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Android Wear |OT| 2nd Gen is Here
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Orbis Tabula
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I want to wait for the second Gen. But, if no one buys them, there won't be a second gen. 
I want to wait for the second Gen. But, if no one buys them, there won't be a second gen.
LG G Watch R is already second gen, as far as I'm concerned.
I want to wait for the second Gen. But, if no one buys them, there won't be a second gen.
All we need is:
- Apple's product to push the industry forward
- Google to release a Nexus Watch.
With those two you will see how these OEMs get their heads out of their asses and actual build really nice wearables.
Victory Red
Member
Its gorgeous.... but its thick as fuck and 12hr battery is unacceptable.
Winterblink
Member
Something tells me the battery life is something that can at least be partially addressable by a software update. Wear 2.0 is coming, and lately Goog's been making solid strides at eliminating battery usage issues on my Nexus 5 by updates to Google Play Services.
Orbis Tabula
Member
True. I mean, I'm all on board for the G Watch R provided the battery life is there. So I guess it's not all doom and gloom.
Watches designed by electronics companies are not going to be successful but, if developed jointly with a watchmaker like Cartier, Jaeger LeCoultre, Rolex, IWC, or others, it would have a chance. It would not surprise me if that's the route Apple takes. Even a Suunto smartwatch would be considerably more desirable than what we've seen so far.
Frustrated_me
Member
Ugh. That battery info is a killer. I was so hyped for this product, now that it's here I'm kinda underwhelmed. The wait was so frustrating.
I'm waiting to see what Apple announces. If their wearable is better (looks and functionality) I'm jumping ship back to Apple hardware (phone and wearable).
I'm waiting to see what Apple announces. If their wearable is better (looks and functionality) I'm jumping ship back to Apple hardware (phone and wearable).
OriginalThinking
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Wearing my G Watch now
P.I.M.P
Winterblink
Member
"Even"? Suunto watches are amazing. I've been debating getting one for a couple of years now but can never seem to settle on a model to take the jump with.
I'd take a Moto 360 for 250-300 over the same watch with a fancy high class watch maker logo for 1000 any day of the week.
I'll probably replace my Tag Heuer with a 360 since I only wear my watch at work or when I go out so battery life is not an issue for me personally.
Vyse The Legend
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The 360 went from day -1 to probably never.
Given its size, you think they would've fit a bigger battery.
However, I suspect the very old and very battery inefficient OMAP 45nm processor is the main culprit here. If you're going to use a small battery, you need a more efficient processor.
Given its size, you think they would've fit a bigger battery.
However, I suspect the very old and very battery inefficient OMAP 45nm processor is the main culprit here. If you're going to use a small battery, you need a more efficient processor.
Pretty embarrassing if they're still using that old of an soc.
Vyse The Legend
Member
They are.
Anandtech confirmed it. It's basically the shitty processor that was in the Galaxy Nexus almost 3 years ago.
They probably thought the watch didn't need good raw processing power (they're right), but didn't realize/care that new chips also bring tons of power efficiency.
It was also probably DIRT FUCKING cheap to buy this processor in bulk.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8493/motorola-launches-the-moto-360-hands-on-and-first-impressions
Snarfington
Member
I had the intention of using my G Watch until the 360 came out and snapping that up, but the news of it potentially having worse battery life than what I've got now is ridiculous. As far as I'm concerned if that's true in real world use then it's dead to me. And between the news of Wear supporting GPS soon, wwhich isn't in any announced watch yet, and the G Watch R coming so soon after my buy, making me hesitant to get that, I guess I'm sticking with ol' squarey until someone can make a round unit with better battery and GPS. Shame.
Nightengale
Member
360's battery life being shite was such a disappointment.
Device is so sexy.
Device is so sexy.
well, cheaper competitors are using S400 though... and have bigger battery.
Partially it is probably Android Wear's fault,but that does not matter... not sure why would anyone get watch that lasts 10hrs.
Oh, you are going to get some beers after work? Watch is already dead.
