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atomsk
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(01-20-2014, 07:10 PM)
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UPDATE 7 (final?) (via Polygon)

"The guides are guidance to help advertisers and endorsers comply with federal advertising law," said Betsy Lordan, with the FTC Office of Public Affairs. "They are not legally enforceable, and there are no monetary penalties or penalties of any kind associated with them."

The FTC isn't conducting any research into the use of their guidelines for endorsements, Lordan said. She declined to say if the FTC had any active investigations into game publishers over breach of the federal advertising law. Under FTC rules, the commission does not confirm investigations until they are complete and then, only if there are wrongdoings found.

UPDATE 6 So the Machinima show Inside Gaming weighs in on this ... and they gloss over the issues and point to the EA story. Is anyone falling for this?



UPDATE 5: CBOAT HATH SPOKEN

al contaracts are veted by legal tho. Usualy multipel timse.

UPDATE 4 (via Game Informer)

"Microsoft was not aware of individual contracts Machinima had with their content providers as part of this promotion and we didn’t provide feedback on any of the videos," a Microsoft representative told us via email. "We have asked Machinima to not post any additional Xbox One content as part of this media buy and we have asked them to add disclaimers to the videos that were part of this program indicating they were part of paid advertising.”

UPDATE 3 (via Ohhword)

We execute large network wide activations routinely and, where part of a promotional campaign, typically require channel partners to include certain language in their video content relating to the promotion. That didn’t happen here and we’re evaluating why. All participants are being asked today to include our standard language going-forward. We apologize for the error and any confusion.

UPDATE 2 (via IGN)

Update: Regarding Microsoft's involvement in its YouTube promotion, Machinima told IGN, "This partnership between Machinima and Microsoft was a typical marketing partnership to promote Xbox One in December. The Xbox team does not review any specific content or provide feedback on content. Any confidentiality provisions, terms or other guidelines are standard documents provided by Machinima. For clarity, confidentiality relates to the agreements themselves, not the existence of the promotion."

Ars is reporting on this

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/0...-one-mentions/

This weekend, word started leaking of a new promotion offering Machinima video partners an additional $3 CPM (i.e., $3 per thousand video views) for posting videos featuring Xbox One content. The promotion was advertised by Machinima's UK community manager in a since-deleted tweet, and it also appears on Machinima's activity feed on Poptent, a clearinghouse for these kind of video marketing campaigns. The Poptent page also mentions an earlier campaign surrounding the Xbox One's launch in November, which offered an additional $1 CPM for videos "promoting the Xbox One and its release games."

According to a leaked copy of the full legal agreement behind the promotion, video creators "may not say anything negative or disparaging about Machinima, Xbox One, or any of its Games" and must keep the details of the promotional agreement confidential in order to qualify for payment. In other words, to get the money, video makers have to speak positively (or at least neutrally) about the Xbox One, and they can't say they're being paid to do so.

The arrangement as described might go against the FTC's guidelines for the use of endorsements in advertising, which demand full disclosure when there is "a connection between the endorser and the seller of the advertised product that might materially affect the weight or credibility of the endorsement."

UPDATE: Why I leaked the XB1M13 agreement

The Machinima UK dude has deleted his twitter account, someone else snatched it immediately

more confirmation this happened


additionally Northernlion confirmed on reddit that Machinima usually allows or requires FULL DISCLOSURE

additional sites reporting,
Polygon
Kotaku
Joystiq (who completely misses the point)
PC World
LA Business Journal
CinemaBlend
Yahoo
Destructoid
The Verge
Gamespot
GameTrailers
Forbes (contributor)
Media Minions (German)
IGN (had to wait for AU to wake up to report on this? c'mon now)
Metro
Eurogamer
Gizmodo UK
Spiegel (German)
Gamer.no (Norwegian)
Slashdot
Paul Thurrott
The Guardian
CNET
Wired UK
Escapist
Huffington Post
Game Informer
Wall Street Journal
Techdirt

Reddit thread from a Machinima partner

The Final Bosman: Xbox Friends with Benefits (starting 2:20)

Youtubers condemning/discussing
Boogie2988, video 2
AlphaOmegaSin
FarFromSubtle
TotalBiscuit
Nerd Alert
Address the Sess (with ReconXBL, TotalBiscuit, Jason Schreier, and more)

for clarity, here is the original NeoGAF thread

Aquamarine does the detective work on who participated in this campaign

timeline by serversurfer

The timeline as we know it:

