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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean

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DrForester

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juicyfruitas said:
There's unofficial reports that the plane landed safely in Southern China (due to electronic malfunctions). could be bogus but hoping its true:

http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.html
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I've been hearing the same on a few pilot forums, but I can't seem to track down the source origin. Hope it's true, but apparently China reports never picking the flight up on their radar and the rumored landing city is well into the country, not a boarder town.
 
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ezrarh

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Slayer-33 said:
The catastrophic accidents are what really scare me when it comes to planes crashing. People are misunderstanding me here. I'm not a big fan something failing mechanically if I happen to be on a flight..

Also I'm in NYC, I rationalize that most accidents are low speed and fairly survivable inside a big city because of lower inner city speeds. I'm not on a highway often..

It's a given that there's a shit ton more cars on the roads every day crashing vs planes crashing. But can you really blame someone for having more fear of a situation in the sky that you really don't have any control of if a catastrophic event occurs?
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No, I understand your fear of a catastrophic plane crash. It makes sense why people have a fear of planes despite the statistics. I was just trying to say that most plane crashes don't actually end with passenger deaths.
 
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jmdajr

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Last I read chances of dying in a car crash in your life is 1/500.
Of that how many people didn't have Vin Diesel reflexes...not sure
Vtech don't always kick in
 
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Pandemic

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juicyfruitas said:
There's unofficial reports that the plane landed safely in Southern China (due to electronic malfunctions). could be bogus but hoping its true:

http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.html
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That sounds pretty genuine.. Not sure how reliable that website is.

It would be difficult to land at an airport though, without any communications, such as avoiding other planes, ensuring the runway is clear, etc. It doesn't sound possible..
 
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flak57

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Konka said:
Would be great news.



Really dude? You want to make this argument? I hope you're just being obtuse.
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Yes. Show me that on a given flight I am less likely to be in a fatal collision than in an unavoidable fatal car crash on a drive. It's a trick question of course because it's impossible to grab any sort of statistics for unavoidable car crashes, which is sort of the point.
 
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Zen_Arcade

Banned
terrisus said:
If no one was debating that, there wouldn't be an issue.

Can we get everyone to admit that planes are statistically safer than cars?
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You are giving far too much of a shit about proving strangers on the internet wrong. Especially in a thread about a plane full of lost people.
 
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KINGofCRA5H

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What could possibly cause the planes radio/transponder to cease functioning?

Pandemic said:
It would be difficult to land at an airport though, without any communications, such as avoiding other planes, ensuring the runway is clear, etc. It doesn't sound possible..
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:((((((((
 
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Konka

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flak57 said:
Yes. Show me that on a given flight I am less likely to be in a fatal collision than in an unavoidable fatal car crash on a drive. It's a trick question of course because it's impossible to grab any sort of statistics for unavoidable car crashes, which is sort of the point.
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Do you also want me to show you that the earth is round and that water is necessary for life? I'll start doing all my in depth research for you.
 
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luxarific

Nork unification denier
KINGofCRA5H said:
So the last radio contact was when they were over land? Man, they could be any where by now :(
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Apparently the last signal was from over water. :(

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/442119500209455104/photo/1

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terrisus

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Zen_Arcade said:
You are giving far too much of a shit about proving strangers on the internet wrong. Especially in a thread about a plane full of lost people.
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Or maybe I'm just concerned with people making use of safer means of travel, and not being dissuaded from it due to false information.

Yes, what may have happened to these people is horrible. Just as it is horrible when every single day numerous people die in car crashes.
 
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criesofthepast

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Pandemic said:
That sounds pretty genuine.. Not sure how reliable that website is.

It would be difficult to land at an airport though, without any communications, such as avoiding other planes, ensuring the runway is clear, etc. It doesn't sound possible..
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Seems like a fairly popular website in Malaysia. Hoping the news is true.
 
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MThanded

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flak57 said:
Yes. Show me that on a given flight I am less likely to be in a fatal collision than in an unavoidable fatal car crash on a drive. It's a trick question of course because it's impossible to grab any sort of statistics for unavoidable car crashes, which is sort of the point.
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The statistics straw man. This is impressive.

Find me "statistic X for scenario A B C betcha can't"

pls flak57

The only stat you need is the rate of death. If you want to avoid that stat and make up a scenario for an uncollected stat then it seems that you are trying to imply that lack of evidence means that something is false. That's not how statistics or science works.

I'll give a rest.

I hope this plane landed safely.
 
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Zen_Arcade

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terrisus said:
Or maybe I'm just concerned with people making use of safer means of travel, and not being dissuaded from it due to false information.

Yes, what may have happened to these people is horrible. Just as it is horrible when every single day numerous people die in car crashes.
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You should make a thread about it, this isn't the place for it.
 
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terrisus

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flak57 said:
So you have nothing then.