Plus while wireless/contact charging is a good idea in general, if battery life is so poor for all of those watches, then better freaking make it possible to charge from anywhere.... I am not going to carry the cradle to the office.
http://youtu.be/clrSF5yqgVU?list=UU60o55QG_Yabb1nelfSGO0w
Presentation wise, I think Moto knocked it out of the park. But man, that Galaxy Nexus chip....jeesh.
Presentation wise, I think Moto knocked it out of the park. But man, that Galaxy Nexus chip....jeesh.
Vyse The Legend
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We all did, but it seems it was just hiding the much larger processor. 45nm has a much bigger footprint.
Those cheaper competitors are also using garbage, cheap build materials. Motorola clearly made a trade off here: leather, steel and a nonstandard circular display probably all add significantly more cost to the build of materials.
So, they went cheap with the processor to shave off the price tag, but it was a bad idea.
If they had went premium across the board, the price might've shifted closer to $300 but at least it would've been worth considering.
As is, the battery makes the 360 an instant, easy no-buy.
Orbis Tabula
Member
Wearing my G Watch now
How do you like the G Watch? Does anyone know what sort of changes we can expect from it to the G Watch R?
Ah screw it. I ordered it from Bestbuy. Let's see once my order is updated whether I get it soon or it is also backordered. I had to google for the bestbuy page for the moto360.
Jzero
Member
I dont see ZenWatch having cheaper materials at all... it has bigger battery, S400, metal build with leather strap bundled, curved AMOLED display. Gonna be $200.
whatever77
Banned
Wearing my G Watch now
This is like the wrist version of the Google TV box, lulz.
Jzero
Member
New Android Wear system update KGW42N is up.
What i've noticed that changed:
* Bigger Notifications: they take up a larger portion of the screen
* Improved alarms: You now have more options when setting alarms like the alarm being a one time thing or an every day thing
* Stable "Change Watch face " screen : changing the watch face is not laggy anymore.
What i've noticed that changed:
* Bigger Notifications: they take up a larger portion of the screen
* Improved alarms: You now have more options when setting alarms like the alarm being a one time thing or an every day thing
* Stable "Change Watch face " screen : changing the watch face is not laggy anymore.
I gotta imagine battery life is heavily impacted by notifications. Perhaps most people will get better mileage compared to the kind of inbox load a tech reviewer has.
Still pretty worrying, though. Maybe we'll see a quick turnaround on a "Moto 720" with a few small tweaks and a more efficient chipset?
Still pretty worrying, though. Maybe we'll see a quick turnaround on a "Moto 720" with a few small tweaks and a more efficient chipset?
Let's not inundate this thread with your hair ass hands.
Until battery density improves significant, it's a size constraint.
also, Isnt Moto 360 display off completely most of the time? Unlike with LG, you have to tap it to get the time shown. Right?
GuitarAtomik
Member
That's good to hear about the battery being better than reported. All I really want is a full day's charge and I'll be happy. Still going to wait and see how LG R turns out though I'm not really a fan of the design.
Marty Chinn
Member
Wait really? That's dumb. I just assumed it was like the LG where the time is always displayed. What good is a watch if you need to tap it to turn it on? I may as well pull out my phone at that point.
If im understanding correctly, it should sense when you look at your watch turning on the display when needed (similar to the moto x - which I have and it works great when using the active display).
Jzero
Member
Motorola seriously has communication issues. It turns out that the Moto 360 is only available on BestBuy.com and it will be available at Best Buy retailers on September 14th and not today. I should have just ordered it last night through the link i posted.
Moto 360 looked so promising too
What sort of improvements are people realistically expecting with the 2nd gen? Better battery life + smaller size?
Yup. If they can get it closer to this in terms of size (which looks doable) with a long lasting battery, I'd be happy. Then you just need developers to support it.
whatever77
Banned
OK google watch brought you by Fossil.
sketchsanchez
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Are you able to control your music app with these? Like play/skip etc?
layzie1989
Member
The interface looks pretty sluggish and choppy. Also, does anyone feel Google's design language clashes with the style of the watch? I'd probably be able to make the battery last long enough, but i's not something I should have to worry about. Other than that the functionality looks great. I think it's a product I would enjoy.
Can't wait to try one out.
Can't wait to try one out.