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DMC3 SE
so much style and swag. this game is classic Classic
so much style and swag. this game is classic Classic
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DMC3:SE or Ninja Gaiden Black?
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Wolf Akela
Member
This, and how things were nerfed because of OTF switching.
- Shotgun: JC shots got nerfed hard by not being as quickly JCable as before. Lacks "oomph".
- Gauntlets: Slower although JF charges were really nice. The Killer Bee move doesn't aim anymore (why?).
- Trickster: Slightly clunkier with a bit of delay/lag after Air Trick. No multidash. Can't bunnyhop as fast. No wall run.
- Royalguard: Clunkier, takes WAY WAY too long to charge, doesn't feel as satisfying. Removed roll JGs.
- Darkslayer: Hahaha what a joke. One spammable move and a finisher.
- General: Removed Crazy Combos, Free Ride, Wild Stomp, Roundhouse Kick, etc
Swordmaster and Gunslinger were still okay though.
Wake me up when they mod DMC3 to have OTF style switch.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Steak and Porkchops would have made more sense to use for an example
Steak and Porkchops would have made more sense to use for an example
I don't like those equally.
AudioTechnica
Neo Member
They're both great games but where NGB is a science DMC3 is an art.
I find playing ninja gaiden to be a bit mechanical and reactionary - if they do A I'll counter with B etc.
When you get to good at DMC3, I mean really good, you can just dominate the enemies, really just humiliate them, using royal guards, trickster teleports, just frame timestops, taunts - whatever you want. The combat system allows you to use your imagination in a way that hasn't been matched yet.
I find playing ninja gaiden to be a bit mechanical and reactionary - if they do A I'll counter with B etc.
When you get to good at DMC3, I mean really good, you can just dominate the enemies, really just humiliate them, using royal guards, trickster teleports, just frame timestops, taunts - whatever you want. The combat system allows you to use your imagination in a way that hasn't been matched yet.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
DMC3 only because i played it more.
NobleGundam
Banned
Once You Go Ninja Gaiden Black You Never Go Back...
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
People will still be arguing this for another 10, 15 years down the road.
UltraGunner
Banned
Both are damn good, but if forced to pick I'd say DMC 3 because of the level of complexity of the combat system.
Resident4t.
Member
Ninja Gaiden Black, no question.
after all these years, all I can say is they perfectly compliment each other.
black is about surviving with speedy finesse
DMC3 SE is about surviving with combo finesse
both games are about more than just getting in a playthrough on normal and calling it done. they both push you to master the tools you're given and it's a completely different set for each game.
If I had a gun to my head, I'd go with NGB.
black is about surviving with speedy finesse
DMC3 SE is about surviving with combo finesse
both games are about more than just getting in a playthrough on normal and calling it done. they both push you to master the tools you're given and it's a completely different set for each game.
If I had a gun to my head, I'd go with NGB.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Dmc easy
I love both. but i dont think they are directly comparable.
DMC 3 has vastly superior combat but its more flashy which awards you points for getting good combos.
Black on the other hand is more tactical. Its focuses more on blocking and timming than sheer number of combo.
In the end i definitely prefer DMC3 and i died more in DMC 3 than in black. the first mini boss outside dantes home has killed me like 20 times.
EDIT: Boyonetta doesn't even comes close to these 2 games for me
DMC 3 has vastly superior combat but its more flashy which awards you points for getting good combos.
Black on the other hand is more tactical. Its focuses more on blocking and timming than sheer number of combo.
In the end i definitely prefer DMC3 and i died more in DMC 3 than in black. the first mini boss outside dantes home has killed me like 20 times.
EDIT: Boyonetta doesn't even comes close to these 2 games for me
Most of the stuff listed here aren't issues, more like balance changes. Yea moves removed was a bad thing but stuff like RG charging slower is not an issue because RG was OP in DMC3. As is stuff like roll JG.
CouchMaster
Member
NG Black for me.
roll->jump->roll->jump->flying swallow all day long
roll->jump->roll->jump->flying swallow all day long
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I love both games, but NG:B has the superior combat.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
I've only played the original versions of both games and I'd say DMC 3 by a mile.
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Black Mantis
Member
NGB. The combat in that game still hasn't been bettered imo.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
DMC3 SE
You people are CRAZY.
Ninja Gaiden is so much more fluid and has superior level design in every way. It's almost a mature Zelda in terms of interlocking world building.
That and the better bosses absolutely push it over DMC3 to be the best action game of all time.
Ninja Gaiden Black. I much prefer the level design style; it has a few shitty parts but I regard a lot of the level design in DMC3 as pretty flawed (outside the first game I don't think DMC has ever really found the right level design balance between gimmicks, exploration and straight combat) and the interconnected nature and adventure elements are better. I also prefer the combat, which both has more enemy variety and is always fast and deadly; on DMD DMC3 becomes more about not making mistakes against damage sponges, whereas even on Master Ninja NGB's combat is lightning fast and full of pressure without losing variety outside of a few rare enemies.
DMC3 is a masterpiece too (because I seemed to have kind of shit on it above) but I always preferred NG.
DMC3 is a masterpiece too (because I seemed to have kind of shit on it above) but I always preferred NG.
Poofynamanama
Banned
what's so hard to understand? it's all about preferences. dmc was ALWAYS about the combat for me, not level design. i've always preferred the 100% offensive in dmc to the more defensive style in ng, but that doesn't mean I don't like ng. like another poster stated, they complement each other perfectly.
also dmc3 has some of funniest, craziest cutscenes ever in a video game
DarknessTear
Banned
You know, this was a thread way back and it was full of drama if I recall correctly. Personally, I prefer NGB! It is pretty much the greatest action game of all time. It's a shame that Itagaki had to bail out.