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dmr87
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(01-23-2014, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by BruiserBear

My favorite thing about this news is going to be Polygon being forced to give the XB1 version a lower score.

Much potential here.
fade_
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(01-23-2014, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tagyhag

It's Tressfx 2.0, less demanding but less impressive. The hair isn't crazy at least, as seen from the Twitch video.

That makes sense, I'm curious to what kind of AA technique they are using too.
Begaria
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(01-23-2014, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Speedy Blue Dude

Meh. Don't really care myself. Still buying this on my Xbox One over my PS4, just for the slightly better Voice Commands and the Achievements.

*digs into wallet*

Here you go.

Atilac
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(01-23-2014, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Phire Phox

Another Dev not putting effort in the Xbox One version? Color me surprised..... :/

You can only do so much with a fixed gimped frame buffer
alr1ght
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(01-23-2014, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by TrojanBlade

Go PS4..... So is $60 justified for PS4 now? ;)

I am impressed by the PS4 being so close to PC and even matching the framerate

Not if you've played it before. $60 is still ridiculous, but they can gouge like that while there isn't a ton of games to play.
Gooch: The Destroyer
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(01-23-2014, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Quote

... did someone just hack into your GAF account?

Maybe he had a moment of clarity?
Cubed
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(01-23-2014, 04:55 AM)
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I'm very excited for this news. At first it was simply because this game looked pretty good and I'm just glad it's now 60fps, but the bigger story:

I'm glad developers aren't gimping the PS4 version of multiplats due to some rumored "parity clause" by Microsoft.
jayu26
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(01-23-2014, 04:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by dreamer3kx

PS4 master race.

I would like to kill this before it becomes a thing. I want to be part of PS4 club soon and I don't find it flattering when I'm equated to Nazis. It is bad enough that PC master race is a thing.
LiquidMetal14
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(01-23-2014, 04:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by illmatic22

How could this have happened? Xbox One was beta tested in the future!

Comments like these are the ones that get a sharp smirk and snort laugh out of me. Others, not so much.
EL CUCO
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(01-23-2014, 04:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by illmatic22

How could this have happened? Xbox One was beta tested in the future!

Back to the future!
TTSupra
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(01-23-2014, 04:55 AM)

Originally Posted by scitek

An unlocked frame rate that moves between 30 and 60fps is worse than a locked 30. Yuck.

http://youtu.be/PGNiXGX2nLU
Colonel Nasty
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(01-23-2014, 04:55 AM)
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I own both and buy most multiplatform for X1. That being said if I did buy this game again it would be for PS4 but not for 60$.
ButchCat
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(01-23-2014, 04:55 AM)
I don't see the point of 60fps for a game like this tbh.
kitschbeam
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(01-23-2014, 04:55 AM)
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Man if this turn out to be true, X1 need to prepare for another rage shitstorm. That's a huge gap
Speedy Blue Dude
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(01-23-2014, 04:56 AM)

Originally Posted by Chobel

Voice Commands and the Achievements > framerates??! Seriously?

I've already played the game once, and I'm rebuying it mostly for the fun of it and to boost my gamerscore a bit more, since I failed to do so with the Xbox 360. If I was as invested into PSN's Trophy as I was with Gamerscore, I would definitely buy it on PS4 instead.

Also, by Voice Commands I mean more than the in-games "Fire", etc. I mean being able to just come home and switch to this whenever I get bored of Battlefield 4/Peggle 2, and be able to snap Netflix and catch up on some shows while I mindlessly replay this for the Achievements. (bolded this because this is my main reason)

Framerate is important to me, definitely more important resolution, but since I've already played this game, I care a little bit less.

Originally Posted by TheRealTalker

the exact same producer said it was a misquote and a false conclusion on Gamradar's Twitch stream

Heh. Either way, he was never wrong. Both versions do run at 30 frames... minimum. PS4 just gets double the performance.
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(01-23-2014, 04:56 AM)
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Same game. Less graphics. One owners will survive.
BronsonLee
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(01-23-2014, 04:56 AM)
SPEEDY STAHP
Amir0x
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Originally Posted by ButchCat

I don't see the point of 60fps for a game like this tbh.

yeah a huge improvement in framerate which impacts gameplay and visuals is just pretty silly to even consider

they should throw in more explosions instead*


*no improvement in framerate can fix Tomb Raider tho ;)
Soi-Fong
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(01-23-2014, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gooch: The Destroyer

Maybe he had a moment of clarity?

