I've been thinking, in anticipation of VGX, what Nintendo could show me to wow me with the new Zelda. Having just beaten Wind Waker HD, I feel like a massive change is needed to the formula, but I'm not sure that the ALBW changes are enough for me.
That got me thinking: what if Nintendo really took a risk and applied the formula (with new innovations) to a whole new setting / atmosphere. Could it work?
I imagine the idea of Wind Waker + Super Mario Galaxy, kind of like Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction.
It'd be a jarring change and might not be worth the gamble, but I'm curious what people think.
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I'd love it. I don't think Zelda diehards would take too kindly to the idea though.
Theoretically, just about anything could work. So sure. Zelda can be flexible just as Final Fantasy was for example.
Someone post Zelda fallout art.
I'd rather see a Cyber- or Steampunk Metroid than Zelda tbh.
Why does everything have to be wrapped in a Mario or Zelda skin. What I would like them to do is make a new IP instead of leaning on mascots. With a new IP they can do whatever the hell they want without rustling any jimmies of overbearing fans.
Absolutely, I think any unusual or surprising setting could really do wonders for the series going forward. It doesn't have to be Assassin's Creed but there's no reason not to shake up the basic swords/medieval times scenery that usually serves as the setting for the series.
I like the idea of a new IP but with bombas like W101 I'm skeptical of it actually selling.Originally Posted by Teletraan1
Why does everything have to be wrapped in a Mario or Zelda skin. What I would like them to do is make a new IP instead of leaning on mascots. With a new IP they can do whatever the hell they want without rustling any jimmies of overbearing fans.
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If you're going to go THAT far off the rails, just make it a new IP. Having to shoehorn existing IP into new concepts to get fans to buy it is more of a problem than a solution.
I'm all for adjusting the game for a new setting and trying different stuff. Just not cyberpunk :( nothing to do with Zelda, I just don't like that setting.
A game that plays like Zelda with Deus Ex gameplay variety and choice set in the Shadowrun universe would own.
I think it could work. Maybe if it was something along the lines of Skies of Arcadia's Silvite civilization -- a kind of mix between fantasy and sci-fi -- it could be pretty cool.
Or like the old world.
Or like the old world.
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Sure, if it was set before Skyward Sword.
Lets see Starfox adventures2 and Beyond Good and Evil 2 happen!
It'll probably work. There's been robots and high tech shit in Zelda for a while now in multiple areas within the timeline. The problem I see is that it might be too limiting. Zelda's forte is the mix of magic and tech and they somehow combine it in a style that seems to make sense.
I can see Nintendo making a more tech focused Zelda but not one based completely on it as it wouldn't make any sense.
I can see Nintendo making a more tech focused Zelda but not one based completely on it as it wouldn't make any sense.
If they did go sci-fi with it, I'd like to see it be a prequel. Set up the arrival of the "gods," and show more of their species, revealing them to be an alien race. Expose more of the technology behind what the triforce is.
The Legend of Zelda (Galaxy). Go to new planets, etc.
The Legend of Zelda (Galaxy). Go to new planets, etc.
Skyward Sword has a race of robots so it's not entirely out of the picture.
The core idea of exploring an ancient cave or shrine might diminish though.
actually this is just Metroid
The core idea of exploring an ancient cave or shrine might diminish though.
actually this is just Metroid
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Sure it can work....if they can make it. Sorta hard to imagine it tho lol.
I think it could work. Maybe if it was something along the lines of Skies of Arcadia's Silvite civilization -- a kind of mix between fantasy and sci-fi -- it could be pretty cool.
Dude, if they just made SoA 2...
who needs Zelda re-skinned v12.0 when you could have the greatest RPG ever (reskinned... in HD!)
Epona
THE GIANT ROBOT
THE GIANT ROBOT
Sci-fi Zelda with interplanetary travel and Captain Zelda as the protagonist searching for the legendary Prince Link?
So crazy it couldn't not work.
So crazy it couldn't not work.
Nintendo do something different? Buahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha
Why not just make a game that plays a lot like Zelda but isn't called Zelda?