1. Machinima broker promos wherein the agreement states tubers must disclose they received promotional consideration, in compliance with FTC regulations.
2. Machinima broker a promo for MS wherein the agreement seems to indicate tubers must not disclose they received promotional consideration, in violation of FTC regulations.
3. Tubers create promos without disclosing they received promotional consideration, in violation of FTC regulations.
4. Machinima broadcast the promos created without disclosing they received promotional consideration, in violation of FTC regulations.
5. Machinima claim that despite the agreement's apparent admonition to deceive, the tubers' explicit deception, and Machinima's explicit deception, no deception was intended and we just didn't understand the agreement.
6. Machinima further clarify that despite the fact that everything was legit until MS showed up, MS had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this, especially the changes made to the disclosure stipulation, since no changes to the disclosure stipulation were ever made.
7. Machinima further clarify that okay, yes, changes were made to the disclosure stipulation, but it was an accident and they don't know what happened.

and some fine reading if you've got the time: PR And The Game Media: How PR Shapes What You Think About Games
Last edited by atomsk; 01-23-2014 at 03:16 PM. Reason: timeline added
Chobel
I shouldn't make bets because every time I do my tag gets worse
(01-20-2014, 08:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by atomsk

Ars is reporting on this

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/0...-one-mentions/

Really curious to see if anyone dependent on ad dollars and coverage/access from MS will report on this (*cough*Polygon*cough*)

Oh man!

That's not the case, however. According to a leaked copy of the full legal agreement behind the promotion, video creators "may not say anything negative or disparaging about Machinima, Xbox One, or any of its Games" and must keep the details of the promotional agreement confidential in order to qualify for payment. In other words, to get the money, video makers have to speak positively (or at least neutrally) about the Xbox One, and they can't say they're being paid to do so.

This is fucked up.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
(01-20-2014, 08:21 PM)
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Wow... , just... wow!
Einbroch
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(01-20-2014, 08:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by atomsk

Ars is reporting on this

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/0...-one-mentions/

Really curious to see if anyone dependent on ad dollars and coverage/access from MS will report on this (*cough*Polygon*cough*)

Now we're in full-on illegal territory, right?
Metalingus5150
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(01-20-2014, 08:25 PM)
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So they ARE bribing people.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
(01-20-2014, 08:28 PM)
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So, Jschreier, how about that article now. :P
weevles
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(01-20-2014, 08:29 PM)
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Wait, what? How can you get legally get paid by a company to only say good things about it and not disclose that you're getting paid to say good things about it?

Also, I need a youtube channel. I'll say whatever you want if you pay me enough. :p
atomsk
Party Pooper
(01-20-2014, 08:33 PM)
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looks like I spoke too soon and Polygon has reported about it, sourcing the Ars article

still nothing from IGN, Gamespot, Game Informer, etc

I only saw the Ars article cause Gerstmann retweeted it, so I'm guessing Klepek is on the case (if he can tear himself away from complaining about MGS character design)
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jaypah
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(01-20-2014, 08:34 PM)
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So many fuck ups, so little time. It's like they refuse to acknowledge how the real world works, from every angle. They act like fucking aliens! "Oh so this idea it is no good?" Like, wtf MS?
Nokterian
always look on the bright side of STRIFE
...and LOL
...and DOTA2
(01-20-2014, 08:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chobel

Oh man!


This is fucked up.

Jezus...
xxracerxx
Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
(01-20-2014, 08:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chobel

Oh man!


This is fucked up.

Shady

as

FUCK.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
(01-20-2014, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by jaypah

So many fuck ups, so little time. It's like they refuse to acknowledge how the real world works, from every angle. They act like fucking aliens! "Oh so this idea it is no good?" Like, wtf MS?

I'm actually prepared to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt here and think it's a Machinima fuck-up, they are relatively inexperienced in the media business and may not realize the mistake they have made here is.

Hopefully someone reports this to the FTC so they can investigate and make a ruling.

(I tried, but as a non-US resident they really were not interested)
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Uno Venova
(01-20-2014, 08:38 PM)
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when you think about it, all microsoft is doing is trying to make the internet a better place by encouraging others to spread positivity.

Chobel
I shouldn't make bets because every time I do my tag gets worse
(01-20-2014, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Osiris

I'm actually prepared to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt here and think it's a Machinima fuck-up, they are relatively inexperienced in the media business and may not realize the mistake they have made here is.

