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Batzi
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(01-16-2014, 05:00 AM)
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Looks like rescuing Chico is not the main mission. Reuniting with either Chico or Paz is one mission while the "Ground Zeroes" mission seems to be something bigger than that. And having the choice to meet Paz or Chico first is freaking awesome! Wonder how that will affect the story! DAMN IT KOJIMA!!!!!



Beant
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(01-16-2014, 05:03 AM)
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Looks like 2 Missions, 6 Side-Ops and 1 Extra-Op - assuming every op/mission has an achievement associated with it.
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Mellahan
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(01-16-2014, 05:05 AM)
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Maaaan. This is gonna be short.
Batzi
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(01-16-2014, 05:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Beant

Looks like 2 Missions, 6 Side-Ops and 1 Extra-Op - assuming every op/mission has an achievement associated with it.

I knew that rescuing Chico was not the only mission in GZ. It is obvious that things develops and Big Boss faces a bigger threat that he had to deal with, thus the "Ground Zeroes" mission.
dragonbane
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(01-16-2014, 05:07 AM)
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2 missions, rest side-ops, trials and collectibles? I don't think so Kojima sorry.
Batzi
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(01-16-2014, 05:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mellahan

Maaaan. This is gonna be short.

How could you possibly tell that? A mission can take hours if it develops into several objectives. The story obviously won't be about rescuing Chico or Paz only. The situation develops after that.
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(01-16-2014, 05:10 AM)
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I dont know, honestly a new Metal Gear Kojima game for next gen systems is like, something i thought wasnt gonna happen after the glorious MGS4. So im pretty hype.
Gouda Jouji
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(01-16-2014, 05:11 AM)
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There's only 1 main mission. "Ground Zeroes" is it. Where is the 2 coming from?
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(01-16-2014, 05:11 AM)
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There doesn't seem to be anything particularly spoilery in those achievements. At least nothing we haven't know since 2010...which makes me wonder if there are going to even be any real surprises with GZ?
Love Deterrence
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(01-16-2014, 05:12 AM)
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I'm interested in learning more about the Trials. How many "trials" will there be? What kinds of missions will they have the player carry out? Kojima mentioned that they would use Global Leaderboards, so I'm very interested in finding out more about that, and soon!
Sub_Level
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(01-16-2014, 05:13 AM)
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As an mgs fan of course im excited for the story. But this installment just seems yawn-inducing.
Averon
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(01-16-2014, 05:13 AM)

Originally Posted by dragonbane

2 missions, rest side-ops, trials and collectibles? I don't think so Kojima sorry.

Yeah. Konami's not doing a good job to dismiss the notion that this is a $30-$40 demo.
Batzi
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(01-16-2014, 05:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Not Spaceghost

There doesn't seem to be anything particularly spoilery in those achievements. At least nothing we haven't know since 2010...which makes me wonder if there are going to even be any real surprises with GZ?

Trophies/Achievements aren't suppose to spoil the story. But the first one is kinda "spoilery" if you'd ask me. Choosing to rescue Paz before Chico or vice versa seems to affect the way the story is told.
Baust
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(01-16-2014, 05:14 AM)
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"Obtain all XOF Unit Patches" sounds interesting to me.

I wonder if it's similar to the dog tag collecting from MGS2?
Family Fry
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(01-16-2014, 05:15 AM)
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Also 1100g?
Is there some add on mission DLC or something, I thought all Xbox games had to be 1000g?
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(01-16-2014, 05:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Batzi

Trophies/Achievements aren't suppose to spoil the story. But the first one is kinda "spoilery" if you'd ask me. Choosing to rescue Paz before Chico or vice versa seems to affect the way the story is told.

Kinda maybe, but we've always known that you would rescue at least Chico since the recent gameplay footage and Paz from the 2010 trailer.

I mean if you look at MGS2 or 3 or even Peace Walker's achievements they've got a lot more stuff about main story points. Maybe Kojima is going for a TLoU achievement distribution this time around? Where you only get achievements at the very end?
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(01-16-2014, 05:16 AM)
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I want the one where Big Boss shotguns the flaming horse.
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(01-16-2014, 05:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Averon

Yeah. Konami's not doing a good job to dismiss the notion that this is a $30-$40 demo.

Why would they dismiss what's true?
RangerBAD
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(01-16-2014, 05:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Batzi

How could you possibly tell that? A mission can take hours if it develops into several objectives. The story obviously won't be about rescuing Chico or Paz only. The situation develops after that.

There's only one story mission as we all predicted. So unless you plan on doing everything, and not just the story stuff, it's not going to be more than 2-3 hours long.

I see four Side-Ops and one Extra-Op (content exclusive mission). So I guess you could add another 2-3 hours to that if you do that stuff. Then there's the miscellaneous stuff. Depending on how the game saves (if it saves after every cassette tape you get and you can exit the Op), then maybe another 2 hours. So we're looking at 7-8 hours to 100%, give or take?

