This is like when the PS3 launched and someone at Sony was like "I'll give you $1000 if you can find a PS3 on store shelves."
The idea that these systems are going to keep selling out because they are supply constrained doesn't appear to be true, especially for XB1.
It is absolutely true that XB1 outsold PS4 on Amazon over the last 24-hours, yes. You can say that.Well, for hours today, and hours yesterday you could just go online to the most popular online retailer in the U.S. and pick up an Xbox One.
So am I allowed to start giving meaning to sales figures?
Exactly where? On eBay?And you can find PS4's. What's your point?
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Now this is a balanced article that calls out the both of them, not some dumbass opinion piece only calling out one in respects to another just *in case.... Sales numbers didn't live up to the expectation.
I do believe that adoption rates between the consoles are going to be slower but I still believe that once the phase out older platforms, it will grow.
These initial sales numbers might not mean much in the grand scheme of things (besides the fact that the demand for next-gen is there), but it will matter a lot to 3rd party publishers that want to release their big budget titles on these consoles. The quicker these machines sell, the quicker we can get away from cross-gen ports.
new records are being set in the video game industry...
....but it doesn't matter.
I swear to god these people...smh
....but it doesn't matter.
I swear to god these people...smh
Would we be getting articles like this if it was clear that Xbox One was the sales leader?
Absolutely not. Just look at all the monthly NPD that still champions the Xbox all the time. The Xbox One is equivalent to the Apple Stanning websites clearly do when they are trying not to be bias.Originally Posted by DragonSworne
Would we be getting articles like this if it was clear that Xbox One was the sales leader?
I think they matter, it shows unprecedented demand, and no, I don't think there will be a drop off of hype with big third party and first party franchises coming out on them in the future.
Where I live, XBOX Ones and PS4's are sold out and have been. I live in a smaller city too.
People need to stop writing articles where you assume your readers are children that need to be talked down to.
I feel like this is the fifth time some game writer has written this story. What's the deal? Of course they matter, as much as game sales ever actually matter.
These guys write a story every fucking month on which console sold the most. Why do those months matter, but this month doesn't?
These guys write a story every fucking month on which console sold the most. Why do those months matter, but this month doesn't?
Agreed. Of course, consoles will sell out because of their launches & because of holidays like Christmas.It really doesn't matter until January. If we see one of these two consoles sitting on store shelves and not moving, that's when you have a definitive answer as to which way the winds are blowing and how hard they're blowing.
The hardcore gamers, early adopters, and impulse buyers will get theirs this year. We still have scalpers grabbing them every time they're seen on store shelves so there's that as well.
It's when December's over & when the launch hype for these consoles dies down that the true test for these consoles will begin. And in this case, it's gonna be a tough road for Microsoft more so than Sony, because how many casuals are willing to shell out $500 w/tax on a Xbox One, plus a yearly subscription to Xbox Live Gold for $60, all just for online multiplayer & for accessing many media features?
Not too many. That will round up nearly to the price of a 60 GB PS3. People would rather spend that kind of money on new tablets or smartphones.
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Like i said to the other guy, in the past very little was made compared to now. If they made much more back then they would also sell that out.But they didn't . Ans only thing we know is record being breaking but it's no big deal. Add to the fact ps4 is also supply constraint
Do not know in other territories but here in Mexico you can find Xbone everywhere , you can also find PS4 but is more hard to get one. Here are some pics I took today :
Day one editions , there are at least two big national retailers that still have one day editions..
Chedraui , a national supermarket like wallmart :
Sams club , this is the same rack they had since launch , they just managed to move half of the units since laucn , PS4 rack /stand was almost empty so they decided to put the only 5 they had PS4 with the xbones.
Our Sams store is the most important in all Mexico , it has the record sales ($$$) every year due to its geographical location.
Day one editions , there are at least two big national retailers that still have one day editions..
Chedraui , a national supermarket like wallmart :
Sams club , this is the same rack they had since launch , they just managed to move half of the units since laucn , PS4 rack /stand was almost empty so they decided to put the only 5 they had PS4 with the xbones.
Our Sams store is the most important in all Mexico , it has the record sales ($$$) every year due to its geographical location.
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Of course it matters, every single week of sales matters, the more hardware is out there, the bigger the userbase you have to sell software and the better the support you'll get from third-party publishers, and the more flexibility you'll have with your hardware pricing to maintain your competitive edge, it's about having a great launch and continuing the momentum.
Pricing matters, software line-up matters, hardware matters, they all matter.
No, but everyone's so afraid of being optimistic and wants to "brace for negativity" so much so that it's spreading through articles like this. It's like people don't want to be caught off-guard and look bad, so they assume this "well it doesn't matter" mentality. It's made much worse by the fact that they have zero information in the article to suggest they have the faintest clue about how these new consoles will behave in the market. This brings me back to my original point: These articles are worthless and say nothing.Originally Posted by Syphon Filter
You really think gamespot or anyone out there wants to lose their job by wanting consoles to fail?
They'd be much better off investigating how these sales happened.
Indeed. I want both consoles to sell through every system the make so that we can get away from cross gen stuff more quickly. If these systems take off at an incredible pace, then we will likely see the last of the cross gen stuff in 2014, and that is the way it should be.Originally Posted by MercuryLS
These initial sales numbers might not mean much in the grand scheme of things (besides the fact that the demand for next-gen is there), but it will matter a lot to 3rd party publishers that want to release their big budget titles on these consoles. The quicker these machines sell, the quicker we can get away from cross-gen ports.
there's no real winner in games journalism, either.