Hopefully someone reports this to the FTC so they can investigate and make a ruling.

(I tried, but as a non-US resident they really we're not interested)

We need to see other assignments to know whether it's MS fault or Machinima fault.
fastford58
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(01-20-2014, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chobel

Oh man!


This is fucked up.

Ok, come on now. This is messed up.
jschreier
(01-20-2014, 08:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Osiris

So, Jschreier, how about that article now. :P

Can you wait ~15 minutes?
bishoptl
Long Live The Chief
(01-20-2014, 08:48 PM)
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Well this is some news.
anexanhume
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(01-20-2014, 08:48 PM)
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Everyone in this thread is clearly paid by Sony to act outraged.
kasane
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(01-20-2014, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

Can you wait ~15 minutes?

yes
Kikarian
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(01-20-2014, 08:49 PM)
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I hope everyone turns on them in the videos :lol
shinobi602
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(01-20-2014, 08:49 PM)
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atomsk
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(01-20-2014, 08:50 PM)
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I wondered where the fuck my reply went... and now it's a new thread.

:lol
Bad_Boy
time to take my meds
(01-20-2014, 08:50 PM)
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A new low has been reached.

*waiting for the couch defenders who sound like marketing majors.
Purkake4
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(01-20-2014, 08:50 PM)
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So now everyone can try the money hat on for size. I'm ok with that.
kuroneko0509
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(01-20-2014, 08:50 PM)
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This is sick :lol
Gorillaz
sober as a drunk judge
(01-20-2014, 08:51 PM)
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gen just started a few months ago and it's already getting good
SnakeEyes
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(01-20-2014, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

Can you wait ~15 minutes?

OH YES! Are you allowed to post links to your own articles?! :D
alr1ght
bish gets all the credit :)
(01-20-2014, 08:51 PM)
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linked from the ars article. don't tase me bro.
http://pastebin.com/vec6vjv5