Edit: Shit not looking good
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Here you go

1 in 11 million
Chance that you will be killed in an airplane crash.

1 in 5,000
Odds that you will be killed in a car crash. "You're much more likely to die getting to the airport than you are flying in the plane," said the editors at Discovery.
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Zen_Arcade said:
You should make a thread about it, this isn't the place for it.
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I was responding to people who made the claims in this thread.
 
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Konka

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flak57 said:
So you have nothing then.
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Let me see you data.

Here's what I have.

In the last five years, the death risk for passengers in the United States has been one in 45 million flights, according to Arnold Barnett, a professor of statistics at M.I.T. In other words, flying has become so reliable that a traveler could fly every day for an average of 123,000 years before being in a fatal crash, he said
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/b...lines-globally-since-1945.html?pagewanted=all

Car accidents 44,757 deaths per year 1 in 84 chance of dying over the course of your life.
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http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/31/how-scared-should-we-be/
 
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flak57

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MThanded said:
The statistics straw man. This is impressive.

Find me "statistic X for scenario A B C betcha can't"

pls flak57
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The whole basis for the original comment I responded to (or so I assumed) was what I thought were faulty statistics.

Edit: The statistics above are exactly what I was decrying.

And to below me yeah, got to slow myself
 
GungHo

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flak57 said:
Yes. Show me that on a given flight I am less likely to be in a fatal collision than in an unavoidable fatal car crash on a drive. It's a trick question of course because it's impossible to grab any sort of statistics for unavoidable car crashes, which is sort of the point.
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Dude, you're shitting up the thread. There are people with genuine interest in this subject who may have people who may be on that flight. You're not a JM. You can make your own stats thread.
 
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PK_man

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man why the fuck is there a debate about plane vs cars going on???

a plane full of passengers is missing and you feel the need to talk about plane vs cars???
 
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muu

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With regards to drivers I'd be more cautious of overly confident ones. Overconfidence often leads to complacency, complacency leads to dangerous actions "that's fine because I'm a good driver," and given the right circumstances that kind of behaviour is what ultimately lead to near-misses or collisions.

On-topic, hope everyone on the flight is OK. I had a fear of flight at one point in life -- dunno what I was thinking, but for some reason in my head I assumed like 40% of the flights just 'dont make it.' Felt real fucking lucky as a kid flying overseas and back due to parents' situations.
 
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Pandemic

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Zen_Arcade

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terrisus said:
Here you go





I was responding to people who made the claims in this thread.
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I'm aware. For all you know they're trolling you and trying to get you to derail the thread at this point. Either way, it's pretty disrespectful and pointless to argue about these statistics in a thread about a plane full of lost people.

This thread is now more about statistics then it is about what's actually happening with the plane and people inside.
 
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terrisus

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Zen_Arcade said:
I'm aware. For all you know they're trolling you and trying to get you to derail the thread at this point. Either way, it's pretty disrespectful and pointless to argue about these statistics in a thread about a plane full of lost people.

This thread is now more about statistics then it is about what's actually happening with the plane and people inside.
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Fair enough, the point has been made countless times over. If anyone desires to discuss it further, they can make a thread for it. I've said my part here.

Hopefully everyone is alright.
 
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Ollie Pooch

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WoodenLung said:
How the fuck did this thread turn into a discussion about if you're able to avoid bad drivers or not... Jesus.



Hmm, hope it's true. It would be a very weird thing to make up.
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Seems unnecessarily cruel for them to report it when it's unconfirmed. Would give false hope to relatives etc. Not cool.
 
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GreatestHits

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Zen_Arcade said:
I'm aware. For all you know they're trolling you and trying to get you to derail the thread at this point. Either way, it's pretty disrespectful and pointless to argue about these statistics in a thread about a plane full of lost people.

This thread is now more about statistics then it is about what's actually happening with the plane and people inside.
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People are so out of touch and so comfortable in their little bubbles.

Unfortunately, they're all dead and it's either going to be confirmed or not confirmed. Very very sad
 
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Zen_Arcade

Banned
terrisus said:
Fair enough, the point has been made countless times over. If anyone desires to discuss it further, they can make a thread for it. I've said my part here.

Hopefully everyone is alright.
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Thanks for being understanding man. Hopefully I didn't come off as rude in any of my posts.
 
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Konka

Banned
Zen_Arcade said:
I'm aware. For all you know they're trolling you and trying to get you to derail the thread at this point. Either way, it's pretty disrespectful and pointless to argue about these statistics in a thread about a plane full of lost people.

This thread is now more about statistics then it is about what's actually happening with the plane and people inside.
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Well the other option at this point is just a bunch of people saying RIP or praying for survival this point. We don't really have enough information at this point to discuss anything other than a plane is missing. I'd say discussing stats is better than speculation until we hear something more concrete.
 
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