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Originally Posted by Fularu

There's more content on the eShop than on either stores and that's not changing any time soon.

I've downloaded Resogun from the PS Store and contrast

I can't list all my eShop purchases but there's about 30 of them

I know just for the sake of fairness lets compare the shops when both the ps4 and xb1 have been out for 12 months, because as it stands its a really bias bit of journalistic fluff which isn't even comparing apples and apples...

What if we compare the state of the Wii u from 12 months ago for a more balanced assessment?

I'm pleased to see all these positive Wii U articles. It is an incredibly under-rated system.

theres actual real reasons for someone to buy a wiiu

this actual doesn't have them

I love my Wii U, but I don't agree on the portable console thing because you need to be near the console, even if FUCK YES OFF-TV play is amazing. I've played so much games on my bed as of late thanks to it.


The reasons that matter are games, games, and games. If you're a Nintendo fan, it's a no brainer.

At this point you can basically list all the great reasons to buy a WiiU until you're blue in the face, the fact of the matter is that most don't seem to care.

Originally Posted by Tripon

6. Its High Def enough.
8. Nintendo has the eShop. Sony and Microsoft have nada.

Originally Posted by TIME

6. Its High Def enough.
8. Nintendo has the eShop. Sony and Microsoft have nada.

I'd pick the Wii U over the Xbone and PS4, at this point in their lives. I'd pick the PS3 over any of the three at this point of their lives.

10 reasons to get a WiiU over ps4 and xbone in one reason:

- Impulse buy

Some good points and some silly ones (the eshop is rubbish).

Though Nintendo probably should advertise more the fact that they are the only next gen console without a pay wall. I know a few PS3 owners who aren't upgrading to PS4 because of it.

Originally Posted by khaaan

At this point you can basically list all the great reasons to buy a WiiU until you're blue in the face, the fact of the matter is that most don't seem to care.

You're dead on!

If Nintendo would just spice things up a bit with their Virtual Console releases, instead of slow dripping whats already been out, things might improve. Stop sitting on GBA & GC games release them already. This would at least fill in the blanks between major releases. Hell, you have 2 screens, release some updated DS games. Pay Capcom to release an HD Ghost Trick.

Nintendo should have a two pronged marketing attack. They obviously have everything hinging on the family demographic, but i feel as though they are not considering the nostalgic, 20-35 demographic, a viable option. These are the gamers who grew up playing multiplayer games together, as opposed to just online. You need to remind them of how much fun it was then and how much fun it is now. hopefully the Wii didn't leave to bad a taste in there mouth.

They should do this by introducing late night ads, showing friends having a few beers, hinting at other things (be fucking edgy nintendo), while playing super mario world, while flashing back to kids playing super mario land on the snes. Focus on 'Nintendo' rather than 'Wii U' to some degree.

"Nintendo Nostalgia, only on Wii U"

No one reads magazines anymore.

Originally Posted by burst

They should do this by introducing late night ads, showing friends having a few beers, hinting at other things

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liy-hy5RPYw

Originally Posted by jwk94

This article is a joke, right?

It has to be ;)

Originally Posted by Devilgunman

I shouldn't listen to you and click the article. His reasoning doesn't make your list less laughable. Also, why is you list No.8 as eShop? What he actually said was WiiU has backward copatibility and Virtual console. PS4 and Bone has none.*

*right now.

not having the option to snap off and step away from the TV feels regressive and even prohibitive at this point.

Amen. I can't play PS3 for more than 45 minutes at a time these days...

Originally Posted by Pancakes R Us

I'm getting a little suspicious about all these pro Nintendo pieces lately. There just seems to have been a deluge of them lately. PR team must be on it for Christmas.

Maybe that's part of it, but mostly I think writers just love to be contrarian.

An endorsement of one of two popular sides in an argument is all well and good, but rising above the argument to give a seemingly unique opinion that applies to neither side will more easily keep the illusion of you being on another level than sheep that blindly follow the popular two sides. Without that illusion you're kind of screwed as a professional writer.

