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It didn't really make a GAF thread, but NSA has access to private medical records of many citizens of foreign countries as well, including a Canadian woman who was denied entry to the US because she suffered depression.

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Originally Posted by Guy.brush

This stuff is only the very, very harmless beginning but the ugliness of collecting and unifying all those databases without oversight is already visible:

Government manipulates no-fly list to have witness in anti-government trial not be present in court:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...estimony.shtml

Woman denied entry to US by DHS citing private medical details.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013...l_details.html

ah missed this post. Exactly what I'm talking about.

You are being watched.

America in reality is far from the values we are based upon.

I feel so betrayed, it's sad how broken the system has become.

Originally Posted by Chariot

You are being watched.

hawt

Originally Posted by You Are Viewtiful

It didn't really make a GAF thread, but NSA has access to private medical records of many citizens of foreign countries as well, including a Canadian woman who was denied entry to the US because she suffered depression.

That's egregious. The woman was hospitalized for depression (no police involvement), and the U.S. immigration and Nationality Act was cited under a section which can enable the US to refuse entry to anyone with physical or mental disorders, under the rationalisation that they may be a "threat."

Were you prescribed some sleep meds after a parent died? That could have you turned away at the border.

So yes, you have nothing to hide. Wake up sheeple.

Originally Posted by stolin

damn they're good.

This just in, NSA not only tracking terrorists but everyone in the entire world using cellphones. Can it get any better?!? To think only 1% of the Snowden information has been leaked. I think Snowden has done one of the greatest human acts of all time.

Originally Posted by NotBacon

Eh I don't give a shit, I'm just some Joe out of 5 BILLION other Joes and I have nothing to hide. They can track what I do as much as they want, but that's not going to change the fact that this doesn't affect me in the slightest.

I'm not doing anything wrong so I have nothing to worry about. Doesn't affect me. The government has no right to monitor people like this and it's a step toward the dystopias we read about and watch in books and movies. People who shrug and say what you're saying are a part of why it's happening. NO ONE should be OK with this. No one. Everyone should be taking a stand against it. But hey, if you're OK with your civil liberties being eroded. I just hope you wake up before it's too late. smh

Originally Posted by EuropeOG

The Antonio Banderas one is funny. This one is trying too hard.

but national security
but the terrorisms

When the world inevitably becomes 1984 go ahead and send your thought police agents after me, NSA. I'd sooner die than let the government think for me.

DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER

It's sort of sad that things are so hopeless for people that they'll just shrug this off and think, "who cares? I'll never be anybody important enough for them to care about, so they can do whatever they want. no skin off my back."

it's such a nihilistic yet selfish attitude, truly breathtaking.

Originally Posted by timetokill

It's sort of sad that things are so hopeless for people that they'll just shrug this off and think, "who cares? I'll never be anybody important enough for them to care about, so they can do whatever they want. no skin off my back."

it's such a nihilistic yet selfish attitude, truly breathtaking.

Challenge every single one of those people to post their real names on the internet.

Originally Posted by Crayons

When the world inevitably becomes 1984 go ahead and send your thought police agents after me, NSA. I'd sooner die than let the government think for me.



DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER

...is this post completely without irony?

Originally Posted by The Technomancer

...is this post completely without irony?

Yes. People are too busy caring about Miley Cyrus twerking to care about their rights being taken away.

We all do self-censoring to a certain degree, but now we got the confirmation that getting banned from GAF isn't the only reason we should do.

Originally Posted by Speedy Blue Dude

Just locations? Ehh... I live in Provo, Utah. Whatever, come at me NSA. No biggie if they know where I go everyday and what route I take to get there, or where I currently am. Or at least I don't see a big deal with them knowing my where-about. :P

Dammit speedy lol, this is not a good thing. It's all about an increasingly larger net in which ordinary Americans are losing any semblance of privacy they had left. Not only are phone calls and email conversations monitored, but now they're tracking your location, where you go, when, etc. It's all overreach.

I wish America wasn't so scared of its own shadow, then maybe they wouldn't feel the need to spy on the entire world.

This is why I consider myself a porn curator rather than a porn consumer.

Originally Posted by Chariot

You are being watched.

Originally Posted by SneakyStephan

I wish America wasn't so scared of its own shadow, then maybe they wouldn't feel the need to spy on the entire world.

Security might the impetus.

But I'll bet the real engine driving this is a healthy amount of geekery "look who I can track" amplied by the power potential attainable with such technology.

I think we'd all be tempted to spy on the digital activities of the whole world if we were given the opportunity.

Originally Posted by SneakyStephan

I wish America wasn't so scared of its own shadow, then maybe they wouldn't feel the need to spy on the entire world.

I'm always baffled how little Americans (if GAF is any indication) seem to care about privacy. It's not just a question of whether they're scared, there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of privacy.

It's even worse how until Snowden this was coupled with a "They wouldn't do that, why would they collect that data, what could they possibly do with it?" attitude.

I'm curious to know how much the American people can take before they revolt. Their government clearly doesn't respect them.

*puts on Anarchist hat*

The people shouldn't fear the government. The government should fear the people.

This isn't really new. Phone companies have been tracking this data for years, and they sell it on. It's anonymised, obviously, but I've seen footfall maps that show, for example, where people travelled from for a big sporting event.