They weren't this “reasonable “ when the Wii was setting sales records. The press was willing to sing their praises.
Well said. However, I don't believe these authors are thinking ahead to avoid being caught off-guard if things go south. That's giving them too much credit. Apparently, being jaded is considered cool these days. So a lot of them are trying. Quite hard.Originally Posted by KoopaTheCasual
No, but everyone's so afraid of being optimistic and wants to "brace for negativity" so much so that it's spreading through articles like this. It's like people don't want to be caught off-guard and look bad, so they assume this "well it doesn't matter" mentality. It's made much worse by the fact that they have zero information in the article to suggest they have the faintest clue about how these new consoles will behave in the market. This brings me back to my original point: These articles are worthless and say nothing.
They'd be much better off investigating how these sales happened.
Article makes a great point. Both are selling well.
I still don't understand why people keep pointing to Amazon for proof that the PS4 is more popular. We have no idea what stock looks like. We could just as easily assume that Sony is having production problems and Microsoft has these flying off the shelves to whomever wants one. The PS4 is never in stock, period, how is that a good thing?He's not "fighting the good fight". Look for yourself.
Amazon PS4
Amazon Xbox One
Damn, the Amazon Xbox One's finally sold out after 8 hours. It happened JUST after I posted this. Pay me MS lol.
Originally Posted by Chuck Norris
That's the point, you can find Xbox Ones
And you can find PS4's. What's your point?
Where?
Originally Posted by Chuck Norris
I wish that were true. Then I would have one!
Where?
Not true, i've looked everywhere, i can only hope to get one before years end.
He's not "fighting the good fight". Look for yourself.
Amazon PS4
Amazon Xbox One
Damn, the Amazon Xbox One's finally sold out after 8 hours. It happened JUST after I posted this. Pay me MS lol.
It seems that the Xbox One has finally gone out of stock; but yeah, the point is that it ain't that difficult to find Xbox Ones either online or in retail, or at least it ain't as hard as finding PS4s.
That too. I can't remember how many articles (and posts) i read this year about how PS4 and XBO were destined to flop at launch (using the WiiU as evidence or stating that mobile has killed console gaming)
stop, fighting over whether your console of choice is more popular is so stupid.
'Sup Ars.
They are missing the part where other tech/video gaming sites kept on repeating that the gaming industry was dying because of the tablet and smartphones market.
But the demand is still so strong and it is nowhere near dying yet we get these kind of articles instead.
But the demand is still so strong and it is nowhere near dying yet we get these kind of articles instead.
I think some people are actually asking where to find one. Also, the others hardly said much compared to many other posts out there. That list of quotes looks so unnecessary.Originally Posted by instinct6142
stop, fighting over whether your console of choice is more popular is so stupid.
You can find PS4s? I kind of doubt that is wrong. I'm sure there is one somewhere, which is the stupid thing about these arguments. People take their single shred of anecdotal evidence and use it to support their agenda like it actually applies for everyone.Can you read? He said something and was clearly wrong, other people corrected him. Stop assuming someone cares if a console is more popular. Next time read the initial post? Thanks.
No, I'm saying you can't find them or if you do, they're sold out in minutes. The first guy was saying that you could find PS4s and many other posters were saying no or asking where. The person who quoted me assumed that the quote list replied because they "cared about their console of choice being the most popular" when that was clearly not the point of the responses.You can find PS4s? I kind of doubt that is wrong. I'm sure there is one somewhere, which is the stupid thing about these arguments. People take their single shred of anecdotal evidence and use it to support their agenda like it actually applies for everyone.
Oh, and yeah I agree with that anecdote evidence thing. A single store could have 2 consoles but all of the big retailers in the US won't have them online and they'll use that for their argument.
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Haha, thanks for the laugh.Originally Posted by WetPotatoBread
DAT post history.
I feel like I've posted this three times now, so I'm probably going to make this one of the last. Plenty of Xbox One's available at my local Midwest Target and Best Buy. Haven't checked Gamestop. Have two friends scouring hard for a PS4. No luck.
actually it means publishers have a bigger reason to thrown some real real weight behind next gen games sooner than later.
So you an everyone else went to every retailer on planet earth that is currently selling both consoles and verified their stock to come to the conclusion that the xbone is selling like shit? Until you achieve that task, a couple people taking pics at their local store an amazon stock means absolutely nothing. The people who said there was stock in NY, the next poster wanted proof of a receipt. Like seriously y'all need to stop arguing like little children about which console is selling better an just enjoy your box.Can you read? He said something and was clearly wrong, other people corrected him. Stop assuming someone cares if a console is more popular. Next time read the initial post? Thanks.
An who cares if it took five minutes or 8 hours, the Xbox sold out on Amazon today. Stop moving the goal post in which defines an item selling out.
Agreed. I think you got caught up in the cross fire because "You can still find Xbox One" is the typical response people use when arguing that the Xbox One launch hasn't been successful :PNo, I'm saying you can't find them or if you do, they're sold out in minutes. The first guy was saying that you could find PS4s and many other posters were saying no or asking where. The person who quoted me assumed that the quote list replied because they "cared about their console of choice being the most popular" when that was clearly not the point of the responses.
Oh, and yeah I agree with that anecdote evidence thing. A single store could have 2 consoles but all of the big retailers in the US won't have them online and they'll use that for their argument.
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