retail anyway.

Most of the content on there is available on other platforms better suited to my taste.

You can use eShop cards and you won't find any of the VC elsewhere (or Shin'en games for example).

The fact you're not buying stuff doesn't mean it isn't there and isn't magnitudes bigger than either the PS4's or the xbone's. And that's without counting Wiiware which has plenty of extremely good exclusives.
Chindogg
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(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShinUltramanJ

Forget about panic mode Nintendo, I'm seeing panic mode Nintendo fans!

With Xbox One and PS4 breaking sales records, there's a huge attempt at getting word of mouth out there with Wii U. I see this piece even gave us the same familiar list of Wii U games everyone has to play.

I like the Wii U pad being a portable console. Whatever it takes when you're in panic mode I guess.

I didn't know Time Magazine had such a hard on for Nintendo.
Sendou
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(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShinUltramanJ

Forget about panic mode Nintendo, I'm seeing panic mode Nintendo fans!

With Xbox One and PS4 breaking sales records, there's a huge attempt at getting word of mouth out there with Wii U. I see this piece even gave us the same familiar list of Wii U games everyone has to play.

I like the Wii U pad being a portable console. Whatever it takes when you're in panic mode I guess.

Is this Time writer some known Nintendo fanboy or am I missing something here..?
Zeeman
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(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chindogg

I didn't know Time Magazine had such a hard on for Nintendo.

Little known fact: Time was originally a spin-off of Nintendo Power
Papercuts
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(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tathanen

...guys, don't spend time typing up retorts to the list, retort the actual content of the article. Those are section headings, not points. As the eshop one has made clear, they don't necessarily have anything to do with the actual point being made. Right now you're arguing with nobody.

Makes for a good look at who actually reads content in the OP. Sadly very few.

I mean, it is a very idiotic and misleading point title, but still.
shagg_187
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(Yesterday, 10:02 PM)
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Reason 1:

You may eventually get Metroid.
Hinzel
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(Yesterday, 10:06 PM)
the eshop superiority comment is the strangest, with no account system the eshop is currently the worst option out of XBLM or the PS store....
ShinUltramanJ
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(Yesterday, 10:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chindogg

I didn't know Time Magazine had such a hard on for Nintendo.

Time magazine? He's a contributor doing an opinion piece. Nintendo fans grow up and get real jobs to y'know?

C'mon, you can't tell me there's not this sudden new movement in media to rescue Nintendo's failing console.
Tripon
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(Yesterday, 10:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShinUltramanJ

Time magazine? He's a contributor doing an opinion piece. Nintendo fans grow up and get real jobs to y'know?

C'mon, you can't tell me there's not this sudden new movement in media to rescue Nintendo's failing console.

He's a full time employee of TIME.

Matt Peckham @mattpeckham

Matt Peckham is TIME's video games, science tech and music tech correspondent based in Ann Arbor, Michigan. His work has appeared in Variety, The Washington Post, The New York Times and others.

Vampirolol
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(Yesterday, 10:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. X

There's 101 reasons to pick up the WiiU

High five!
AdrianWerner
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(Yesterday, 10:11 PM)
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But it doesn't really have games I want :]
kazebyaka
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(Yesterday, 10:11 PM)
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2. And it’ll have the games you want to play next year.

I don't see any
faridmon
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(Yesterday, 10:14 PM)
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Its High Def enough

Lol
Wynnebeck
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(Yesterday, 10:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShinUltramanJ

Time magazine? He's a contributor doing an opinion piece. Nintendo fans grow up and get real jobs to y'know?

C'mon, you can't tell me there's not this sudden new movement in media to rescue Nintendo's failing console.

I didn't know this, but when I went to the mall the other day, there was a huge Nintendo area setup full of Wii Us and 3DSs all set up with the latest games. I played 3D World, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, the new Zelda, etc. What made it kind of sad was the way the Nintendo reps (most of the people were volunteers) were almost manic in their attempts to sell you on a Wii U. One rep was literally staring at me when I was playing W101 and when I turned to look at him, he had this weird kind of grin like he wanted me to feel the same magic. While 101 was awesome (gonna be the first game I get when I get a Wii U down the line), I just couldn't get myself excited for the games. At least I got to see some cute girls in 3D World cat ears and got some 3D World stickers for my time.
boinx
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(Yesterday, 10:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fularu

You can use eShop cards and you won't find any of the VC elsewhere (or Shin'en games for example).