Here's a news article about this very thing from over a year ago:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19882647

Originally Posted by ElTopo

I'm always baffled how little Americans (if GAF is any indication) seem to care about privacy. It's not just a question of whether they're scared, there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of privacy.

It's even worse how until Snowden this was coupled with a "They wouldn't do that, why would they collect that data, what could they possibly do with it?" attitude.

What the people think isn't even that important, but the politicians give even less of a shit...

Originally Posted by Speedy Blue Dude

I don't see the issue... What's the harm in them knowing where I am? Not like the government is going to come check up on my location daily or something. Knowing this info or staying ignorant to the fact, my life has not changed in the slightest.

Going from the stuff you say about the xbone to this, at least youre consistent.

Originally Posted by Hoya Destroyer

This Snowden prick again? He's caused some headaches for Australia too.
Im sure those lovely folks in Russia and China love him though >:(

ಠ_ಠ

Originally Posted by SneakyStephan

I wish America wasn't so scared of its own shadow, then maybe they wouldn't feel the need to spy on the entire world.

That's a naive statement. As if it's only America. Why just yesterday, RCMP arrested a Canadian citizen in Toronto of Chinese descent for spying and passing information to China. Let's not forget the spies that were caught from Russia in the US a few years back.

It's just tougher for the US to spy the old fashioned way and so they do it in the modern 21st century way, by tapping phones, intercepting emails, using GPS to track movements.

Believe me, France, UK and Germany are doing the same in Europe, Israel is doing the same in the middle east, India does the same. China and Russia routinely do the same as well. The only problem is, they usually assassinate or take out defectors who share these secrets, or it goes unnoticed because who cares about them.

Another problem is, a lot of US intelligence is classified. We don't know how many attacks were stopped because of intelligence gathering, what they've learned etc. People should actually read about how many attempted terrorist attacks have been prevented on US soil in the past decade after 9/11.

Don't want to sound like I support this, because I don't, but I can clearly see why these measure enjoy support from both republicans and Democrats.

Originally Posted by Speedy Blue Dude

Just locations? Ehh... I live in Provo, Utah. Whatever, come at me NSA. No biggie if they know where I go everyday and what route I take to get there, or where I currently am. Or at least I don't see a big deal with them knowing my where-about. :P

What's your real first and last name?

I'm not worried since I'm a white male, have no contacts with any minority groups and I am also not going against the grain politically speaking.

Maybe you people have something to hide?

Please continue buying affordable products made in foreign countries. Latest video games, television sets, pornography and social media all at your finger tips for a pittance. This is the pinnacle of humanity, it's all going to be downhill from here so stop trying to cause a pointless ruckus.

Keep up the good work NSA, I must be protected. /salute

Originally Posted by ICKE

I'm not worried since I'm a white male, have no contacts with any minority groups and I am also not going against the grain politically speaking.

Maybe you people have something to hide?

Please continue buying affordable products made in foreign countries. Latest video games, television sets, pornography and social media all at your finger tips for a pittance. This is the pinnacle of humanity, it's all going to be downhill from here so stop trying to cause a pointless ruckus.

Keep up the good work NSA, I must be protected. /salute

My sarcasm detector was beating heavily while reading that, but it isn't 100% accurate.

There are lizard people involved here somewhere.

Soon GW will begin censoring the Internet. Without you knowing it.

Originally Posted by Hermii

My sarcasm detector was beating heavily while reading that, but it isn't 100% accurate.

Right now the amount of disorderly people in our society is growing and they might become inconvenient to our daily routine. That's why I fully support increasing the defense budget and appropriations to local police so we can put birds in the sky, boots on the ground and eyes inside the web.

Are you not a concerned citizen? Are you part of the team?

Originally Posted by Marleyman

Nice; I second this. Fuck you, NSA.

I third this. Fuck you NSA!

Originally Posted by ICKE

Right now the amount of disorderly people in our society is growing and they might become inconvenient to our daily routine. That's why I fully support increasing the defense budget and appropriations to local police so we can put birds in the sky, boots on the ground and eyes inside the web.

Are you not a concerned citizen? Are you part of the team?

Where do I sign up?

Originally Posted by Elfforkusu

Best guess? Building a huge database so their agents can figure out what to do with this information.

Easier to scoop up lots of data than make sense of it. On the plus side, while they're no closer to stopping the terrorists in advance, they can probably produce the world's only definitive list of Americans with an addiction to donkey porn.

Your best guess is explicitly what the NSA argues it should be authorized to do, likening it to a "lockbox" that the nation (read: NSA) can root through in times of emergency (read: now and forever, given a conveniently indefinite war on extremism). Thus far they've been allowed to do that, and only in recent times in the wake of the Snowden disclosures has the pressure to justify and reform these practices been applied.

What fiendish trick will the arch-traitor think of next?

What's the 4th amendment?

Originally Posted by ICKE

Right now the amount of disorderly people in our society is growing and they might become inconvenient to our daily routine. That's why I fully support increasing the defense budget and appropriations to local police so we can put birds in the sky, boots on the ground and eyes inside the web.

Are you not a concerned citizen? Are you part of the team?

Join the Mobile Infantry NSA and save the Galaxy western world. Service guarantees citizenship.