[TheJollyCorner]

thanks to Ceb

First "solid" FFXIII details? According to RESET, their Japanese sources claim that FFXIII "revolves around the number 13, and everything that it symbolizes". As mentioned before, Production Studio 1 (Division 1- run by FFVI/VII/VIII/X's Yoshinori Kitase) is working on it, with rumors abound of an unveiling somewhere around E3 2006.

E3 '06, or 'around' E3, seems kind of early for an unveiling, but then again, FFX was first shown at the Square Millenium Conference (along with FFIX and XI) in Jan. 2000... 3 months (?) before PS2's Japanese launch. Unfortunately, after that initial gameplay demo (Tidus with brown hair ), the game went on almost a full year media-blackout until after FFIX launched in almost every territory.
Personally, I'd be very surprised if Square-Enix shows anything significant prior to FFXII being released in the US and Europe, but you never know. This is a very different company than the one in 2000.

Knowing how much of a 'symbolic/thematic' whore Kitase is, I'm very interested if this "13" idea is real. I can't even begin to think how many things the number really represents, besides bad luck. :)

A FFXIII showing at E3 would be massive for PS3 at such an important time. Maybe, just maybe, FFXIII in '07 (along with MGS4 and possibly GTA4, not to mention Halo3 for 360)? That would be massive, echoing 2001.

[brandonh83]

Hopefully it'll come out on a Friday, lolololol

No really, that's a pretty cool idea. I'm INTRIGUED~~~

[TheJollyCorner]

Nomura version of Jason Vorhees? I can't even begin to imagine...

[Solid]

As mentioned before, Production Studio 1 (Division 1- run by FFVI/VII/VIII/X's Yoshinori Kitase) is working on it

Praise the lord!

[VictimOfGrief]

Now if they could only make a FF game better than FFVII.

[TheJollyCorner]

Now if they could only make a FF game better than FFVII.

badda-bing! That didn't take very long.

[Zilch]

Praise the lord!

Why would you say such a thing.

[Shard]

So basically we should b e seeing Final FGantasy XIII sometime in 2011.

[Bebpo]

Sounds about right. Square has always been known to head off the new generation with a FF trailer/tech demo that blows away everyone and give a glimpse of the true-next generation evolvement of rpgs...but then the game doesn't come out until 2-3 years later ^^;

[Mr_Furious]

FFXIII news before FFXII releases? Hmmm, I don't think so.

[Solid]

Why would you say such a thing.

Because kitase IMO is the best director when it comes to RPGs. I dont want another FF12 debacle where someone who cant handle the pressure is in charge of everything. I've loved Kitase's games so this is great news.

[TheJollyCorner]

Why would you say such a thing.

Because Division 1 has their shit together? Because Division 1 is proficient in their production schedules? Because Division 1 is headed by the guy that prevented the series from falling into stagnant obscurity post-16bit era (hint: it wasn't Sakaguchi)? How many more reasons do you need?

Oh yeah... I forgot... you are an 'old school' FF fan, Zilch. ;)

[Bebpo]

FFXIII news before FFXII releases? Hmmm, I don't think so.

FFXII is releasing in March. There's no reason why they can't have a teaser trailer right after it at E3 in May.

[Link]

FFXIII news before FFXII releases? Hmmm, I don't think so.

You don't follow FF unveilings much, do you?

[Himuro]

badda-bing! That didn't take very long.

[soundwave05]

For the love of gawd I hope they change the character designs and design motifs.

FFX, FFX-2, and FFXII just "bleed" together too much with the whole 90210-ish characters and the "tropical" colors thing. Ugh.

[TheJollyCorner]

FFXIII news before FFXII releases? Hmmm, I don't think so.

FFX footage and FFXI concept designs before FFIX is released?

Yeah, it happened 6 months before FFIX was released in Japan.

[trmas]

The big question everyone will want to know at E3 - will it still be PS3 exclusive?

[Himuro]

Hopefully.

[Bebpo]

Because Division 1 has their shit together? Because Division 1 is proficient in their production schedules? Because Division 1 is headed by the guy that prevented the series from falling into stagnant obscurity post-16bit era (hint: it wasn't Sakaguchi)? How many more reasons do you need?

Exactly. I love Matsuno's work, but Kitase is an excellent director when it comes to traditional rpgs. FFX did everything an FF should considering the technology restrainments (no overworld map). If FFXIII is as big of leap as FFX was from VII-IX, it should be mind-blowing once again.