The fact you're not buying stuff doesn't mean it isn't there and isn't magnitudes bigger than either the PS4's or the xbone's. And that's without counting Wiiware which has plenty of extremely good exclusives.

I can't even easily get eshop cards here. The only store that sells them in my country is Gamestop and there aren't even many of them around here. And fuck gamestop. Then that whole ordeal kinda defeats the purpose of conveniently buying digital games which i can do on any other platform i have with ease.

Also i did not intend to make it sound like a fact that the eshop lacks content. Was only my opinion bro.

And for me emulating the games available on VC with PC is just a way more easy and effortless option for me. The eShop has just been a really irritating experience for me.
Pryce
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(Yesterday, 10:18 PM)
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6. Its High Def enough.

lol.
mckmas8808
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(Yesterday, 10:21 PM)
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This is a horrible article! Terrible even. How does it have the games that I want in the future when it's clearly known that the Wii U isn't getting a lot of 3rd party support?
Jamix012
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(Yesterday, 10:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by boinx

And for me emulating the games available on VC with PC is just a way more easy and effortless option for me. The eShop has just been a really irritating experience for me.

How so? It's only less effort if you do it illegally.
Yawnier
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(Yesterday, 10:22 PM)
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Half of those ten reasons aren't even that enticing or convincing.
spliced
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(Yesterday, 10:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tripon

Ten reasons:
1. Because it has the games you want to play now.
2. And it’ll have the games you want to play next year.
3. The Wii U GamePad is a portable console.
4. It’s just $300 — $100 less than the PS4 and $200 less than the Xbox One.
5. There’s no annual subscription fee.
6. Its High Def enough.
7. Wii U games are cheaper on balance.
8. Nintendo has the eShop. Sony and Microsoft have nada.
9. It has a decent indie lineup, too.
10. It’s more than just a game system. (TV, remote integration)

Nintendo needs to work on:

1. Like dropping the system price again.
2. And it needs a killer Zelda or Metroid or new Nintendo IP we haven’t seen before, ASAP.
3. And it needs more third-party games.

He's right, if you're talking right now today the Wii U lineup is superior to PS4 and Xbox 1 lineups combined.

1. Well some of them, but the other games I want to play aren't on PS4 and Xbox 1.
2. Yup.
3. Not quite but he's bang on about the larger size and ergonomics smoking the Vita.
4. $300 for the general public, $250 for a gamer that keeps his eyes open.
5. I think Miiverse is more of a highlight than this.
6. True. With the Wii U being high def it compares much better graphically to the competition than the standard def Wii did.
7. Not sure if this will hold up over time but for now it's correct.
8. I don't know about this one. Needs work still imo.
9. Not really my thing.
10. Browsing on the Gamepad is excellent. I like it more than an Ipad in some ways, the accuracy of the stylus is fantastic.
distantmantra
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(Yesterday, 10:24 PM)
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I don't feel the need to buy a new system for the forseeable future. My PS3 is still great and there are tons of games coming out for it throughout 2014 that actually interest me.
JoeTheBlow
Fighting the good fight against the rules of mathematics.
(Yesterday, 10:25 PM)
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After all this months positive "press" I can't wait to see the huge sales spike in the NPD's.
JordanN
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(Yesterday, 10:25 PM)
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Assuming you’re not a mindless, slavering graphics wonk, you’d probably agree that artful games trump visually muscular ones, bar none.

This is so dumb. Nintendo didn't invent art. Yet why is the question Zelda against space shooter? Every console has some form of variety and the PS4/XBO will have games that are both artful and technically ambitious.


Originally Posted by Pryce

lol.

"I'm returning my PS4 today. Because it offers me too many pixels."
Interceptor
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(Yesterday, 10:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by boinx

I can't even easily get eshop cards here. The only store that sells them in my country is Gamestop and there aren't even many of them around here. And fuck gamestop. Then that whole ordeal kinda defeats the purpose of conveniently buying digital games which i can do on any other platform i have with ease.

Also i did not intend to make it sound like a fact that the eshop lacks content. Was only my opinion bro.

