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Bundy
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(01-31-2014, 03:33 PM)
New thread-worthy / Thanks "De-mon" :-)

Originally Posted by De-mon

Update.

181.000 units in Spain, 205.000 soon (new stock).
PS4/Xbox One ratio is 5:1, 15:1 the second week of december.
2.7 millions PS3 in Spain.

chadskin
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(01-31-2014, 03:35 PM)
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So XB1 is around 40K units? That's rough.
bigbaldwolf86
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(01-31-2014, 03:35 PM)
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15:1 in the second week? Holy shit
Triggerhappytel
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(01-31-2014, 03:35 PM)
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EDIT - never mind, I'm talking nonsense.
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Guymelef
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(01-31-2014, 03:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

Old.

No, this thread are updated numbers.
New numbers = new thread.
suedester
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(01-31-2014, 03:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

Old.

No, these are new more recent numbers.
Canis lupus
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(01-31-2014, 03:38 PM)
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5:1 to the Bone
cardinalmind
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(01-31-2014, 03:38 PM)
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And Spain remains as a Sonyland territory. Now, the Invizimals launch there makes sense to me.
FourMyle
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(01-31-2014, 03:39 PM)
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XBO demand fell off a cliff
Jack cw
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(01-31-2014, 03:39 PM)
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Impressive numbers for Spain. I'm still amazed that a country where the target demographic has a 50% rate of unemployment, pull such numbers. Should be more or less the same in mainland EU by now.
Símon
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(01-31-2014, 03:42 PM)
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He also says that he thinks PS4 would have sold 250,000 units if the supply was there.
Cornbread78
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(01-31-2014, 03:43 PM)
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Very nice, but the snack convo in the other thread was so enthralling, lol


Amazing spread though.
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KillerMan91
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(01-31-2014, 03:44 PM)
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As long as PS4 and Xbone are pretty much neck and neck in US PS4 is going to destroy Xbone worldwide.
DangerousDave
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(01-31-2014, 03:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jack cw

Impressive numbers for Spain. I'm still amazed that a country where the target demographic has a 50% rate of unemployment, pull such numbers. Should be more or less the same in mainland EU by now.

It has a 50% rate of young unemployment. The overal rate of unemployment is 25%. There is also a lot of underground economy, so people still have to queue at Apple Store when a new iPhone is launched, there is plenty of people on malls, etc.
Bundy
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(01-31-2014, 03:52 PM)

Originally Posted by FourMyle

XBO demand fell off a cliff

Spain is Xbox's New Zealand?
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Burning Vigor Attack
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(01-31-2014, 03:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by DangerousDave

It has a 50% rate of young unemployment. The overal rate of unemployment is 25%. There is also a lot of underground economy, so people still have to queue at Apple Store when a new iPhone is launched, there is plenty of people on malls, etc.

Yeah, I bet they are the same people.
Jack cw
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(01-31-2014, 03:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by DangerousDave

It has a 50% rate of young unemployment. The overal rate of unemployment is 25%. There is also a lot of underground economy, so people still have to queue at Apple Store when a new iPhone is launched, there is plenty of people on malls, etc.

Well, overall are also people who are not really into gaming, so the regular male from 18-40 is in that 75% of employment and might be the one who can afford an apple device too. Regardless of this, Spanish people seem to be confident and spend their money on consoles as it seems. <3 Spain.
Beysus
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(01-31-2014, 03:58 PM)
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15:1 is crazy

Especially when you consider Ps4's supply issues. The X1 demand seems to be abysmally low.
Sho_Nuff82
(01-31-2014, 03:59 PM)
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See the wonders of Kinect as a differentiating experience MS?

You see what happens?

nib95
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(01-31-2014, 04:00 PM)
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15:1...what.
fastford58
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(01-31-2014, 04:12 PM)
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Someone fly oocanookyia, ookann...whatever the hell his name is, to take pictures of the Xone mountains in retail.
Xater
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(01-31-2014, 04:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Símon

He also says that he thinks PS4 would have sold 250,000 units if the supply was there.

That's the story of pretty much every EU country at this point. It could sell more if the supply was there.
Kimppis
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(01-31-2014, 04:14 PM)
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Okay, 15:1 is pretty crazy, but is anyone really surprised? Xbox fans got their system at launch, which means that the gap will just widen, everywhere. This is just the beginning. And there's nothing MS can do. It's the return of the king. Xbone's price is higher, the hardware is weaker and the brand almost worthless vs. PlayStation outside the US... not to mention shitty entertainment/TV/sports options outside 'murica.

EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if we see PS2 vs. OG Xbox situation outside the US (and maybe the UK)... or even worse. Atleast OG Xbox was a BEAST, with clearly better online service.
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bud23
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(01-31-2014, 04:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jack cw

Impressive numbers for Spain. I'm still amazed that a country where the target demographic has a 50% rate of unemployment, pull such numbers. Should be more or less the same in mainland EU by now.

The unemployment rate it┤s terrible, that┤s true, but reality is different. When people talk about the current economic situation in Spain, they tend to ignore how big the country's black economy is. You would be amazed to know how deep the rabbit hole goes. Things are not as bad as they seem.

And yes, PS4/One ratio is abysmal. Welcome to Sony-land.
DBT85
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(01-31-2014, 04:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Xater

That's the story of pretty much every EU country at this point. It could sell more if the supply was there.