[TheJollyCorner]

The big question everyone will want to know at E3 - will it still be PS3 exclusive?

The magic 8-ball points to "YES".

[Link]

The big question everyone will want to know at E3 - will it still be PS3 exclusive?

Undoubtedly. The 360 is DOA in Japan and the Rev's design won't lend itself well to a port.

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Undoubtedly. The 360 is DOA in Japan and the Rev's design won't lend itself well to a port.

Bullseye.

[Himuro]

Exactly. I love Matsuno's work, but Kitase is an excellent director when it comes to traditional rpgs. FFX did everything an FF should considering the technology restrainments (no overworld map). If FFXIII is as big of leap as FFX was from VII-IX, it should be mind-blowing once again.

Yep. Kitase is an excellent director. The dude knows how to make well done stuff. Kitase > Sakaguchi

[duckroll]

First "solid" FFXIII details? According to RESET, their Japanese sources claim that FFXIII "revolves around the number 13, and everything that it symbolizes". As mentioned before, Production Studio 1 (Division 1- run by FFVI/VII/VIII/X's Yoshinori Kitase) is working on it, with rumors abound of an unveiling somewhere around E3 2006.

OMG! Nomura to reuse XIII Organization characters in FFXIII! Maybe even the entire backstory! FFXIII will be KH2 prequel!! US AM FUCKED TOTAL ALL!

[TheJollyCorner]

considering the non-Disney aspects are the parts I'm most interested in w/ KH2, I don't think I'll feel screwed if this happens.

[Himuro]

considering the non-Disney aspects are the parts I'm most interested in w/ KH2, I don't think I'll feel screwed if this happens.

Check your pm box in a couple minutes you bitch.

I just hope they keep some of the improvements Matusno's doing to FF...like that supposedly huge open world?

[TheJollyCorner]

Check your pm box in a couple minutes you bitch.

It better be those duck-mage pr0n pics I asked about two weeks ago.

I just hope they keep some of the improvements Matusno's doing to FF...like that supposedly huge open world?

I imagine the open world will be standard from here on out. With FFX they probably didn't have the time or the knowledge of PS2's architecture to pull it off completely- it seemed like, from the Millenium Conference demo, they were headed in that direction (anyone remember the map screen you could pull up- and being able to log onto PlayOnline on the fly and download tips/maps/etc?). Not to mention FFX's plot was organized to flow along a linear path. It was a pilgrimage, afterall. :)

[Himuro]

It better be those duck-mage pr0n pics I asked about two weeks ago.

??? Shit, hook a brother up, I don't know what you're talking about!

Hopefully the don't put the random battle back in either...Personally what I'm hoping for is an evolution of the FFX-2 battle system but in an open enviroment with multiplayer capabilities. Holy fuck.

[jarrod]

Undoubtedly. The 360 is DOA in Japan and the Rev's design won't lend itself well to a port.

Except that these days, Final Fantasy sells better outside Japan than in it... I wouldn't rule out a 360 SKU just yet.

[Borys]

Well they got the engine already.

/watches FF7-PS3-tech-demoHQ.mov for the 999999th time

[Doom_Bringer]

Sounds good! Bring it on!

But yeah Wada said they would make a decision if they want to make FF multiplatform or not at E3 2006. But it would rock if they showed a trailer too!

[TheJollyCorner]

Sounds good! Bring it on! But yeah Wada said they would make a decision if they want to make FF multiplatform or not at E3 2006. But it would rock if they showed a trailer too!

again, technically FF already is multi-platform (FFXI).

[Doom_Bringer]

again, technically FF already is multi-platform (FFXI).

I was talking about the main series. I really hope it stays exclusive to a single platform (PS3 :P) because multiplatforms games suck, it would be terrible for the series.

[duckroll]

Except that these days, Final Fantasy sells better outside Japan than in it... I wouldn't rule out a 360 SKU just yet.

It doesn't sell THAT much better (read: 3x) that they can outrule Japanese sales completely. Final Fantasy games are multi-million sellers in every region, but the Xbox360 is NEVER going to be a multi-million userbase machine in Japan. That alone rules out any 360 non-spinoff, non-MMORPG FF game. Forever. Face it, Square Enix isn't going to waste their time on a console which is a laughing stock in their own country.

