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mcfrank
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(Today, 04:53 AM)
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And I still can play the game. Worth trying if you bought it digitally and are annoyed by the server issues.

Edit: Ok, here is the full story since people were asking. This is Xbox One version purchased via Xbox Live

Monday night I spent two hours trying to get into a game and was only able to actually connect for around 15 minutes of that two hours. I logged onto the Xbox Support chat and asked for a refund and linked them to all the stories of the game not working. They said they could not do a refund but someone from Tier 3 support would contact me within 48 hours. 48 hours later no one had called, so I called them. I gave her my reference number, she put me on hold and 5 minutes later I had the refund. A while later I logged into my account and noticed the game was still there and I can still play. To those saying this is unethical, I did not ask to be able to keep playing the game I just asked for a refund on a broken game.
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nrvalleytime
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(Today, 04:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by mcfrank

And I still can play the game. Worth trying if you bought it digitally and are annoyed by the server issues.

You'll need to provide more information buddy - no way in hell is EA going to make this an easily available option.

What console? And did you make the transition to next-gen?
Soulflarz
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(Today, 04:55 AM)
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so
"If annoyed by server issues, get all your money back, then play more."
...uhm

(And he can still play it since it doesnt check for a license update. Like if you gameshare, and then take the license for yourself, a friend wont lose it)
Got the Shakes
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(Today, 04:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by mcfrank

And I still can play the game. Worth trying if you bought it digitally and are annoyed by the server issues.

I got a refund for Sim City on PC and could still play for a few days before they removed it from my account.
Steel
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(Today, 04:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by mcfrank

And I still can play the game. Worth trying if you bought it digitally and are annoyed by the server issues.

You know I once got a refund from microsoft for an XBLA arcade game, they stated that I could still play the game, but if I did, I would be banned. Not sure how they keep track precisely though. Achievements, perhaps?
Soulflarz
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(Today, 04:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Steel

You know I once got a refund from microsoft for an XBLA arcade game, they stated that I could still play the game, but if I did, I would be banned. Not sure how they keep track precisely though. Achievements, perhaps?

Thats simply not true....because say someone else on your console bought it, and you play

Im calling that bluff by them.
richisawesome
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(Today, 04:58 AM)
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If you're in the UK, request a refund based on the Sale of Goods Act, making it clear that the product is unfit for purpose. Should work easily.
GoofsterStud
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(Today, 04:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by mcfrank

And I still can play the game. Worth trying if you bought it digitally and are annoyed by the server issues.

That's the gamer's definition of unethical.
Storm360
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(Today, 05:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Steel

You know I once got a refund from microsoft for an XBLA arcade game, they stated that I could still play the game, but if I did, I would be banned. Not sure how they keep track precisely though. Achievements, perhaps?

Your Xbox LIVE account says what you are playing at all times.
richisawesome
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(Today, 05:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by GoofsterStud

That's is the gamer's definition of unethical.

But it's not down to him. Microsoft have given him free money and not deleted the game from his account.

It's like buying a fridge from Currys that is faulty but does lovely ice cubes, but when you try to return it they give you a full refund and tell you to keep the fridge. But I don't want the fridge. ah well, I can still make ice cubes.

Or, using another example, it's like getting a refund from Amazon.
Steel
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(Today, 05:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Soulflarz

Thats simply not true....because say someone else on your console bought it, and you play

Im calling that bluff by them.

Maybe, and I considered that. But I decided against chancing it with a threat like that.

Originally Posted by Storm360

Your Xbox LIVE account says what you are playing at all times.

True.
ElectricBlanketFire
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(Today, 05:02 AM)
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OP come back. We need closure on this anecdote.
GoofsterStud
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(Today, 05:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by richisawesome

But it's not down to him. Microsoft have given him free money and not deleted the game from his account.

It's like buying a fridge from Currys that is faulty but does lovely ice cubes, but when you try to return it they give you a full refund and tell you to keep the fridge. But I don't want the fridge. ah well, I can still make ice cubes.

Or, using another example, it's like getting a refund from Amazon.

Continuing to play a game you complained for a refund for isn't justified.
macewank
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(Today, 05:03 AM)
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So you complained, got a full refund for your game, and you went back to play the game more?

