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richisawesome
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(12-29-2013, 10:39 PM)
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Not sure if this has been posted as a thread before, but it's a bit of a megaton. At the recent hacker's conference, a team displayed their findings on the Wii U gamepad.

Essentially, they've cracked it, and got it streaming from a PC. They showed off emulators (including dolphin) running great with full gamepad support.

Originally Posted by schwupp

the slides of the talk are online:
https://docs.google.com/presentation...rue#slide=id.p

video:
http://koeln.ftp.media.ccc.de/congre...h264-iprod.mp4

demo starts around 47 minutes

You know what this means? PC support = steam support. Steam support = DARK SOULS 2 ON THE GAMEPAD
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Birathen
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(12-29-2013, 10:42 PM)
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I knew WiiU was gonna get Dark Souls 2 indirect
richisawesome
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(12-29-2013, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Birathen

I knew WiiU was gonna get Dark Souls 2 indirect

hilariously, this means that the Wii U will technically get next gen gaming, with PS4 level of graphics

providing you have a decent PC of course
abtom
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(12-29-2013, 10:43 PM)
PC gaming on that piss poor WVGA display. Can't wait.
Ysiadmihi
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(12-29-2013, 10:43 PM)
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Holy shit, this is great.
BennyBlanco
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(12-29-2013, 10:43 PM)
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great news if you want to use that awful screen and have every game look like shit

i'd rather buy a shield especially since you can't buy these on their own, but also i don't want a shield
Crimsonclaw111
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(12-29-2013, 10:43 PM)
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It's too bad they don't sell the gamepad separately. I can't wait to try this out if it gets released publicly.
RealityExists
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(12-29-2013, 10:43 PM)
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now how do I get a gamepad without buying a wii u?

will probably buy a wii u when it hits $150-200
richisawesome
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(12-29-2013, 10:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by BennyBlanco

great news if you want to use that awful screen and have every game look like shit

i'd rather buy a shield especially since you can't buy these on their own, but also i don't want a shield

...Why would I want to spend that much money? Plenty of people have a Wii U, and this is a cheap if not free way for them to get remote play PC gaming.

And it's not an awful screen. As shitty as the Wii U may be in many respects, remote play is fantastic.
Zomba13
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(12-29-2013, 10:44 PM)
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Oh shit. Steam little picture mode!
BronsonLee
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(12-29-2013, 10:44 PM)
PARTY TIME! Oooh
DashReindeer
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(12-29-2013, 10:45 PM)
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Yes, I am very interested in this proposition.
Orayn
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(12-29-2013, 10:45 PM)
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I'll jump through the necessary hoops to use this as soon as it's in a somewhat usable state. Off-TV play for my entire Steam library, here we come!

Originally Posted by BennyBlanco

great news if you want to use that awful screen and have every game look like shit

i'd rather buy a shield especially since you can't buy these on their own, but also i don't want a shield

It's a decent proposition if you already own a Wii U, however.
Glass Rebel
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(12-29-2013, 10:46 PM)
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well, fuck

I don't have to rebuy indie games on Vita anymore.
Alistair Roo
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(12-29-2013, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by abtom

PC gaming on that piss poor WVGA display. Can't wait.

There's always one...
Mushroomer25
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(12-29-2013, 10:46 PM)
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Sweet. I guess I just indirectly bought an NVidia Shield.
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(12-29-2013, 10:46 PM)
I want this
Mr. Macintosh!!
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(12-29-2013, 10:46 PM)
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Is it be possible for me to legally use my Wii U gamepad as a controller for my PC, much like I would use an Xbox controller on my PC? Because I wouldn't want to risk bricking the console or voiding the warranty.
BennyBlanco
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(12-29-2013, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by richisawesome

...Why would I want to spend that much money? Plenty of people have a Wii U, and this is a cheap if not free way for them to get remote play PC gaming.

And it's not an awful screen. As shitty as the Wii U may be in many respects, remote play is fantastic.

yea, if you have a wii u this would be cool

the screen certainly is awful though
richisawesome
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(12-29-2013, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Macintosh!!

Is it be possible for me to legally use my Wii U gamepad as a controller for my PC, much like I would use an Xbox controller on my PC? Because I wouldn't want to risk bricking the console or voiding the warranty.

of course its bloody legal

you won't have to modify anything. the pc just pretends to be a Wii U.
vazel
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(12-29-2013, 10:47 PM)
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I hope it has the same low latency as it does when paired with the Wii U. Because that is its only advantage over the Shield
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FrostuTheNinja
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(12-29-2013, 10:47 PM)
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I wonder if Nintendo will try to shut this down...

Because I need it.
StealthxHawk
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(12-29-2013, 10:47 PM)
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Um... Are there 3ds emulators??... Idea...
richisawesome
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(12-29-2013, 10:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by StealthxHawk

Um... Are there 3ds emulators??... Idea...

Nope. 3DS hasn't been cracked, impressively.

Originally Posted by FrostuTheNinja

I wonder if Nintendo will try to shut this down...

Why on earth would they? It's not modifying any of their hardware in any way, and it has a chance of actually selling the Wii U to people more than Nintendo could ever do.
EvilKatarn
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(12-29-2013, 10:47 PM)
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That is awesome. Might even think about getting it in that case. Would play so much more emulated stuff.
Alistair Roo
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(12-29-2013, 10:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by richisawesome

of course its bloody legal

you won't have to modify anything. the pc just pretends to be a Wii U.