[Doom_Bringer]

It doesn't sell THAT much better (read: 3x) that they can outrule Japanese sales completely. Final Fantasy games are multi-million sellers in every region, but the Xbox360 is NEVER going to be a multi-million userbase machine in Japan. That alone rules out any 360 non-spinoff, non-MMORPG FF game. Forever. Face it, Square Enix isn't going to waste their time on a console which is a laughing stock in their own country.

sounds right. X360 is going to bomb in Japan no matter what MS does, not even Lost Odyssey or Blue Dragon can save it.

[jarrod]

again, technically FF already is multi-platform (FFXI).

Actually, most of the FF games have migrated to different platforms...

Final Fantasy
-Famicom
-MSX
-WonderSwan Color
-PlayStation
-Game Boy Advance
-mobile

Final Fantasy II
-Famicom
-WonderSwan Color
-PlayStation
-Game Boy Advance
-mobile

Final Fantasy III
-Famicom
-Nintendo DS

Final Fantasy IV
-Super Famicom
-PlayStation
-WonderSwan Color
-Game Boy Advance

Final Fantasy V
-Super Famicom
-PlayStation
-Game Boy Advance

Final Fantasy VI
-Super Famicom
-PlayStation
-Game Boy Advance

Final Fantasy VII
-PlayStation
-PC

Final Fantasy VIII
-PlayStation
-PC

Final Fantasy XI
-PlayStation 2
-PC
-Xbox 360

[Red Blaster]

Actually, most of the FF games have migrated to different platforms...

Usually months or even years after the original game has been released though.

[jarrod]

It doesn't sell THAT much better (read: 3x) that they can outrule Japanese sales completely. Final Fantasy games are multi-million sellers in every region, but the Xbox360 is NEVER going to be a multi-million userbase machine in Japan. That alone rules out any 360 non-spinoff, non-MMORPG FF game. Forever. Face it, Square Enix isn't going to waste their time on a console which is a laughing stock in their own country.

I dunno, FFX moved about 5 million outside Japan (compared to 2.5 million inside). I still think there's enough merit for a multiplatform release, though it could just as easily remain on PS3 exclusively.

KH could easily move to multiple machines too I think... DQ seems like the only biggie to definitely remain exclsuive, thanks to it's inability to reach a wide foreign market.

[MassiveAttack]

If this is shown in ANY form at PS Festival in February the earth will truly be torn asunder... with Peter Moore on his knees. :)

[Link]

Except that these days, Final Fantasy sells better outside Japan than in it... I wouldn't rule out a 360 SKU just yet.

To be honest, I don't see the 360's Western userbase making the game a million seller anyway.

[duckroll]

Usually months or even years after the original game has been released though.

For some of them it's actually decades!

But I love jarrod lists, sometimes they're accurate as hell, sometimes they're inaccurate as hell, sometimes they're irrelevant as hell but they're ALWAYS stupid as hell!

[SantaC]

Now if they could only make a FF game better than FFVIII.

fixed

[Panic_Attack]

Now if they could only make a FF game better than FFVI.

Fixed.

[SantaC]

I was talking about the main series. I really hope it stays exclusive to a single platform (PS3 :P) because multiplatforms games suck, it would be terrible for the series.

all FF games in the mainseries are now multiplatform except for FF9, FF10 and FF10-2 :P

[TheJollyCorner]

why didn't FFIX ever get a PC release, btw?

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

jarrod, what about funds?

ToS sold more only in Japan than everywhere else combined. But you think there is one 'tales of' coming for Xbox360.

So....why can't MS pay S-E for FF too? :)


imo, no one of those rpg franchises are going to xbox360...

[Bebpo]

all FF games in the mainseries are now multiplatform except for FF9, FF10 and FF10-2 :P

GBA6 is by all means free to have FFXIII in 12 years :P

[SantaC]

why didn't FFIX ever get a PC release, btw?

Good question. It was first announced I think that it would come to PC, but then it never happend.

[jarrod]

jarrod, what about funds? ToS sold more only in Japan than everywhere else combined. But you think there is one 'tales of' coming for Xbox360. So....why can't MS pay S-E for FF too? :)

Well, that could happen too... but at this point I don't think either MS or Sony are interested in a bidding war for Final Fantasy. Sony's ensured them anyway and MS is getting a better deal out of MistWalker.

imo, no one of those rpg franchises are going to xbox360...

Final Fantasy already is technically. :P