That's...... something.
Jakeee
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(Today, 05:04 AM)
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So essentially you stole the game?
DR2K
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(Today, 05:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by GoofsterStud

That's the gamer's definition of unethical.

He gets to keep his broken mess of a game.
DoubleTake
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(Today, 05:04 AM)
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OMAN part two just waiting to happen
Gez
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(Today, 05:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by GoofsterStud

That's the gamer's definition of unethical.

Originally Posted by GoofsterStud

Continuing to play a game you complained for a refund for isn't justified.

Poor EA we are lucky to have you calling out those scumball gamers.
IdreamofHIME
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(Today, 05:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by richisawesome

But it's not down to him. Microsoft have given him free money and not deleted the game from his account.

It's like buying a fridge from Currys that is faulty but does lovely ice cubes, but when you try to return it they give you a full refund and tell you to keep the fridge. But I don't want the fridge. ah well, I can still make ice cubes.

Or, using another example, it's like getting a refund from Amazon.


Comet did that with our old TV. The HDMI stopped working and we called Comet to come fix/relace it. They booked an appointment and never showed. 2 days later they called saying they had no time to come check it, so they were sending a gift card of £700 (£200 more than we paid for it) to buy a new one and asked us to dispose of the broken one.
It ended up in the bedroom a freeview/Wii TV ^_^
richisawesome
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(Today, 05:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by GoofsterStud

Continuing to play a game you complained for a refund for isn't justified.

But the very fact that he still has the game proves that Microsoft either don't give a shit, or they will delete it at a later date.

Either way, who is it hurting? They've effectively said "yeah it's shit. here's the money for your troubles, keep the sodding game though - we don't want it"
DizzyCaffeine
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(Today, 05:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by macewank

So you complained, got a full refund for your game, and you went back to play the game more?

That's...... something.

Oh, c'mon. If you did the same, and then noticed that it was still playable on your console, you would totally play the game. And let's face it - it's BF4. The game itself probably stopped him before he got very far.
instinct6142
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(Today, 05:08 AM)
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EA really did screw BF4 up
antitrop
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(Today, 05:09 AM)
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I don't want a refund for Battlefield 4, I want a refund for Call of Duty: Ghosts.

A good, but broken, game will eventually be patched into playability. A shit game will be shit forever.
macewank
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(Today, 05:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gez

Poor EA we are lucky to have you calling out those scumball gamers.

I don't get this mindset at all.

The game is broken, OP got a refund. That's fine.

OP turned right around and started playing it again. That is, in essence, piracy. Yours, mine, the OP's, and anyone else's opinion of EA is irrelevant to that fact.
Gez
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(Today, 05:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by macewank

That is, in essence, piracy

No its not, based on the OP MS made a mistake, pure and simple.
DizzyCaffeine
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(Today, 05:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

I don't want a refund for Battlefield 4, I want a refund for Call of Duty: Ghosts.

A good, but broken, game will eventually be patched into playability. A shit game will be shit forever.

And that's why you'll never get a refund for a shit game.
richisawesome
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(Today, 05:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by macewank

I don't get this mindset at all.

The game is broken, OP got a refund. That's fine.

OP turned right around and started playing it again. That is, in essence, piracy. Yours, mine, the OP's, and anyone else's opinion of EA is irrelevant to that fact.

It's not piracy if Microsoft have let him keep the game, which they obviously have.
MYeager
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(Today, 05:13 AM)

Originally Posted by Gez

Poor EA we are lucky to have you calling out those scumball gamers.

He really showed EA by getting a refund and still playing the game, I bet they'll really get the message.
GoofsterStud
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(Today, 05:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gez

Poor EA we are lucky to have you calling out those scumball gamers.

Funny... I am usually known as the anti-EA-fanboy for commenting on their unethical practices.

Originally Posted by richisawesome

It's not piracy if Microsoft have let him keep the game, which they obviously have.

Would the term exploit be more to your liking?
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MThanded
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(Today, 05:13 AM)
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Why are you playing it if its so terrible.
Naminator
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(Today, 05:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by mcfrank

And I still can play the game. Worth trying if you bought it digitally and are annoyed by the server issues.