Edit: I see those trials, so I guess it depends on what those are to see what they add to a time total for 100%. I'd guess they're basically VR missions.
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kasane
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(01-16-2014, 05:17 AM)
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Yes Paz is in game.

Based kojima
Sub_Level
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(01-16-2014, 05:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Baust

"Obtain all XOF Unit Patches" sounds interesting to me.

I wonder if it's similar to the dog tag collecting from MGS2?

Hopefully. Its mentioned in the Xbox Raiden trailer.
Zabant
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(01-16-2014, 05:18 AM)
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I'm still salty about the whole xbox exclusive raiden thing.
foxtrot3d
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(01-16-2014, 05:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Love Deterrence

I'm interested in learning more about the Trials. How many "trials" will there be? What kinds of missions will they have the player carry out? Kojima mentioned that they would use Global Leaderboards, so I'm very interested in finding out more about that, and soon!

Probably time trials or accuracy tests. I assume it will be similar to the sort of side op trials that were in Peace Walker.

EDIT:

As far as GZ itself, I think we all knew that we are essentially paying $40 for what is akin to the Tanker Chapter or Virtuous Mission. And while those short missions themselves had amazing replay value they are short. I really don't like the GZ mission being broken apart from the main game, they should go together. At least the Tanker Chapter demo gave you an actual game, ZOE, for $50.
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Foffy
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(01-16-2014, 05:20 AM)
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So, this really is a demo. Damn...pretty overpriced, haha.
Carl
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(01-16-2014, 05:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Not Spaceghost

There doesn't seem to be anything particularly spoilery in those achievements. At least nothing we haven't know since 2010...which makes me wonder if there are going to even be any real surprises with GZ?

You'll be surprised Konami got so much moneg out of you for it
Jigorath
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(01-16-2014, 05:20 AM)
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I'll wait to see how long these 2 missions are before I buy it. A $15 price tag would have been ideal for this sort of thing, not sure if they have the content to justify a $40 purchase.
Arsenic
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(01-16-2014, 05:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zabant

I'm still salty about the whole xbox exclusive raiden thing.

Whoa say what? I did not hear of this.

Also, did they explain what we get if the retail version was purchased instead of digital?
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(01-16-2014, 05:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by FusionCode

I'll wait to see how long these 2 missions are before I buy it. A $15 price tag would have been ideal for this sort of thing, not sure if they have the content to justify a $40 purchase.

Gotta Kickstart the rest of MGSV! Game isn't going to pay for itself. Konami has no other hits anyway so they gotta triple dip on the only international success they have left. Loooool.
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(01-16-2014, 05:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by FusionCode

I'll wait to see how long these 2 missions are before I buy it. A $15 price tag would have been ideal for this sort of thing, not sure if they have the content to justify a $40 purchase.

You can always youtube the cutscenes and wait for a price drop! Also the digital versions are $30.
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(01-16-2014, 05:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by kasane

Yes Paz is in game.

Based kojima

This is basically required for me to link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO_5R_DMCJA
Inorigo
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(01-16-2014, 05:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Batzi

How could you possibly tell that? A mission can take hours if it develops into several objectives. The story obviously won't be about rescuing Chico or Paz only. The situation develops after that.

They can any point throw up a "To be continued..." screen just because of what Ground Zeroes is.

I think it's very likely "Ground Zeroes" is the only story mission in the game.
Family Fry
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(01-16-2014, 05:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Arsenic

Whoa say what? I did not hear of this.

Also, did they explain what we get if the retail version was purchased instead of digital?

The mission 'Jamais Vu' is an Xbox exclusive level where you play as Raiden.
Order
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(01-16-2014, 05:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Family Fry

The mission 'Jamais Vu' is an Xbox exclusive level where you play as Raiden.

This exclusive DLC needs to end
Arsenic
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(01-16-2014, 05:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Family Fry

The mission 'Jamais Vu' is an Xbox exclusive level where you play as Raiden.

Crazy. I hate split content between game versions. Any word of what PS users would get?
Blader
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(01-16-2014, 05:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Batzi

I knew that rescuing Chico was not the only mission in GZ. It is obvious that things develops and Big Boss faces a bigger threat that he had to deal with, thus the "Ground Zeroes" mission.

"Reunion" - rescue Chicao/Paz
"Ground Zeroes" - escape Camp Omega

It's all the one mission we've seen a hundred times already.
jbug617
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(01-16-2014, 05:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Arsenic

Whoa say what? I did not hear of this.

Here is the trailer announcement for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-afMxILwxM
RangerBAD
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(01-16-2014, 05:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Arsenic

Crazy. I hate split content between game versions. Any word of what PS users would get?

Classic Snake Skin.