Look at Sessler, who tries so hard to rise above the console wars that he ends up sounding more ridiculous than the console warriors.

Originally Posted by Origami Superman

Some good points and some silly ones (the eshop is rubbish).

Though Nintendo probably should advertise more the fact that they are the only next gen console without a pay wall. I know a few PS3 owners who aren't upgrading to PS4 because of it.

Offering old classics is rubbish now? Then again, it's probably very true for teenagers. It wouldn't be cool to choose 16 bit games over photorealistic FPS titles.

Originally Posted by sakipon

Offering old classics is rubbish now? Then again, it's probably very true for teenagers. It wouldn't be cool to choose 16 bit games over photorealistic FPS titles.

Except their classics selection is completely fucking atrocious. Two goddamn platforms and a much higher ratio of garbage than classics. And ridiculous pricing to top it all off!

Originally Posted by burst

Nintendo should have a two pronged marketing attack. They obviously have everything hinging on the family demographic, but i feel as though they are not considering the nostalgic, 20-35 demographic, a viable option. These are the gamers who grew up playing multiplayer games together, as opposed to just online. You need to remind them of how much fun it was then and how much fun it is now. hopefully the Wii didn't leave to bad a taste in there mouth.

They should do this by introducing late night ads, showing friends having a few beers, hinting at other things (be fucking edgy nintendo), while playing super mario world, while flashing back to kids playing super mario land on the snes. Focus on 'Nintendo' rather than 'Wii U' to some degree.

"Nintendo Nostalgia, only on Wii U"

I like how Sony tapped into that nostalgia, and it's kind of surprising Nintendo never did anything similar.

If you're doing a commercial with some guys drinking beers and playing a game getting that nostalgic trip it sure as he'll isn't going to be over Mario. No, Goldeneye would be the game that these guys were playing back in the day together, and sadly it's a genre Nintendo won't touch with a ten foot pole.

Huh. Looks like a bunch of these replies are from people who haven't even read the article and are just responding to the subtitles. And a bunch of these posts remind me of the armchair analysts during the "3DS is dead" days.

I love my PS4, but it's not getting much use right now, and that's ok because I know I'll be playing it much more next year with a better 2014 lineup. Right now it's the Wii U that's been occupying my time, especially with 3DWorld (plus 101, Pikmin 3 and Mon Hun). And during the holidays, it's going to be a blast at my house with my family playing multiplayer 3DWorld and Nintendoland.

Originally Posted by Primedoughnut

I know just for the sake of fairness lets compare the shops when both the ps4 and xb1 have been out for 12 months, because as it stands its a really bias bit of journalistic fluff which isn't even comparing apples and apples...

What if we compare the state of the Wii u from 12 months ago for a more balanced assessment?

When the wiiu came out there was at least 15 games available for it. Granted some were year old ports but there still were at least 15 titles available for it.

I really don't agree with all the points but it's the writers opinion. WiiU is floundering for a reason and it's not because people have anything against Nintendo.

The eShop? I stopped right there. I understand what they are trying to say but to be completely honest... The Wii U eShop doesn't even have the best games, especially the rare ones, the prices are ridiculous and they are mostly games that everyone has ready played on their Wii. Let's not get started on how your eShop purchases are stuck on your console, not your account. Shit article is shit article.

Originally Posted by Primedoughnut

I know just for the sake of fairness lets compare the shops when both the ps4 and xb1 have been out for 12 months, because as it stands its a really bias bit of journalistic fluff which isn't even comparing apples and apples...

What if we compare the state of the Wii u from 12 months ago for a more balanced assessment?

How is that worthwhile at all? Why does it matter what the state of the platform was a year ago when the question is which one is immediately attractive right now? It's flagrantly obvious how much you want to paint the ps4 in a more positive light by bringing up worthless comparisons

And even then, the wiiu launch was roughly on par with the ps4 launch - enjoyable but hardly stellar. Perhaps even better for some since i don't think ps4 has anything remotely as interesting as zombiu last year, but of course ymwv.

