http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbo.../1100-6416542/Don’t get me wrong, they’re big, impressive numbers for consoles that aren’t even a month old. After all, Nintendo’s Wii only sold 600,000 in its first week, and the PlayStation 2 only sold 500,000. But nobody is arguing that those consoles weren’t incredibly successful.
All those numbers really mean is that Sony and Microsoft have been more prepared for consumer demand than at any previous console launch. If more consoles were currently available for either system, they’d sell even more.
Sales numbers are meaningless for determining how “successful” either console is until after supply starts to surpass demand. Until you can walk into a store and pick one up. At that point, you’ll get objective numbers, minus the spin, and the popularity contest winner will be revealed.
Agreed. They can pump this out much faster then in the past.
"Don't read much into it"
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That's the point, you can find Xbox Ones
There have been multiple Target stores near me that have had XBO stock on hand, on the shelf, every day since it released. They only disappeared after Black Friday.
These types of articles are pretty tiresome.
successful launch is an important factor but it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. people waited too long for PS4/X1 to launch, that explains the impressive launch numbers. but honestly I think PS4 will easily lead next gen consoles saleswise. Sony will regain some of it's marketshare in the US, and expand even more in EU/JP.
Completely agree. Seems to state the obvious.
Surprisingly well said
This makes sense. What makes less sense is when some specifically try to discredit the initial success of the consoles by claiming the sales don't matter.
These articles are just lazy. It's common sense that you can't predict 5 years of sales based off of supply constrained launch windows. But when both console makers are able to produce more supply than ever before, and are still supply constrained, it's not exactly a bad omen.
kojima cares
Consoles are still doomed, god dammit! Listen to meeeee!Originally Posted by Nafai1123
These articles are just lazy. It's common sense that you can't predict 5 years of sales based off of supply constrained launch windows. But when both console makers are able to produce more supply than ever before, and are still supply constrained, it's not exactly a bad omen.
I don't care. I'm not clicking on that link.
I can't find PS4 anywhere in the US, my friend told me that demand in Europe is so big that less than quarter of preorders were fulfilled.
Sony strategically concentrated PS4 stock in US/UK in order to regain some marketshare from MS and seems like they succeeded so far.
Sony strategically concentrated PS4 stock in US/UK in order to regain some marketshare from MS and seems like they succeeded so far.
I don't care about pointless articles telling me not to care. I'm happy Sony is having record breaking success and i personally think their success will be best for the industry.
Yeah, I think at this point you're only "losing" if your consoles are in stock all the time while the other guys' consoles are perpetually sold out.
He's not "fighting the good fight". Look for yourself.Originally Posted by Naminator
Keep fighting the good fight bro.
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Damn, the Amazon Xbox One's finally sold out after 8 hours. It happened JUST after I posted this. Pay me MS lol.It seems that the Xbox One has finally gone out of stock; but yeah, the point is that it ain't that difficult to find Xbox Ones either online or in retail, or at least it ain't as hard as finding PS4s.
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I'm tired of reading these smug know-it-all articles. Would we read the same opinions if a console sells just 50 units at launch? No? What does that imply? Launch numbers matter. A lot. It doesn't determine who wins the generation, but not every stat has to. It is an important step towards success and when a company pulls off a successful launch, they deserve every bit of praise they get. Let's just leave it there.
People saying it doesn't matter much are as misguided as those itching to declare winners.
People saying it doesn't matter much are as misguided as those itching to declare winners.
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I attribute sales to availability and 8/7 years of a single gen.
My target has multiple xbox ones
No ps4's though.
No ps4's though.
It does matter. It shows there is healthy demand for new consoles where many analysts thought there wasn't going to be. Write an article about that.
There were 5 PS4's just sitting on the shelf at a Fred Meyer in Seattle yesterday (I already have my PS4 but always curious to look what they have in stock). You just need to keep going back to different retailers and hope you get there after a shipment came in but before they sell out.Where?
Regardless, this path of discussion is the definition of anecdotal evidence. Both consoles are selling out fast. Sometimes you'll go to a retailer and find XBO's but no PS4's. The next day there could be no XBO's but they will have PS4's. We should be excited that both are selling well.
It really doesn't matter until January. If we see one of these two consoles sitting on store shelves and not moving, that's when you have a definitive answer as to which way the winds are blowing and how hard they're blowing.
The hardcore gamers, early adopters, and impulse buyers will get theirs this year. We still have scalpers grabbing them every time they're seen on store shelves so there's that as well.
The hardcore gamers, early adopters, and impulse buyers will get theirs this year. We still have scalpers grabbing them every time they're seen on store shelves so there's that as well.
You should have included the very next line:
"But you probably already know that it’s going to be the PS4."
lol
"But you probably already know that it’s going to be the PS4."
lol
The sales figures we should be waiting for are March and April onward. Both PS4 and XB1 are going to sell as many units as they can manufacture until the hardcore demand is satiated.
This, plus the next couple of months can easily determine people's main console. With so much emphasis on online communities and staying connected, the console that all your friends have will have a massive impact on which device you pick up. The more of a lead either system can generate the better off they are in the long run. It is setting the stage for critical adoption.Originally Posted by Stillmatic
It does matter. It shows there is healthy demand for new consoles where many analysts thought there wasn't going to be. Write an article about that.
It seems that the Xbox One has finally gone out of stock; but yeah, the point is that it ain't that difficult to find Xbox Ones either online or in retail, or at least it ain't as hard as finding PS4s.He's not "fighting the good fight". Look for yourself.
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That too. I can't remember how many articles (and posts) i read this year about how PS4 and XBO were destined to flop at launch (using the WiiU as evidence or stating that mobile has killed console gaming)Originally Posted by Stillmatic
It does matter. It shows there is healthy demand for new consoles where many analysts thought there wasn't going to be. Write an article about that.
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Some don't want to, to them there clearly has to be a winner and in their eyes a loser. Even if both are breaking records.Originally Posted by Iced_Eagle
Regardless, this path of discussion is the definition of anecdotal evidence. Both consoles are selling out fast. Sometimes you'll go to a retailer and find XBO's but no PS4's. The next day there could be no XBO's but they will have PS4's. We should be excited that both are selling well.
Those PS4's are from third party sellers and are being sold for a minimum of $800. I guess they are technically available to buy.He's not "fighting the good fight". Look for yourself.
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I can see the headlines in two years now: "Consoles are selling great but will it last?"
Well, for hours today, and hours yesterday you could just go online to the most popular online retailer in the U.S. and pick up an Xbox One.Until you can walk into a store and pick one up. At that point, you’ll get objective numbers, minus the spin, and the popularity contest winner will be revealed.
So am I allowed to start giving meaning to sales figures?
Anybody that's been around for a couple (or more) console launches knows that all of the attempts at claiming victory this early are way premature.
Let alone the anecdotal evidence... Not a big enough eye roll or lol gif for those
Let alone the anecdotal evidence... Not a big enough eye roll or lol gif for those
"Currently Unavailable"He's not "fighting the good fight". Look for yourself.
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LOL
Because they're utterly pointless. We're not mentally handicapped. Everyone understands that it's because XB1 and PS4 manufacture chains are much stronger than every past generation. As mentioned in every single one of these worthless threads, the real issue the author should have tackled is how Sony and MS pulled off something never done before. How were they able to ensure so much stock?Originally Posted by Syphon Filter
how come?
And it's also extremely reductive to believe that supplies in the first year do not have bearing on overall success of the console.
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