Not just EU. Pretty much every country, except New Zealand where they are making PS4 Forts from the unsold stock.
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(01-31-2014, 04:19 PM)
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dark_prinny
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(01-31-2014, 04:21 PM)
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I did my part :)
deadpixel
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(01-31-2014, 04:24 PM)
Wow, I thought their economic situation was dire as they never really recovered after the global recession.
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(01-31-2014, 04:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by deadpixel

Wow, I thought their economic situation was dire as they never really recovered after the global recession.

It is dire, but there are a lot of people in Spain and there is always someone willing to spend money for entertainment.
ec0ec0
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(01-31-2014, 04:29 PM)
I knew it, you knew it: THE PS2 IS BACK.

(In the future, i may be the only person in spain without one... thats what happened with the ps2)

15-1 jaja thats funny.
KillerMan91
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(01-31-2014, 04:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by SolarPowered

It is dire, but there are a lot of people in Spain and there is always someone willing to spend money for entertainment.

No to mention that at least to my knowledge entertainment doesn't really suffer that much during recessions. People want to forget their real life shit at least for a short moments.
Barkley's Justice
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(01-31-2014, 04:29 PM)
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(soon 4.00.000.000)
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(01-31-2014, 04:33 PM)
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US:
PS4: 2 million
Xbox One:1,817,000

UK:
PS4: 530,000
Xbox One: 364,000

Spain:
PS4:181,000 *updated*
Xbox One:35,000

France:
PS4:240k
Xbox One:126k

AU:
Xbox One:65,917*first 3 days*

Germany:
PS4: 250K
Xbox One: 100K

Portugal
PS4:21k
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kmax
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(01-31-2014, 04:34 PM)
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Europe is going to be a tough nut to crack for MS this gen. They need to build a strong relationship with their European market, much like Sony have been doing for years.

Tiering countries, introducing a weaker and a more expensive console than the favorite, and including an unnecessary camera isn't really going to entice the majority, especially in Europe.
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Nebur
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(01-31-2014, 04:35 PM)
I'm Spanish, I have a PS4 and 5 friends also buy it day one, 0 XBONE.

PS4 6 - 0 XBONE

Dr. Kitty Muffins
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(01-31-2014, 04:41 PM)
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Microsoft is going to have to get some exclusives that Europeans are willing to shell out big money to play. That is all there is to it.
Xater
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(01-31-2014, 04:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Kitty Muffins

Microsoft is going to have to get some exclusives that Europeans are willing to shell out big money to play. That is all there is to it.

I don#t think any exclusive will swing this for mainland Europe. Nothing did last gen.
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(01-31-2014, 04:44 PM)
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So this is as of January 31st correct?
DieH@rd
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(01-31-2014, 04:46 PM)
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When will Sony report their calendar 2013 Q4 results?
flkraven
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(01-31-2014, 04:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Guymelef

No, this thread are updated numbers.
New numbers = new thread.

I guess it just feels old, since now there is a new thread for the PS4 moving 50,000 units. If there was a new one for every 50K, well...

Great lead over XB1 though.
PaulLFC
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(01-31-2014, 05:00 PM)
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15 to 1?



Seriously though, very, very impressive.
Hydrargyrus
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(01-31-2014, 05:02 PM)
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15:1


Glad of my country!!!
RalchAC
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(01-31-2014, 05:03 PM)
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For what I've seen, there is plenty of PS4 stock here (Alicante, 350.000 habitants). The Christmas sales were rather good, but I think they have slowed quite a bit during January. I've went to Media Market, GAME and Carrefour and I've found PS4s in all of them. X1 too, obviously. There is stock in Amazon.es too, Gamestop.es and Game.es

I haven't seen a single add in the last few weeks. Maybe they'll start spending money on marketing once Infamous is released and sales will improve in March. But people's wallets are probably exausted right now. January is always a bad month and economy doesn't help. Those new 20.000 consoles will probably last for some time.
Acidote
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(01-31-2014, 05:05 PM)
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I told you guys in several threads that this time it was going to be even more brutal than last gen and that a 5:1 ratio was easily coming. That 15:1 ratio is scary though.

One thing to consider is that Sony is fucking up the stock somehow with chain stores, as there is stock of PS4 in lots of places while in my zone it has been sold out since launch.
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(01-31-2014, 05:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hydrargyrus

15:1


Glad of my country!!!

Siempre se te ha visto el plumero, pero ya ni te cortas.

We're a poor country, of course people will choose the cheaper option :P
SwiftDeath
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(01-31-2014, 05:14 PM)
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Pretty great numbers for Spain right?
Hydrargyrus
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(01-31-2014, 05:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by SuperĐ

Siempre se te ha visto el plumero, pero ya ni te cortas.

We're a poor country, of course people will choose the cheaper option :P

Me alegra que te moleste
Alchemist
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(01-31-2014, 05:20 PM)
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Remember when a few of the Xbox loyalists were saying the FIFA pack-in would help Microsoft gain market share in Europe?

Crazy how much XBO has been pushed here in comparison to the PS4 and the sales aren't even close.
mocolostrocolos
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(01-31-2014, 05:22 PM)
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Heh, Sonyland is Sonyland..

I also bought one.
Raytow
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(01-31-2014, 05:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Alchemist

Remember when a few of the Xbox loyalists were saying the FIFA pack-in would help Microsoft gain market share in Europe?

Crazy how much XBO has been pushed here in comparison to the PS4 and the sales aren't even close.

I keep seeing XBO ads in La Liga matches, they are sure working Microsoft...

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