Originally Posted by Manmademan

If you already have a PS3, then the WiiU is actually a poor investment.

The PS3 has a vastly superior online system and infrastructure for multiplayer, and it's free.
The PS3 has a wider variety of games, for less money
The PS3 has far more third party support
The PS3 is looking like it will actually be on the market longer, which is hilarious
The PS3 includes PS+, which throws an absolutely monstrous amount of games at you for $50 a year, and heavily discounts even more of them.
The PS3 still has better looking exclusive games a year in to the WiiU launch, and it doesn't look like this is going to change anytime in the near future.

The only advantage the WiiU has over it would be nintendo exclusives. If you absoutely HAVE to play those, then by all means, get a wiiU. but outside of that, buying $300 worth of PS3 games instead, or two years of plus and $200 worth of PS3 games is a better buy than a WiiU.

But it doesn't have Mario :( Too bad, so sad.

3. The Wii U GamePad is a portable console.

I think by portable he's referring to how you can go off screen play

10. It’s more than just a game system. (TV, remote integration)

Not if you live in Europe and TV remote integration is nice but not a system seller.

Nintendo needs to work on:

1. Like dropping the system price again.
2. And it needs a killer Zelda or Metroid or new Nintendo IP we haven’t seen before, ASAP.
3. And it needs more third-party games.

1. They are already selling the Wii U at a lost, they can't go any lower.
2. God is this guy an idiot as he already mention two new Nintendo IP, The Wonderful 101 and X. Also Metroid isn't a system seller at all.
3. Won't happen because third party are in a catch 22 situation, unless Nintendo money hats some games.

Originally Posted by Shtof

5. There’s no annual subscription fee.

#5. Good point. But there's also no account system for digital content.

Why do people keep say that there is no account system? When the Wii U has one, just that it's tied to the system itself, something that I have full faith that Nintendo will fixed eventually.

I only agree with number 1. The rest is nonsense.

Nintendo's plan B in full effect i see

still, if it brings more sales, I'm all up for it

Next year at this time will be very interesting.

The whole point of a year start is to have more games then launch titles of the competition. If you can't do that then you aren't worthy of being a competitor. But just look at the landscape going forward, an avalanche is coming.

Originally Posted by JinjoUnchained

+1 for the awesome South Park reference in your user name. I got Shoe!

-2 for your petty, asinine post. It's clear by now that PS4/XOne Vs Wii U will both have games, just different kind of games. If you only care about FPS, sports games, and the latest cinematic action game then, yeah, PS4/XOne will have "more games". But most people have broader tastes.

I was never claiming the Wii U doesn't have games. It's just inevitable that the Wii U is going to have periods of long droughts where there's nothing worth buying, and you're going to hear people bitching about it when it happens. It happened with the GameCube, it happened with the Wii, and it is no doubt going to happen with the Wii U and it's because of the terrible third party support. Tell me where I'm being unreasonable.

Downplay the fact that the PS4 and Xbox One are going to have more games all you want, but implying that the Wii U appeals to people with broader tastes is probably one of the most disingenuous things I've read on this board. The Wii U doesn't appeal to people with broad tastes, it appeals to no-one but Nintendo fans. Even with the over saturation of shooters on the market, the PS4 and Xbox One will still end up with a much more diverse library than the Wii U will ever have.

You say most people have broader tastes than that, but they don't. The genres you listed still dominate the sales charts, so I'm not really sure what point you thought you were making. Regardless, your post is more asinine than anything I could ever come up with.

Originally Posted by megabytecr

lol @ people angry about the media's hard on for Wii U.

Lol @ people reading more into someone's comment than is there. I'm am stoked to be getting one this Christmas and quite happy with positive press. I think they system is grossly underrated.

But lol@ the media's sudden hard on for the Wii U.

Watch the hits rain in from confused gamers.

Rake the clicks in with inflammatory articles.