And for me emulating the games available on VC with PC is just a way more easy and effortless option for me. The eShop has just been a really irritating experience for me.


http://www.mspoints.de/nintendo-eshop-card-c-54.html
Works just fine with paypal. You get them via email.

I won´t even comment the piracy stuff.
Tripon
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(Yesterday, 10:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by JordanN

"I'm returning my PS4 today. Because it offers me too many pixels."

Wait, you're great at Pixel counting too!?
Acquiescence
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(Yesterday, 10:26 PM)
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I can give them one reason that trumps their ten - it doesn't have any exclusives appealing enough to justify me buying one.
RaikuHebi
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(Yesterday, 10:27 PM)
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1. Because it has the games you want to play now.
2. And it’ll have the games you want to play next year.
3. The Wii U GamePad is a portable console.
4. It’s just $300 — $100 less than the PS4 and $200 less than the Xbox One.
5. There’s no annual subscription fee.
6. Its High Def enough.
7. Wii U games are cheaper on balance.
8. Nintendo has the eShop. Sony and Microsoft have nada.
9. It has a decent indie lineup, too.
10. It’s more than just a game system. (TV, remote integration)


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ShinUltramanJ
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(Yesterday, 10:28 PM)
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I saw the big Wii U event at my local mall. I would've checked it out if they had DK or Mariokart, but it was all stuff I have or in the case of Mario, want to stay in the dark until Christmas.

Wii U is a great system, and it has great games. It's just this sudden surge in Nintendo fans feeling the need to keep telling everyone about Wii U and how it has more games than two systems that just released. "Nintendo thumpers" beating us over the head with the same list of exclusives and that magical feeling. Enough already. If I see one more story of someone hugging their U I'm going to vomit lol
Audible Phonetics
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(Yesterday, 10:29 PM)
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Hi Def Enough??

Xilium
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(Yesterday, 10:30 PM)
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Well at the very least, Nintendo seems to have the press on their side (both enthusiast and mainstream). Whether or not the casual audience agrees has yet to be seen. All but the most faithful Nintendo fans in the core gaming demographic seem to have written the console off though.
Corronchilejano
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(Yesterday, 10:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Acquiescence

I can give them one reason that trumps their ten - it doesn't have any exclusives appealing enough to me to justify me buying one.

FTFY.

It is pretty much the reason the PS4 isn't looking that well for me though.
Damaniel
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(Yesterday, 10:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by mckmas8808

This is a horrible article! Terrible even. How does it have the games that I want in the future when it's clearly known that the Wii U isn't getting a lot of 3rd party support?

Because everybody wants Nintendo games and only Nintendo games; third party games are superfluous and completely unnecessary if you've got Mario. /s

The Wii U has exactly one future game that I'd be willing to buy the system for (if I didn't already have one) - X, and I'm not sure that X has even been officially announced for the US, so we may not even get it in the end. Mario Kart will be worth playing, but not (by itself) worth buying a Wii U for.

Lack of third party support hurts. Nintendo makes a fine secondary console, but if you're relying on the Wii U as your only source of gaming, you're going to be disappointed for most of the upcoming year.
Gonzo The Great
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(Yesterday, 10:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Xilium

Well at the very least, Nintendo seems to have the press on their side (both enthusiast and mainstream). Whether or not the casual audience agrees has yet to be seen. All but the most faithful Nintendo fans in the core gaming demographic seem to have written the console off though.

It's really fascinating how some people on GAF have been trashing pretty much every gaming website or mainstream news outlet that dares to send praise in Nintendo's direction. So much so that there are now conspiracy theories claiming that the press have collectively decided to save Nintendo's image. Yeah, the PS4 and Xbox One will probably have much better software libraries a few years from now, but the blatant fanboyism is just too much for me.
Glass Joe
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(Yesterday, 10:35 PM)
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Wow, don't anyone go and actually read the article now. Just refute the headings without even caring where the author's coming from with them.
Acquiescence
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(Yesterday, 10:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Corronchilejano

FTFY.

It is pretty much the reason the PS4 isn't looking that well for me though.

You didn't need to fix anything, I already stated it was personal preference when I wrote "to justify me buying one."
HalfwayOrb
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wtf at the article, so many wrongs.

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