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Malvingt2
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(12-13-2013, 02:57 PM)
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I wanted to wait until VGX fever went out the way before making this thread.

On Friday, May 11, 2001, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for METROID PRIME by Nintendo of America Inc., Redmond, WA 98052. The USPTO has given the METROID PRIME trademark serial number of 76255608. The current federal status of this trademark filing is REGISTERED AND RENEWED. The correspondent listed for METROID PRIME is Jerald E. Nagae, Reg. No. 29,418 of Christensen O'Connor Johnson Kindness, 1420 FIFTH AVENUE, SUITE 2800, SEATTLE WA 98101-2347 . The METROID PRIME trademark is filed in the category of Computer & Software Products & Electrical & Scientific Products . The description provided to the USPTO for METROID PRIME is Computer game software; computer game discs; computer game programs; electronic game programs; electronic game software; electronic game discs; interactive computer game discs; interactive video game discs; interactive video game programs; interactive computer game programs; interactive video game software; interactive computer game software; video game discs; video game programs; video game software.

Word Mark: METROID PRIME
Status/ REGISTERED AND RENEWED
Status Date: 8/13/2013
Serial Number: 76255608
Filing Date: 5/11/2001
Registration Number: 2762377
Registration Date: 9/9/2003

http://www.trademarkia.com/metroid-prime-76255608.html

this Renewed is very interesting to me. For anyone who is curious this is Metroid's trademark pages

2009: http://www.trademarkia.com/metroid-77749727.html

1987 one: http://www.trademarkia.com/metroid-73680072.html

They are all active.
NotMyRealName
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(12-13-2013, 02:58 PM)
Isn't this common practice, renewing trademarks?
GameE
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(12-13-2013, 03:00 PM)

Originally Posted by NotMyRealName

Isn't this common practice, renewing trademarks?

Yea thats what I thought
Tadale
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(12-13-2013, 03:02 PM)
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I feel like Other M was like double punishment for Metroid fans. First, we dealt with a sub-par game that was too simplified and missed the point of why people like the series in the first place; then after relatively poor sales, Nintendo seems to have left the series to languish. We can't catch a break.

And for as much shit as Other M gets, MP3 sort of started the series down that direction with more outside characters, segmented worlds, and forced narrative. It's almost been 10 years since the last great Metroid games: Prime 2 and Zero Mission.
Malvingt2
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(12-13-2013, 03:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by NotMyRealName

Isn't this common practice, renewing trademarks?

Depends. Let me make an example. Nintendo didn't renew Xenoblade trademark. Anyone can take it right now..
Jezehbell
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(12-13-2013, 03:05 PM)
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Well, Killer Instinct trademark was renewed a few months before the announcement.
Malvingt2
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Originally Posted by Jezehbell

Well, Killer Instinct trademark was renewed a few months before the announcement.

and before that M$ had some issues to get the Trademark back because of Fox.
Aostia
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(12-13-2013, 03:06 PM)
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Eternal Darkness trademark was renewed three times, I think, from its first episode.
In 2002.
Malvingt2
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(12-13-2013, 03:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aostia

Eternal Darkness trademark was renewed three times, I think, from its first episode.
In 2002.

Nintendo abandoned previous trademark and filled a new one this year.

http://www.trademarkia.com/eternal-d...-86017853.html
Triggerhappytel
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(12-13-2013, 03:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Malvingt2

Depends. Let me make an example. Nintendo didn't renew Xenoblade trademark. Anyone can take it right now..

Wait, what?! Xenoblade only came out, what, two years ago? But the trademark's already expired?!

Granted I don't really know how trademarks work, but this seems pretty ridiculous.
Malvingt2
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(12-13-2013, 03:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

Wait, what?! Xenoblade only came out, what, two years ago? But the trademark's already expired?!

Granted I don't really know how trademarks work, but this seems pretty ridiculous.

http://www.trademarkia.com/monado-77749675.html

the only thing related it to Xenoblade. Any other trademark [Xenoblade or Xenoblade Chronicles] can be taken by anyone.