(This is an accurate example of what the Snake skin looks like in GZ. :p)
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(01-16-2014, 05:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Arsenic

Crazy. I hate split content between game versions. Any word of what PS users would get?

Deja Vu - You get to play as PS1 MGS1 Solid Snake (pixelated low-res textures).
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(01-16-2014, 05:27 AM)
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'Reunite with Chico *or* Paz' is pretty interesting. I think we've all assumed that the main mission in GZ would be infiltrating the base, finding Chico, then having him tell you where Paz is, rescuing her, moseying on out again, explosions. This seems to suggest you might be able to find Paz first. I wonder if there's any variability to the mission itself, or if you can just find her through exploration.
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(01-16-2014, 05:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Batzi

Looks like rescuing Chico is not the main mission. Reuniting with either Chico or Paz is one mission while the "Ground Zeroes" mission seems to be something bigger than that.

Wat?
Ground Zeroes is the name of the mission that begins with the Skullface scene, they've shown this quite openly. The Downfall trophy icon shows a burning Mother Base tower, so no surprises in how that ends.
Inorigo
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(01-16-2014, 05:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blader

"Reunion" - rescue Chicao/Paz
"Ground Zeroes" - escape Camp Omega

It's all the one mission we've seen a hundred times already.

Yep.

"Infiltrate one environment, escape the aforementioned environment, credits rollback fun with Side Ops and Extra Ops, which are probably basically the same thing!"

I'm good, Konami. I'm good.
Arsenic
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(01-16-2014, 05:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by jbug617

Here is the trailer announcement for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-afMxILwxM

Originally Posted by RangerBAD

Classic Snake Skin.



(This is an accurate example of what the Snake skin looks like in GZ. :p)

Originally Posted by duckroll

Deja Vu - You get to play as PS1 MGS1 Solid Snake (pixelated low-res textures).

So PS gets a skin, XBOX gets a whole mission?

Can't wait to see the gamespot/amazon/best buy exclusive bullshit too.
Sub_Level
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(01-16-2014, 05:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blader

"Reunion" - rescue Chicao/Paz
"Ground Zeroes" - escape Camp Omega

It's all the one mission we've seen a hundred times already.

Well, you have to escape Camp Omega with any prisoner you get, not just Chico/Paz. So not sure about that. Its possible GZ will be the Mother Base assault scenario, but who knows that just might be a cutscene or might only be in Phantom Pain.
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(01-16-2014, 05:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by matrix-cat

'Reunite with Chico *or* Paz' is pretty interesting. I think we've all assumed that the main mission in GZ would be infiltrating the base, finding Chico, then having him tell you where Paz is, rescuing her, moseying on out again, explosions. This seems to suggest you might be able to find Paz first. I wonder if there's any variability to the mission itself, or if you can just find her through exploration.

Yeah I thought the same, you're instructed to go and find Chico and shown where he is, I guess it justifies the 'openess' they're going for.
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(01-16-2014, 05:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by Arsenic

So PS gets a skin, XBOX gets a whole mission?

Can't wait to see the gamespot/amazon/best buy exclusive bullshit too.

No they're both missions. You play as that skin in the mission.
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(01-16-2014, 05:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Inorigo

Yep.

"Infiltrate one environment, escape the aforementioned environment, credits rollback fun with Side Ops and Extra Ops, which are probably basically the same thing!"

I'm good, Konami. I'm good.

Yeah, this puts a lot of stuff to rest. I'll wait for Phantom Pain. I like to eat the whole steak not just one bite for nearly the same price, Konami.
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(01-16-2014, 05:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

No they're both missions. You play as that skin in the mission.

Just watched the trailer. Not just a skin if you can play as raiden with his ninja abilities. I see this being another Soul Caliber IV-type fiasco
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(01-16-2014, 05:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by RangerBAD

Yeah, this puts a lot of stuff to rest. I'll wait for Phantom Pain. I like to eat the whole steak not just one bite for nearly the same price, Konami.

There is no confirmation that GZ will be in PP if thats what you're implying. Metal Gear Online will be included tho.
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(01-16-2014, 05:34 AM)
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RE: DLC/bonus content. If you've not played Peace Walker it might seem a bit odd, but think of Ground Zeroes the location as kinda like a template. You'll have the main Ground Zeroes story mission, scripted and set the way KojiPro intended. And then you'll have the side missions, which are activated separately and use the Ground Zeroes template with alteration for the new objective. Stuff like a different time of day, weather effects, enemy types, location, and patrols, available equipment, etc.

The DLC/bonus stuff is that. You have a new skin to play as, Classic Snake or Raiden, and the Ground Zeroes location is rejigged with new mission design and parameters.
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(01-16-2014, 05:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sub_Level

There is no confirmation that GZ will be in PP if thats what you're implying. Metal Gear Online will be included tho.

I'm not saying that, but I do think it's an eventuality. I'm just saying I'd rather get a full game and PP is that, with or without GZ included.

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