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic with me.
Vidpixel
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(01-23-2014, 04:56 AM)
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The weird marketing for this game continues I see. Next week is going to be very interesting once reviews and impressions of both final versions start rolling out.
Jea Song
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(01-23-2014, 04:57 AM)
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And. here. We. Go.

seriously though im glad the developers are actually taking advantage of the ps4's extra horse power.
Griss
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(01-23-2014, 04:57 AM)
I'm very surprised... that people are surprised. The reason '8 gigs GDDR5 lolz!' became a meme was because based on the leaks and rumours we had at the time that RAM increase put the PS4 miles ahead in terms of performance when added to their better GPU.

Everything after we confirmed the specs was just damage control. Before we knew anything we all assumed that the two machines would come in roughly equal, but once we knew what was in them it was clear that they just aren't. Nothing has changed, nothing WILL change. Before they even launched we could guess that we were going to see differences like this all generation. That's exactly what happened at launch, it's happening now, and it will obviously happen in the future. It's gonna be old news in a year. Feels like old news already.

The question is whether the mass market will care. Your average Joe will NOT be able to tell the difference - I learned that when comparing BF4 on XB1 and PS4 with some Canadian friends this Christmas. They couldn't see any differences at all. But if a mass media perception arises that the XB1 has the gimped version of all multiplats then in time that could affect sales as the knowledge spreads to even your most mainstream consumer.

We'll see how it goes.

(Also, I would still totally play the game at 30fps. Just sayin')
gundamkyoukai
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(01-23-2014, 04:57 AM)
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Well that is rather interesting .
Takao
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(01-23-2014, 04:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by ButchCat

I don't see the point of 60fps for a game like this tbh.

yeah a cinematic game like this deserves a cinematic frame rate
GHG
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(01-23-2014, 04:57 AM)
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If this is true I may well double dip and get the ps4 version (already own it on PC).

That is, as long as the IQ is decent.
LunaticHigh
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Originally Posted by Speedy Blue Dude

Didn't the Executive Producer for Tomb Raider, Scot Amos, recently confirm it was 1080p, 30 frames on both consoles?



Source

Well... guess this is STILL running at 30 FPS on both. :P So he wouldn't exactly be lying! That powergap, lol.

Meh. Don't really care myself. Still buying this on my Xbox One over my PS4, just for the slightly better Voice Commands and the Achievements.

This post is quite an achievement.
prwxv3
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(01-23-2014, 04:57 AM)
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The reactions from gies are hilarious.
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(01-23-2014, 04:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by jayu26

I would like to kill this before it becomes a thing. I want to be part of PS4 club soon and I don't find it flattering when I'm equated to Nazis. It is bad enough that PC master race is a thing.

I second this. That PC master race shit was never even meant as an honorific, and has always been in shit taste. It was old and done with a long time ago and needs to be let fucking go. Please.

Originally Posted by scitek

An unlocked frame rate that moves between 30 and 60fps is worse than a locked 30. Yuck.

It worked out very well for God of War 3 and not so well with Killzone Shadowfall.
enanogrande
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(01-23-2014, 04:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by BronsonLee

SPEEDY STAHP

Quoted for truth. This thread is moving too fast for me, and even THEN I can see this.
sn00zer
(01-23-2014, 04:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Soi-Fong

He already stated he was misquoted.

Scott Amos (Executive Producer) also confirmed it here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767 @50:35

Enjoy your inferior version.

I stand corrected....*quietly puts tinfoil hat away in the closet*....I still think though there was some shady shit with the 1080p on AC4 and COD:G
FinKL
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(01-23-2014, 04:58 AM)
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Wait, so the 360 version has the same resolution and FPS as the Xbox One version?
goldenpp72
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(01-23-2014, 04:58 AM)
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I didn't know the Ps4 was twice as powerful :o
gigantor21
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Originally Posted by ButchCat

I don't see the point of 60fps for a game like this tbh.

Yes, how could an action game with lots of gunplay possibly benefit from having a fast framerate? Next you'll tell me it makes a big difference in fighting games too!

-_-
Tabular
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(01-23-2014, 04:58 AM)

Originally Posted by EatChildren


On average:
PlayStation 4 = 60 fps
Xbox One = 30 fps

Didn't Digital Foundry try to prove (with mathemagics) how it would be impossible for PS4 to get double the frame rates as Xbox One? And here we are... Double the average frame rate.
DevelopmentArrested
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(01-23-2014, 04:58 AM)
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Lol arthur gies is mad that the ps4 framerate isnt locked
BruiserBear
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Originally Posted by Amir0x

What really pisses me off about these comments is Penello asked if the community would apologize to him if the framerate difference is not more than a few single digits, and yet he has not had the self-respect to come here and apologize to us when the difference is demonstrably massively larger in a myriad of multiplatform titles

can't tell you how much this whole shit this year has soured me on the whole brand

Thanks for the reminder. I feel dumb that I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt early on. He was a pure, unadulterated PR spin machine for a couple of months leading up to launch. Sent only for the purpose of misleading and deceiving.
Kazuma Kiryu
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(01-23-2014, 04:58 AM)
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Here's the quote from the guy, from today.