It seem, NoA didn't fill for it. Not sure what did happen there.
Pociask
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(12-13-2013, 03:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tadale

I feel like Other M was like double punishment for Metroid fans. First, we dealt with a sub-par game that was too simplified and missed the point of why people like the series in the first place; then after relatively poor sales, Nintendo seems to have left the series to languish. We can't catch a break.

And for as much shit as Other M gets, MP3 sort of started the series down that direction with more outside characters, segmented worlds, and forced narrative. It's almost been 10 years since the last great Metroid games: Prime 2 and Zero Mission.

It sucks. I am a huge MP1 and 2 fan. I bought 3, but... it just didn't click. Never bought Other M, even when it was on sale for 5 bucks. Still kicking myself I never bought the Trilogy (why was that a limited print run? wouldn't it print money for Nintendo to have it as a player's choice title for 20 bucks?)
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Originally Posted by Malvingt2

Depends. Let me make an example. Nintendo didn't renew Xenoblade trademark. Anyone can take it right now..

...No. Xenoblade is recent and popular enough that, even if not registered, it belongs to Nintendo because it's "in use". I should mention here that trademark law is arranged in such a way, that the more you use a product and the more famous the association is with the publisher, the less need there is for registration. It makes more sense to register Eternal Darkness, as to avoid any confusion with Dyack and his Kickstarter failings, than it does to register Super Mario.
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Mael
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(12-13-2013, 03:14 PM)

Originally Posted by Tadale

I feel like Other M was like double punishment for Metroid fans. First, we dealt with a sub-par game that was too simplified and missed the point of why people like the series in the first place; then after relatively poor sales, Nintendo seems to have left the series to languish. We can't catch a break.

And for as much shit as Other M gets, MP3 sort of started the series down that direction with more outside characters, segmented worlds, and forced narrative. It's almost been 10 years since the last great Metroid games: Prime 2 and Zero Mission.

Actually Other M is really closer to....Metroid Fusion.
You know the game that came out at the same time as Metroid Prime....1.
Heck Other M is even less interesting because really it's just retread of Metroid Fusion except lamer and crappier.
Mumford
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(12-13-2013, 03:15 PM)
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So does this mean there could potentially be a Prime HD Collection?
Malvingt2
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Originally Posted by Dascu

...No. Xenoblade is recent and popular enough that, even if not registered, it belongs to Nintendo because it's "in use".

I see, I didn't know.
Lunar15
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(12-13-2013, 03:16 PM)
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Patents are always renewed. Unfortunately, this is nothing.
Hiccup
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(12-13-2013, 03:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Mael

Actually Other M is really closer to....Metroid Fusion.
You know the game that came out at the same time as Metroid Prime....1.
Heck Other M is even less interesting because really it's just retread of Metroid Fusion except lamer and crappier.

Heh. I just realized this. Wow. It really is Fusion.
Lunar15
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(12-13-2013, 03:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dascu

...No. Xenoblade is recent and popular enough that, even if not registered, it belongs to Nintendo because it's "in use". I should mention here that trademark law is arranged in such a way, that the more you use a product and the more famous the association is with the publisher, the less need there is for registration. It makes more sense to register Eternal Darkness, as to avoid any confusion with Dyack and his Kickstarter failings, than it does to register Super Mario.

Side Note: I just clicked on your member title out of curiosity, and it took me to an Other M hype page. Man, the difference between then and now...
Malvingt2
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(12-13-2013, 03:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dascu

...No. Xenoblade is recent and popular enough that, even if not registered, it belongs to Nintendo because it's "in use". I should mention here that trademark law is arranged in such a way, that the more you use a product and the more famous the association is with the publisher, the less need there is for registration. It makes more sense to register Eternal Darkness, as to avoid any confusion with Dyack and his Kickstarter failings, than it does to register Super Mario.

So why renewed Metroid Prime when Metroid still active?
Tadale
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(12-13-2013, 03:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mael

Actually Other M is really closer to....Metroid Fusion.
You know the game that came out at the same time as Metroid Prime....1.
Heck Other M is even less interesting because really it's just retread of Metroid Fusion except lamer and crappier.

I see your point, but I feel like text in an elevator is a whole lot less intrusive than the cut scenes in Other M and MP3 (though I could be misremembering in MP3). I think you have more of a point with the overt segmentation in Fusion - but for whatever reason I'm still able to enjoy that game.