Yup, definitely. There was an April Fools joke years ago with concept art of a cyberpunk Zelda. Link had a light saber type thing instead of the Master Sword and Epona was a motorbike. It looked brilliant, I'm surprised that Nintendo didn't 'borrow' the concept and make it happen tbh.
The gameplay elements could be fun as hell in that setting. I don't get the point of branding it Zelda in that case, though. That's like saying "Guys what if the next uncharted was a scifi zombie apocalypse game?" Sure those similar game design principles made a badass game, but it was better off as The Last of Us than it would have been as Uncharted: Among Clickers.
Something that can be applied to the Zelda series which Assassin's Creed does without a second thought, is placing the lead character whenever, wherever they want. I think Link is an established enough character to defeat evil no matter where or what "timeline" he is in. The character of Link is mysterious in nature, and if they played that up by plopping him somewhere unexpected, it would be a great opportunity to delve deeper into his psyche and flesh him out as someone we more deeply connect with.Originally Posted by maxcriden
Absolutely, I think any unusual or surprising setting could really do wonders for the series going forward. It doesn't have to be Assassin's Creed but there's no reason not to shake up the basic swords/medieval times scenery that usually serves as the setting for the series.
The Zelda series has such great bones; all it's working pieces so elaborate it's almost a shame we haven't seen something of epic proportions. Whenever I play Zelda, it's that tug of the heart strings and subtle twists that make me love the universe and story even though it is not at the forefront of the designers' minds.
Aren't we getting something a bit similar next year with Hyper Light Drifter? (albeit not for a Nintendo console)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmMosNHhyxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmMosNHhyxI
Because those people saying Nintendo doesn't make new IPs didn't buy games like Sin and Punishment 2 or Wonderful 101Originally Posted by Teletraan1
Why does everything have to be wrapped in a Mario or Zelda skin. What I would like them to do is make a new IP instead of leaning on mascots. With a new IP they can do whatever the hell they want without rustling any jimmies of overbearing fans.
Real-time combat Chrono trigger thread?
Yeah. Pretty much.
Yeah. Pretty much.
Doesn't matter. It will never happen. Look at Majora's Mask megafans like myself. We can't even get something that creative and interesting again in the series.
We've already gotten Sci-Fi Zelda:
I've always thought that a feudal Japan style Zelda with Okami style graphics would be pretty great.
Actually I think this is looking at it the wrong way.Originally Posted by Manmademan
If you're going to go THAT far off the rails, just make it a new IP. Having to shoehorn existing IP into new concepts to get fans to buy it is more of a problem than a solution.
Zelda is really suited to this kind of reinterpretation, or it should be. Because it's about a mythic cycle that happens again and again in different ages. So the one step Nintendo has yet to take with Zelda is to follow that premise to its logical conclusion: the story of Zelda and Link can happen anywhere, any time, on any world.
It would make *sense* (given Zelda's premise) for say, a Zelda and Link to be reborn in what we'd see as a future time, only to discover the old drama is following them. More, something like this may stand a chance of shaking Zelda up and getting more people to notice the franchise again who drifted away.
Of course this would enrage fans who only interpret Zelda a single way. But at some point, the time may be right to enrage some fans, if there's an idea which really could open Zelda up to a new generation.
Absolutely, but Nintendo wouldn't do it.
Medieval fantasy hero Link approaches Mount Doom or whatever the fuck it's called;
IT'S MOUNT RUSHMORE!
Honestly I'd love something like this.
IT'S MOUNT RUSHMORE!
Honestly I'd love something like this.
So in other words, something Nintendo would rather do.Originally Posted by Manmademan
If you're going to go THAT far off the rails, just make it a new IP. Having to shoehorn existing IP into new concepts to get fans to buy it is more of a problem than a solution.
Hahaha, oh you. :(We've already gotten Sci-Fi Zelda:
Absolutely, there's no reason it couldn't work and be the best Zelda ever.
It'll never happen though. I don't know why but I just don't see Nintendo ever going that way with the series. Which is a shame, Hyrule could use a break. I'd love to see a radically new setting on Wii U.
It'll never happen though. I don't know why but I just don't see Nintendo ever going that way with the series. Which is a shame, Hyrule could use a break. I'd love to see a radically new setting on Wii U.
I no wantee
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