You're a video game website now, Time magazine!

Originally Posted by ComputerMKII

There are no PC gamers among the staff of Time?

Is that a Zelda Weapon?

Originally Posted by Tripon

8. Nintendo has the eShop. Sony and Microsoft have nada.

What is this misleading crap? This is what it says in the article:

Nintendo has the Virtual Console and Wii backward-compatiblity. Sony and Microsoft have nada.

It can be considered a more or less valid point.

Also: People here need to learn to read the article and not just the OP. But I guess most people just want to be on the first page.

Originally Posted by Manmademan

If you already have a PS3, then the WiiU is actually a poor investment.

The PS3 has a vastly superior online system and infrastructure for multiplayer, and it's free. - no miiverse. Not vastly superior
The PS3 has a wider variety of games, for less money - played them already on the 360
The PS3 has far more third party support - had
The PS3 is looking like it will actually be on the market longer, which is hilarious -no
The PS3 includes PS+, which throws an absolutely monstrous amount of games at you for $50 a year, and heavily discounts even more of them. - games for money. revolution.
The PS3 still has better looking exclusive games a year in to the WiiU launch, and it doesn't look like this is going to change anytime in the near future. - No

The only advantage the WiiU has over it would be nintendo exclusives. If you absoutely HAVE to play those, then by all means,.

Thats a pretty big "only"

you can't play ze witcher 3 on Wii U.


Honestly though I'd love to get a Wii U ,but I won't due to monetary limitations.

First point is already a lie, no need to further discuss the list. Stay with an original Wii or a 3DS and you miss out nothing on the WiiU except for Wonderful101 and it's clear that people can live without that game.

Ten reasons:
1. Because it has the games you want to play now.
2. And it’ll have the games you want to play next year.
3. The Wii U GamePad is a portable console.
4. It’s just $300 — $100 less than the PS4 and $200 less than the Xbox One.
5. There’s no annual subscription fee.
6. Its High Def enough.
7. Wii U games are cheaper on balance.
8. Nintendo has the eShop. Sony and Microsoft have nada.
9. It has a decent indie lineup, too.
10. It’s more than just a game system. (TV, remote integration)

1. Except 3DWorld there is nothing... the other consoles offer more.
2. MarioKart and Smash... But I don't want to miss out on stuff like Destiny, Infamous, TheOrder, TheCrew, Thief, Witcher3, DriveClub, Rime and much, much more.
3. Wut? No.
4. Yeah. It also has last gen graphics and no 3rd party support.
5. Because there is no worthwhile multiplayer.
6. o.O
7. No.
8. PlaystationStore and XBLA
9. By far not as good as Sonys indie lineup.
10. That can be said of every game system.


MY reasons not to buy a WiiU:
1. I would only use it for Nintendo exclusives.
2. Its too expensive to buy it only for Nintendo exclusives.

Maybe next year when games like MK8, DonkeyKong, X, Smash and more are out and the price is at about 149€.

Originally Posted by HeelPower

you can't play ze witcher 3 on Wii U.


Honestly though I'd love to get a Wii U ,but I won't due to monetary limitations.

True. :( Once it releases i have to make the hard decision between upgrading my pc or the purchase of one of the new twins. It will be a hard battle between my Steam backlog and the exclusives for these systems at this point. So far the consoles have deep down.. but beating steam is a really hard task.

Ten reasons why you should buy a PS3 this year:
1. Because it has the games you want to play now(TLOU, GTA5 plus everything since 2007).
2. And it’ll have the games you want to play next year(Destiny,Watchdogs,etc).
3. Vita is a portable console.
4. It’s just $150 — $150 less than the WiiU.
5. There’s no annual subscription fee.
6. Its High Def enough. (If you sit far away)
7. PS3 games are cheaper on balance(You can get some old hits for $5 now).
8. Sony has shared account system for all their platforms. Never lose your games with console.
9. It has a decent indie lineup, too.
10. It’s more than just a game system. (It only does everything)