The list thing, real quick: Super Metroid > Metroid Prime > Zero Mission > Prime 2 > Fusion > Metroid 2 > Metroid > Prime 3 > Other M
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Originally Posted by Lunar15

Side Note: I just clicked on your member title out of curiosity, and it took me to an Other M hype page. Man, the difference between then and now...

I still like it. Shame the story turned so many people off, but I seriously appreciated the 2.5D gameplay aspect and fast combat.
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(12-13-2013, 03:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hiccup

Heh. I just realized this. Wow. It really is Fusion.

I started playing Fusion well after I played Other M, and my first thought was, "Wow, so this is where all that nonsense started."

Luckily, Fusion actually managed to still turn into a good game despite the hand holding and order following. "Go to this sector. Now go to this sector."

Originally Posted by Malvingt2

So why renewed Metroid Prime when Metroid still active?

Because Metroid Prime is not.
Dascu
(12-13-2013, 03:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Malvingt2

So why renewed Metroid Prime when Metroid still active?

Because Metroid is not Metroid Prime. They haven't been using, advertizing or publishing new Prime games for a while now, so the association to Nintendo is a lot less strong than the franchise in general.

My main point is that trademark renewal means absolutely nothing and is not some kind of hint that they're working on a new product, unless they suddenly revive an old IP from over ten years ago.
Malvingt2
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(12-13-2013, 03:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Htown



Because Metroid Prime is not.

duh

Originally Posted by Dascu

Because Metroid is not Metroid Prime. They haven't been using, advertizing or publishing new Prime games for a while now, so the association to Nintendo is a lot less strong than the franchise in general.

My main point is that trademark renewal means absolutely nothing and is not some kind of hint that they're working on a new product, unless they suddenly revive an old IP from over ten years ago.

I see, I get your point. Thanks for sharing the info.
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(12-13-2013, 03:25 PM)
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So I could have been selling Metroid Prime hamburgers this entire time?
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(12-13-2013, 03:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tadale

I see your point, but I feel like text in an elevator is a whole lot less intrusive than the cut scenes in Other M and MP3 (though I could be misremembering in MP3). I think you have more of a point with the overt segmentation in Fusion - but for whatever reason I'm still able to enjoy that game.

The list thing, real quick: Super Metroid > Metroid Prime > Zero Mission > Prime 2 > Fusion > Metroid 2 > Metroid > Prime 3 > Other M

You're most likely misremembering MP3. It has some dialogue in the beginning to set the tone and story for the rest of the game. Then it becomes a Metroid Prime game just like the previous two ones, except now you're jumping from planet to planet instead of area to area. WHile that does make it a bit more segmented, it doesn't really end up feeling different. I just treat the spacetravel as elevators/portals from the previous games.

I found it to be the strongest entry in the Trilogy(granted, not by much at all).
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(12-13-2013, 03:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mumford

So does this mean there could potentially be a Prime HD Collection?

I WANT THAT
Zalman
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(12-13-2013, 03:28 PM)
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I think it's obvious they're going to make a Prime 4 after Donkey Kong. I just want to know whether Retro Studios have two teams or not. They confirmed some time ago that they only had one, but when Geoff asked them at VGX the guy said "can't say" as if it's suddenly a secret.
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Originally Posted by Mumford

So does this mean there could potentially be a Prime HD Collection?

There always has been a potential to see Metroid Prime HD, but you know, Nintendo n all, we ain't gonna see it any time soon.
Mael
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(12-13-2013, 03:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Hiccup

Heh. I just realized this. Wow. It really is Fusion.

Seriously, it's actually way worse since at least something is resolved by the end of Fusion.
Here nothing is solved, there's not even a real reason why Samus is even there and really nothing would have been lost if she skipped town and ignored the distress signal.
Heck there's only 1 thing that's remotely interesting in this whole mess :
the small metroid Samus saved in Metroid 2 was a larvae metroid with queen potential, the rest is absolute garbage and goes nowhere.