XBOX ONE RELEASE VIDEO CAMPAIGN AGREEMENT
As of today’s date, You (hereinafter “You” or “your”), have agreed to work with Machinima, Inc. (“Machinima”) to promote the Xbox One Gaming Console (“Xbox One Release”) on your main channel on YouTube.com ("Your YouTube Channel") in accordance with the terms and conditions set forth in this agreement (the “Agreement”).
1. PROMOTIONAL CAMPAIGN PERIOD AND ELIGIBILITY.
Machinima’s promotional campaign of Xbox One Release (the “Campaign”) shall commence on January 13, 2014 at 12:00am PT and end on February 9, 2014 at 11:59pm PT (the “Campaign Period”). The Campaign is open only to Machinima Channel Affiliates, who are thirteen (13) years of age or older (Machinima Channel Affiliates who are thirteen (13) to seventeen (17) years of age at the time of signature of this Agreement must receive written permission from his or her parent or legal guardian in accordance with the terms herein prior to participating in this Campaign). A “Machinima Channel Affiliate” is a person or entity that has signed and valid Machinima Channel Affiliate/Partner Agreement (“Affiliate Agreement”), incorporated herein by reference, which includes Your YouTube Channel within the Machinima network and such Machinima Channel Affiliate is neither in breach nor default under such Affiliate Agreement.
2. PROMOTIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
Machinima shall consider You active in this Campaign upon Machinima’s receipt and approval of this Agreement by You by clicking the box as indicated and if You are 13 – 17 years of age, upon receipt and acceptance of You and Your parent’s or legal guardian’s signature must also be included below.
Your role within the Campaign is focused on driving awareness for Xbox One Release, which includes the release of the video games available for the Xbox One Console (the “Games”).
3. DUTIES.
(I) Your specific duties shall be to promote the Xbox One Release, as described below.
(II) You shall perform the following “Promotional Requirements” during the Campaign Term:
a) Campaign Videos: Create at least one (1) or as many video(s) as You desire, with minimum running time of sixty (:60) seconds, in which You provide commentary about Xbox One Release and Games (each a “Campaign Video”). The Campaign Videos shall be uploaded and viewable on Your YouTube Channel, and nowhere else, during the Campaign Period. The Campaign Video shall include:
- You Campaign Video is “Tagged” with the following tag “XB1M13” (“Campaign Tag”). The Campaign Tag must not be modified in any way and Campaign Videos that do not incorporate the “XB1M13” tag in their tag section will not be eligible for the Compensation (as defined below) under this Agreement.
b) Campaign Video Guidelines: As part of the Campaign Videos, You must comply with the following guidelines for this Campaign:
1. Do not post any Campaign Videos until January 13 at 12:00am PT;
2. You may not say anything negative or disparaging about Machinima, Xbox One or any of its Games in your Campaign Video;
3. You must feature at least thirty seconds (:30) of gameplay/footage of any Xbox One game within the first 2 minutes of Campaign Video
4. You must verbally mention that you are playing the game shown on the Xbox One console.
5. Campaign Video(s) must annotate to the Xbox One YouTube channel www.youtube.com/xbox, or another Campaign Video on Your YouTube Channel that is part of this Campaign;
6. Do not use third-party music or third party content in your Campaign Video, that You don’t own the rights to such music or content or have not be properly licensed by You
7. Do not use excessive inappropriate language or profanity in your Campaign Video;
8. Each Campaign Video must have a minimum running time of at least sixty (:60) seconds in length; and
9. Your Campaign Videos must comply with the YouTube Community Guidelines located at http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines; and
10. If You are 13 – 17 years of age, You must upload a copy of this Agreement signed by You and Your parent or legal guardian along with each Campaign Video in order to participate in the Campaign.
4. COMPENSATION.
As compensation for the promotion that You are providing, You shall be paid the consideration of One U.S. Dollar ($3.00) CPM (“CPM Compensation”) for every valid View (as the terms View” is defined in your existing Affiliate Agreement with Machinima, including all the terms thereof, are incorporated herein by reference) of each Campaign Video that complies with the Promotional Requirements set forth above, subject to the “Campaign Cap” (as defined below). “CPM” means cost per thousand views of Campaign Video on Your YouTube Channel, other than views generated by Action Fraud (as defined below). You will be paid within 45 days after the close of the Campaign Period upon Machinima receipt of a signed W-9 or W-8BEN form, if requested. You agree to be paid as an independent contractor and You agree to be solely responsible for payment of any income, sales or use tax(es) or other payment(s), which may become due to any state or federal authority. You acknowledge and agree that Machinima has the right to offset any amounts owed to You under this Agreement against any amounts owed by You to Machinima under any other agreement, including but not limited to Your Affiliate Agreement.
The budgetary Views “cap” for the entire Campaign is 1,250,000 Views among all U.S. and international participants in the Campaign (the “Campaign Cap”). Machinima will notify You via e-mail if and when the Campaign Cap is reach, and at that point the Campaign will be terminated as of the date of such notification (“Early Termination Date”), and You will not receive the CPM Compensation for Views received for your Campaign Video(s) beyond such Early Termination Date; however You will continue to receive your standard payment under your Affiliate Agreement. However, if the Campaign Cap is not reached during the Campaign Period, then the Campaign will automatically end on the final date of the Campaign Period (i.e., February 9, 2014 at 11:59pm PT).
5. CONFIDENTIALITY
You agree to keep confidential at all times all matters relating to this Agreement, including, without limitation, the Promotional Requirements, and the CPM Compensation, listed above. You understand that You may not post a copy of this Agreement or any terms thereof online or share them with any third party (other than a legal or financial representative). You agree that You have read the Nondisclosure Agreement (attached hereto and marked as Exhibit “A”) and You understand and agree to all of terms of the Nondisclosure Agreement, which is incorporated as part of this Agreement.
6. DISCLAIMERS.
If You fail to perform any of the Campaign elements outlined earlier in a timely and professional manner or breach any obligation or requirement of this Agreement, Machinima may terminate this Agreement, at any time and in Machinima’s sole discretion, and allocate any remaining budget to other partners.
If Machinima suspects or determines that You are driving Views as the result of Action Fraud, and/or fail to make Campaign Videos in compliance with this Agreement, Machinima can immediately terminate this Agreement, in its sole discretion and You will be barred from participation in future campaigns. “Action Fraud” means so-called "click fraud" or "impression fraud,” or fraud of any other kind, whether in any automated or human way, including, without limitation, by the use of a person, an automated script or a computer program (for example, online robots or "bots") to click or otherwise activate any form of View, response mechanism, annotation or advertising unit, or any other fraudulent means, to increase Views, impressions, skew results or imitate a legitimate user of a web or mobile browser or other software application for viewing on any device, for example, by clicking on an ad unit for the purpose of generating an improper click value and generating revenue.
You acknowledge that Machinima shall have to sole right and authority to review each Campaign Video that You make for this Campaign for quality control and compliance with the terms hereof and Machinima has the authority, in its sole discretion, to take down such Campaign Video(s) from Your YouTube Channel or require You to edit any Campaign Video which has content that is not in compliance with this Agreement.
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fastford58
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(01-20-2014, 08:51 PM)
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This story is gaining traction on the webs. I found several non-MS sponsored sites picking it up.