Uh, no, I mean, you're seeing it right here. So, there definitely, you know, one of the things that people had asked, they had heard various quotes, actually heard some misquotes, our goal from the beginning was always to be 1080p gameplay at 30 fps minimum. So some people have taken that and misconstrued like "oh, it's locked to 30", actually, no, it's literally, the game was always from the beginning, our absolute requirement was gameplay at 1080p and minimum 30 fps and anything past that was gravy. That's the kind of game we are, the kind of world we are and as you're sitting here looking at it, like we said on the PS4, this is running at 60.

Gaz_RB
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)

Originally Posted by prwxv3

The reactions from gies are hilarious.

wait, where are they?
RyudBoy
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)
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I called it in the other thread that the XB1 version would be able to hit around the 45fps mark. Nice job with the PS4 version though, I'll probably end up getting it when I finally get the system, and the game will be cheap by then.

The way I see it, both versions were locked at 30fps up until recently when all the backlash came about the game being the "definitive" version and only being 30fps. Devs were obviously worried about sales being affected so they went ahead and unlocked the frame rate at the cost of having it fluctuate. I'm glad they unlocked it since judder doesn't bother me, I'm used to that with my underpowered PC.

I hope people will stop complaining now, though.
NastyBook
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)

Originally Posted by jayu26

I would like to kill this before it becomes a thing. I want to be part of PS4 club soon and I don't find it flattering when I'm equated to Nazis. It is bad enough that PC master race is a thing.

All of that, and it'll get a thread off topic quick.
Gooch: The Destroyer
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)
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Pinello " We are not giving up a 30% power gap to sony" no its prob more.

Major nelson - "I cannot wait for the truth to come out"
Reg
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)
This is like a Bayonetta situation???
Iacobellis
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by Speedy Blue Dude

I've already played the game once, and I'm rebuying it mostly for the fun of it and to boost my gamerscore a bit more, since I failed to do so with the Xbox 360. If I was as invested into PSN's Trophy as I was with Gamerscore, I would definitely buy it on PS4 instead.

Also, by Voice Commands I mean more than the in-games "Fire", etc. I mean being able to just come home and switch to this whenever I get bored of Battlefield 4/Peggle 2, and be able to snap Netflix and catch up on some shows while I mindlessly replay this for the Achievements. (bolded this because this is my main reason)

Framerate is important to me, definitely more important resolution, but since I've already played this game, I care a little bit less.



Heh. Either way, he was never wrong. Both versions do run at 30 frames... minimum. PS4 just gets double the performance.

Shut the fuck up with your hopeless spin.
Skeff
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by jordan0386

Same game. Less graphics. One owners will survive.

Yes, but they could have survived with twice the fps and $100 in their pocket.
Timu
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Originally Posted by FinKL

Wait, so the 360 version has the same resolution and FPS as the Xbox One version?

360 version isn't at 1080p.O_o
Kinyou
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Originally Posted by Takao

yeah a cinematic game like this deserves a cinematic frame rate

Well imagine what graphics it could have if it was 30 fps. It's always a tough call
Team Vernia
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)
I can't say I'm shocked at this news. I think this will all depend on the lead platform for each game. Below are the scenarios I imagine will happen in the future.

Games that are targeting 1080p 30fps on XB1 will be 1080p 60fps on PS4 (TR).

Games that are targeting 1080p 60fps on PS4 will be 720p 60fps on XB1 (CoD).

Games that are targeting 1080p 30fps on PS4 will be 900p 30fps on XB1 (ACIV).

Games targeting 1080p 30fps on both consoles will have less special effects on the XB1 version (NFS).

I'm curious to see if this holds up.
OneUh8
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(01-23-2014, 04:59 AM)
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Lol @ xbone. I really hope this trend does not
continue for Microsoft's sake.
Kriken
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(01-23-2014, 05:00 AM)
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So... what incentive is left to get the XB1 version at $60?
KingFire
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(01-23-2014, 05:00 AM)
lazy devs confirmed?

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