Originally Posted by Tadale

I see your point, but I feel like text in an elevator is a whole lot less intrusive than the cut scenes in Other M and MP3 (though I could be misremembering in MP3). I think you have more of a point with the overt segmentation in Fusion - but for whatever reason I'm still able to enjoy that game.

The list thing, real quick: Super Metroid > Metroid Prime > Zero Mission > Prime 2 > Fusion > Metroid 2 > Metroid > Prime 3 > Other M

You misremember, only the start of MP3 is like that, it's straight up a Prime game when you get the phazon enhanced suit.
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Originally Posted by Zalman

I think it's obvious they're going to make a Prime 4 after Donkey Kong. I just want to know whether Retro Studios have two teams or not. They confirmed some time ago that they only had one, but when Geoff asked them at VGX the guy said "can't say" as if it's suddenly a secret.

My guess is that the poor guy had a 30 second "Media Training" that consisted of "DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT DONKEY KONG OR ELSE REGGIE WILL EAT YOU."

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(12-13-2013, 04:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mumford

So does this mean there could potentially be a Prime HD Collection?

I would pay so much money for this!

Despite owning the Wii collection already.
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(12-13-2013, 04:16 PM)
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They always do this. Didn't they recently renew Eternal Darkness TM as well?
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(12-13-2013, 04:20 PM)
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Don't look into this too much.
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Originally Posted by Mumford

So does this mean there could potentially be a Prime HD Collection?


I could see them doing this, much like Windwaker HD, to keep series Hype up while they work on the next installment. It would be interesting to see how they retool the motion-based Prime 3 for the Wii U Gamepad.
Madao
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(12-13-2013, 05:30 PM)
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so, if the discussion here is true, can someone go and sweep F-Zero from nintendo? it doesn't look like they have renewed that ever.
Malvingt2
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Originally Posted by Madao

so, if the discussion here is true, can someone go and sweep F-Zero from nintendo? it doesn't look like they have renewed that ever.

It got renewed in 2012

http://www.trademarkia.com/fzero-74088446.html
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(12-14-2013, 02:47 PM)
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Metroid Prime Trilogy for 3DS
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Originally Posted by Mumford

So does this mean there could potentially be a Prime HD Collection?

Seems the most likely product to be released. Or a 3DS game in the Prime series.
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(12-14-2013, 02:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mumford

So does this mean there could potentially be a Prime HD Collection?

Metroid Prime Trilogy HD would be sooo nice...oh, or maybe Metroid Prime Hunters 2 is in the works for the 3DS. I know that NST was hiring more people who had knowledge in the online space some time ago.
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Originally Posted by Malvingt2

It got renewed in 2012

http://www.trademarkia.com/fzero-74088446.html

welp. this confirms the speculation in the whole thread is for nothing and Metroid is still dead.
Qurupeke
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Just make a Metroid Prime 4 or Metroid Prime HD collection or w/e Metroid.
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Originally Posted by 73V3N

Metroid Prime Trilogy for 3DS

Ew, no. The downgrades would be too severe. WiiU HD Trilogy or Prime 4 pls and thx.

But really I don't think this means anything concrete, sadly.
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Originally Posted by Lunar15

Patents are always renewed. Unfortunately, this is nothing.

Totally nothing. So nothing that you don't even know the difference between a patent and a trademark.
Orniletter
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I just want a new Metroid game :(

Prime, 2D, I donīt care.

I just donīt want it to play like Other M.

That was imo the biggest crime of Other M: The gameplay was really bad.

I could ignore the story, but the gameplay was inexcusable.
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(12-14-2013, 08:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by NotMyRealName

Isn't this common practice, renewing trademarks?

Yes, it is. The trademark owner has to renew the trademark every ten years if they want to keep it. Nothing of note here.
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Maybe there's some specifically Metroid Prime stuff in Smash?
Lunar15
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Originally Posted by runnin_blue

Totally nothing. So nothing that you don't even know the difference between a patent and a trademark.

Oops, accidentally said patent instead of trademark.

It's still nothing though! Thanks for your charming attitude in helping me correct my mistake.
castlemadeofsand
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(12-14-2013, 09:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Hiccup

Heh. I just realized this. Wow. It really is Fusion.

except fusion is amazing and other m is mediocre

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