Even if it is not directly reported to the FTC, someone there may take notice.
pixlexic
Banned
(01-20-2014, 08:51 PM)
pretty sure they pay for commercials and product placement deals as well just like sony and every other company in the world.

what makes this any different?
SolidSnakex
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(01-20-2014, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kikarian

I hope everyone turns on them in the videos :lol

Don't count on it. Someone posted the Machinima twitter account that posted this in the other thread and those commented on it seemed hyped about getting paid. Machinima was advertising it as the "easiest/best promo we've ever done!". Of course the CM that posted it deleted that tweet.
Speedy Blue Dude
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(01-20-2014, 08:51 PM)
I don't see the problem with this. All Microsoft is doing is paying and supporting the content creators supporting them. If other content creators who aren't fond of the Xbox Brand, decide to jump aboard and sell out on their personal beliefs for money, that's their fault and Microsoft's gain.

Just like any business contract, which this is, by the way, you aren't legally allowed to discuss the terms, conditions, or what you receive from it, so whatever.

The "you can't be negative about the Xbox One and it must be relevant" part also makes sense, why would the support you trashing their product? Besides, it's necessary. You already saw some posts on GAF discuss loopholes and ways to get money from Microsoft without doing anything. "Put it at the end of a totally unrelated video! Make a video discussing this bullshit and make money since it's about the Xbox One! Tall badly about the Xbox One and tag the video so you get paid!"

Can't blame Microsoft.

As a content creator and YouTuber myself, my channel is already practically a Xbox only channel (thanks Sony for making it so hard and BS to capture PS3 footage! And thanks even more for not allowing PS4 footage at all!), so I'm just getting paid for doing what I already do, I don't see the negative. Microsoft is just supporting those supporting them.

Originally Posted by upJTboogie

when you think about it, all microsoft is doing is trying to make the internet a better place by encouraging others to spread positivity.

I know you're being sarcastic, and the hidden tag is hilarious, but seriously I sort of agree.
MercuryLS
Banned
(01-20-2014, 08:52 PM)
Scummy company with lots of money is scummy. News at 11.
Quadraphonic
XBONE Detective
(01-20-2014, 08:52 PM)
I am 100% sure that's an FTC violation.

http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press...ure-guidelines
jabuseika
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(01-20-2014, 08:52 PM)
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Definition of Payola.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
(01-20-2014, 08:52 PM)
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I can't stop laughing. Microsoft is just that quintessential "doesn't get it" rich dad right now.

DAD. STOP DAD. GEEZ. NO. You're embarrassing me.
Team Vernia
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(01-20-2014, 08:52 PM)
Is the pastebin document legit?
Owzers
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(01-20-2014, 08:52 PM)
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So is this what Major Nelson was referring to when he said online hate needs to stop?
Talamius
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(01-20-2014, 08:52 PM)
It was only a matter of time. With reviews losing some of their influence and let's plays gaining traction, this was going to happen eventually.

Doesn't make it any less sleazy.
fastford58
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Originally Posted by pixlexic

pretty sure they pay for commercials and product placement deals as well just like sony and every other company in the world.

what makes this any different?

Have you read up at all on this issue?
chadskin
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(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
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It's war, bitches!
chubigans
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(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
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Hello fellow influencers! Have you heard the good word about Xbox One today?
KINGofCRA5H
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(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
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Wow. Just, wow.
SuperSonic1305
(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
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Oh wow.
McDougles
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(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
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Clash saw what was coming.
brianmcdoogle
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(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
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And this is why Youtubers are awful and the gaming equivalent of mommy bloggers. They either A: give you what you want or B: get paid to say certain things or give certain coverage, and all without any transparency or disclosure.

I never understood why so many people follow these people in the first place.
Tsundere
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(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
So we're supposed to read into this right ars?
Recall
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(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
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Gaming is just all lies

LIES
The Grim Heaper
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(01-20-2014, 08:53 PM)
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I want to be surprised but I'm sure it happens more than we think in the world. Doesn't make it any less gross, though.

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