I laughed.
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(12-29-2013, 10:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by richisawesome

hilariously, this means that the Wii U will technically get next gen gaming, with PS4 level of graphics

providing you have a decent PC of course

That's like saying that remote play gives the Vita next gen gaming, with PS4 level of graphics, provided you own a PS4.
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Nice.
Was only a matter of time really.
AppleMIX
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(12-29-2013, 10:49 PM)
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Oh man, that's great. Now to get a WiiU controller.
SummitAve
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(12-29-2013, 10:49 PM)
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This would be incredible. Love using the gamepad.
Cbajd5
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(12-29-2013, 10:49 PM)
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I haven't watched the talk yet (downloading it now) and only glanced through the slides, but are they anywhere near the reverse as well? That is, streaming gamepad video to some PC program instead of the gamepad?

That'd be cool for streaming Wii games at least, and if there was some control setup it'd be cool Wii U streaming too.

i can still use it as a tv remote too right
Volotaire
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(12-29-2013, 10:49 PM)
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This is awesome. As I'll be getting a Wii U eventually, it'll be great to use this.
ImNotSteven
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(12-29-2013, 10:49 PM)
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I am a happy Wii U owner.
Nyoro SF
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(12-29-2013, 10:50 PM)
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My body is ready for this.
richisawesome
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(12-29-2013, 10:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by LiquidSolid

That's like saying that remote play gives the Vita next gen gaming, with PS4 level of graphics, provided you own a PS4.

You know full well what I mean.

You'll be able to play future EA games via the Wii U gamepad. that's hilarious.
PlumCantaloupe
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(12-29-2013, 10:50 PM)
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This is amazing for the PC/WiiU combo gaming individuals. I can't wait to try this out ... hope it is easy to switch back and forth between WiiU and PC.
Skyzard
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(12-29-2013, 10:50 PM)
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If it can switch between the Wii U and PC without too much tinkering then it might be pretty useful despite screen/battery. I assume it's not restricted compatibility like with Shield.
dancrane212
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(12-29-2013, 10:50 PM)
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I've built up quite the collection of point and click adventure games over the years and this would be a wonderful way to play them. Hopefully it isn't too far off!
Son Of D
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(12-29-2013, 10:51 PM)
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Would this also include watching video files on the GamePad? Because watching films and shows that I've backed up on the GamePad sounds very nice.
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(12-29-2013, 10:51 PM)
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That's very neat. I wouldn't want to use it personally since I'm rather particular about my screens, but if you're less hung up about IQ it could be a nice added benefit of the Wii U for PC gamers.

Originally Posted by vazel

I hope it has the same low latency as it does when paired with the Wii U. Because that is its only advantage over the Shield.

It's unlikely to have lower latency than Shield. Latency is introduced at the encoding and transmission stages, not primarily the decoding stage, and Shield encodes on the GPU (while using the same transmission hardware).

Originally Posted by richisawesome

PC support = steam support.

:O Would buy a standalone Wii U GamePad to be able to play games on the GamePad from Steam. :O :O :O
richisawesome
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(12-29-2013, 10:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Son Of D

Would this also include watching video files on the GamePad? Because watching films and shows that I've backed up on the GamePad sounds very nice.

I'm assuming it would work as a second monitor, so yes. XBMC would be glorious with it.
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(12-29-2013, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by richisawesome

Nope. 3DS hasn't been cracked, impressively.



Why on earth would they? It's not modifying any of their hardware in any way, and it has a chance of actually selling the Wii U to people more than Nintendo could ever do.

A Gamepad firmware replacement is in the To-Do list though, I'm guessing Nintendo won't let that one fly.
Nilaul
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(12-29-2013, 10:53 PM)
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Cool I will use it for drawing :-)
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(12-29-2013, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by richisawesome

Nope. 3DS hasn't been cracked, impressively.



Why on earth would they? It's not modifying any of their hardware in any way, and it has a chance of actually selling the Wii U to people more than Nintendo could ever do.

The pad has its own firmware updated automatically whenever ninty say so, it'll be blocked in weeks.
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(12-29-2013, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Skyzard

If it can switch between the Wii U and PC without too much tinkering then it might be pretty useful despite screen/battery. I assume it's not restricted compatibility like with Shield.

I'd imagine it's just require syncing the Gamepad with the PC/Wii U whenever you switched, unless they're overwriting the Gamepad's firmware or something.

Still got 10~11 minutes until I can watch the talk...
Holy Order Sol
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(12-29-2013, 10:54 PM)
Never expected this, seems obvious in hindsight now. XD
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(12-29-2013, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by richisawesome

...Why would I want to spend that much money? Plenty of people have a Wii U, and this is a cheap if not free way for them to get remote play PC gaming.

And it's not an awful screen. As shitty as the Wii U may be in many respects, remote play is fantastic.

Not even close to remote play. Don't confuse the two.
richisawesome
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(12-29-2013, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by -MB-

A Gamepad firmware replacement is in the To-Do list though, I'm guessing Nintendo won't let that one fly.

Just like how they didn't let the Wii homebrew channel fly?

Last I checked that's still widely available. Uses original code, so there's absolutely naff all Nintendo can do.
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(12-29-2013, 10:54 PM)
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gimme dat gamepad spelunky

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