Well I don't think that game will be on your account for long, but you could have at least kept your dignity and didn't play it after getting the refund.
Gruso
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(Today, 05:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by macewank

I don't get this mindset at all.

The game is broken, OP got a refund. That's fine.

OP turned right around and started playing it again. That is, in essence, piracy. Yours, mine, the OP's, and anyone else's opinion of EA is irrelevant to that fact.

Haha. No it isn't.

Seems like there's just a delay between refund & game being removed. People should like, relax.
Darknight
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(Today, 05:16 AM)
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As much as BF4 is broken and you got your money back, you come here to try to tell people to do this to get it "free" in a scummy way?

If I were MS, I would remove the title from your DL list/disable the license IF they give you back your money for a digital title.
injurai
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(Today, 05:16 AM)
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OP did nothing wrong.

Until he encouraged others to take advantage of the loop hole MS left as a favor for people truly in positions like OP. SMH.
Papercuts
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(Today, 05:16 AM)
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Battlefield 4 is so broken it doesn't even refund correctly.
Off-Kilter
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(Today, 05:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Papercuts

Battlefield 4 is so broken it doesn't even refund correctly.

oh my god
LQX
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(Today, 05:18 AM)
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Ugh, I really hate when people do this as it ruins it for everyone.
commedieu
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(Today, 05:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Papercuts

Battlefield 4 is so broken it doesn't even refund correctly.

I

Am

Dead..

Lul.
GoofsterStud
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(Today, 05:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Papercuts

Battlefield 4 is so broken it doesn't even refund correctly.

Should of been the first post!

Well done.
EightBitNate
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(Today, 05:21 AM)
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I know it's kinda broken and everything, but I hope people don't milk this.
bakeray
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(Today, 05:24 AM)
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I'm sure they won't fix it after you posted this on a highly traffic'd forum and list your gamertag in your profile. lol
Speedy Blue Dude
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(Today, 05:26 AM)
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When the OP gets his account perma banned, and loses access to all his game downloads, his gold subscription, and his Xbox Live Currency, he won't have anyone to blame but himself. Microsoft CAN NOT remove games from a users download list, so they just except the user to never play the game again, if he does his account is perma banned, this is a common known fact. ;P
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(Today, 05:27 AM)
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I said that I don't personally want a refund, but I definitely wouldn't recommend anyone buy Battlefield 4 until they unfuck their shit. It's been a pretty gross year for EA, between this and Sim City.
MYeager
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(Today, 05:27 AM)

Originally Posted by Papercuts

Battlefield 4 is so broken it doesn't even refund correctly.

Alright now I'm okay with this again.
CriterionDog
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(Today, 05:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by mcfrank

And I still can play the game. Worth trying if you bought it digitally and are annoyed by the server issues.

So it is worth it to return it for a refund and still continue to play it?!
If so, that's not right, man.
Crayons
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(Today, 05:28 AM)
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You can't Xbox Live Gold is required
Vidal
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(Today, 05:30 AM)

Originally Posted by macewank

I don't get this mindset at all.

The game is broken, OP got a refund. That's fine.

OP turned right around and started playing it again. That is, in essence, piracy. Yours, mine, the OP's, and anyone else's opinion of EA is irrelevant to that fact.

Piracy?

So if you buy a burger and complain that your meal taste like dog barf (due bad cooking) and due your complain you get a new meal and refund, is that food piracy?
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(Today, 05:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by antitrop

I said that I don't personally want a refund, but I definitely wouldn't recommend anyone buy Battlefield 4 until they unfuck their shit. It's been a pretty gross year for EA, between this and Sim City.

Honestly. Last bf ill buy, and will not touch any ea products here out. Its like they think we are fucking stupid. Not paying to alpha test shit anymore. Any dev/pub. It was a ride since 1942.

Shits getting old. I value my dollars, and they are getting harder to come buy.
Wario64
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(Today, 05:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Crayons

You can't Xbox Live Gold is required

You need to setup the acocunt first.

Fancy Corndog
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(Today, 05:33 AM)
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If they want to call games consumable then this makes sense.

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